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A) technological advancement rarely means "look what new thing i can do", but rather "look how small i can make this!". just like Computers have gone from building sized monstrosities to hand calculators with the same power, engines can cram more and more horsepower into smaller...

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What exactly do you all want to see from the Triax , N.G.R. Book II ?? I'd like to see more on the society of the NGR....what are its views on magic and DBs since some parts seem to suggest they hate them, others part suggest more a case of putting the human race first, evn if that means distastefu...

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The Beast wrote:Going off the information that's been released, I'd say the Xitixix.

I'm wondering if theres any word on the Lazlo-Xiticix war which was scheduled to go off circa 104PA 'cos delaying it any longer meant the Xiticix became unstoppable?

EJL

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Lazlo needed to back off on the Xiticix due to the escalation of the Tolkeen conflict. If they had stayed in the area and continued their war against the Bugs during the Tolkeen War then it would be very likely that the CS would spin it so that Lazlo was helping out Tolkeen. Or even worse, the CS w...

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Here's an essay I did for the Palladium FAQ that I've not updated in 4 years (I REALLY need to get around to updating it, but I need to get caught up on all Palladium products first - currently lagging well behind) Neat theory. I prefer the one universe setup myself….. Basically, one timeline in wh...

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I know there are on going debates and side arguments about how the CS could never put up the military forces that it does. Well it can and here are some reasons why, with appropriate references... Not to undo all your work...but RIFTS SB1 has a full accounting of the CS population circa 102PA. It w...

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It wont make sense because Palladium are allergic to making vehicle mounted guns do more than 2d4 x 10 MDC unless it's a Boomgun. Look at the Devestator Mk II in the Rifter, it was written up as being a massive improvement on the old one and it's main guns were supposed to do massive damage, but so...

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Incidentally, before I continue, is there any evidence the Coalition does possess reliable Fusion technology? I won’t look specifically. But SB1 (p14) notes that some rural *homes* are powered by fusion generators. Given that, it is a certainty that the CS has fusion power. Okay, lets allow that th...

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This doesn't answer the question. High automation reduces only the labour costs for production, but in fact this is a bigger problem than before. How do you employ all the people who are now not working in your factories. You make them soldiers.....? Given the fact that the coalition prevents 95% o...

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Not really. The Problem is one of scale and basic economics. The US present technological capability is presaged on international trade. The ability to get oil and petrolium, rubber, uranium, and a whole host of other products from around the world, as well as technical developement promoting econo...

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Well, I did stay up until 3 last night, and woke up at 8:30. Triax 2 is going to be awesome with more world info and some great turns of events, while also having the gear that the gun bunnies want. So long as it makes sense....the CS got a big power boost with WB11, and Triax/NGR is still supposed...

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Chi-Town's effective population is only 2.5 times that of Tolkeen. But what about the rest of the Coalition States? And what about the millions who formed the bulk of the armies…that is, those who actually aren’t CS citizens? And what about Psi Stalkers? etc An army of 1-2 million may be unrealisti...

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No, all logistical problems are eased, first off water, it would make it much easier for them to hide from the enemy, easier to protect themselves (as they wouldn't big in such a massive formation) and they could split up into smaller groups to avoid being swarmed by the Xiticix. True. But...how co...

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Well I'm more than happy to adjust things that don't make sense, I said at the start I was happy to discuss how this could be possible but that requires changing what it says in the books. Reducing the numbers of troops means that 80% of the obvious problems don't seem as impossible. The only probl...

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If you want to make the canon make sense you must at least consider dropping the numbers of troops. To be fair, it always struck me that the 400,000 was possibly a misreading that simply got carried through and that it should have been 40,000...Holmes field army of around 30,000 plus stragglers fro...

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Well it's like trying to say that nobody would have noticed Napoleons army, and by resources I meant the use of resources is what make them obvious. Forraging parties would had to have been massive and constantly moving which makes hiding again very difficult. The trouble is....there was nobody rea...

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Do you have any idea what kind of resources and infrastructure you need for 400 000 people? Well clearly you don't because you wouldn't be saying it ifd you did. You were saying detection was impossible...not that the troops couldnt' have supported themselves. If that's your point, water and shelte...

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There is still no way I can see that an army of such massive proportions can march for any length of time without being spotted by either the enemy, their own army or at least by some passing travelers who would then pass the info on. You mean, after walking through a sparsely populated wilderness,...

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1: Since the RMB Chi-town has used the Burbs as recruiting grounds, mostly for assignment to the Magic Zone. Cite? (I feel sure you have one . . . if only I can persuade you to post it.) SoT2, p11 "Moreover, casualties at Tolkeen were always expected to be relatively high, so half the army is ...

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That also doesn't mean there was anything left. We're both guessing here since the writing lacked details. Going by SoT5, where we're told at least some of the men are working farms, etc it would seem there is something left. It may not be much, it may only be for show...but it remains a real possi...

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The APC's aren't tall enough for them all to stand, you'd have to lie them down on top of each other and not move...sure the armor would hold, but no one can get up, get out...someone's going to get claustrophobia, the men still have to go to the bathroom and you can only pee in your armor so many ...

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It is also logical to assume that the first priority of a loyal CS army general would be to reestablish contact with the CS. If he had some Death's Heads and/or some SAMAS left, they could have gone south and west and swung entirely around Tolkeen and been back to the CS in under a day. Yes, in und...

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The concept of Coalition soldiers working the fields is incredibly laughable. How many infantrymen do you know who were raised on a farm. Personally? Quite a few. In the CS...well, a lot of recruits came from the burbs...who moved there from farms, and outlying towns, villages, etc. I'm not talking...

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Yes. I still disagree with you. And I still believe you weren't reading what I was writing. I actually do read it. That doesn't mean I'm going to respond to everything you write, especially if I don't have my books with me. Your position seems clear enough... Holmes had a force greater than 20. Hol...

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The "Holmes Survived" Crowd can't even sufficiently explain the Xiticix's contradictory actions versus Holms and his Troops, and yet they're trying to explain the logistics of feeding providing water to, and eliminating Waste for 310,000 Troops. Because there doesn't seem to be any contra...

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But human warriors do no such thing. Of course they do. They don’t need to, but there usually has to be a reason for them to do so. Human warriors dash into rooms on fire with flames at 2000 degrees in order to rescue their wounded comrades, suffering terrible burns in the process. Do they dash int...

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So the Tolkeen army didn't need food? Of course they did. They also have mages who can create the stuff. The point is that the area north of Tolkeen, and close to the Duluth hive was inhabited, and abandoned. Yes, the CS attacked there, but that doesn't mean nothing was left. Did they provide all l...

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The infrastructure to support a productive population of 140,000 will not support 300,000 troops for the necessary amount of time to make the story work. Especially if that region has been involved in a war. the available supplies would add a couple weeks, maybe a month at most to their available s...

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Is there anything in this proposed Shemarrian sourcebook about rogue Shemarrians? Ones who have abandoned Archie-3, somehow broke though their programming & become more independent? Just a thought.... Unfortuantely, that's (next to) impossible. At the end of the day, Shemarrians are robots. Wit...

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If the displacement of water by "Atlantis" raised the waters of the entire east coast like the old books says, then its underwater. Otherwise, Florida should be as it is now. Not half of it underwater. RUE ignores the NYC area it seems. What a surprise, not... Unless the land (or parts of...

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In my Old Rifts mainbook, Yeah, it say NYC/Manhatten is underwater and in ruins. I'd have loved it if they had kept the City flooded. Water 1 to two stories high would be great. It would make Treasure Hunting there more of a problem as it should be. Add in things in the water and building...bamm Th...

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Then came the part I absolutly could not accept, that being the supply issue and the fact that the entire army would have been malnourished if not suffering from the effects of starvation within the first two months or at most three if they happened to pack substantial supplies with them in their e...

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my point still stands... Actually it really doesn't, you may have dismissed the entire discussion as "12 pages of bickering about techinicalities " but there are actually some intelligent and interesting points raised that yet have been explained. Even if you ignore the discrepancies abou...

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You're seriously suggesting this?* The cases are: ⋅ Smoke Was Substantially Irritating: This would drive the Xiticix mad with rage. ⋅ Smoke Was Not Irritating: The Xiticix ignored it. (This apparently didn't happen.) ⋅ Smoke Was Just Right: Similar to the Goldilocks fa...

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Tolkeen Forces Holmes North: I won't go too far into this except to say that I find it highly unlikely. A concerted attempt at a break-out in another direction would undoubtedly produced fewer casualties than 25%. Holmes thought otherwise. He may have been wrong. Holmes Orders to the Troops: SoT 5:...

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Waaaaay back about three whole pages ago, Killer Cyborg cited a reference regarding the Xiticix Reaction to "interlopers:" Namely, that said interlopers are destroyed to the last Man, Woman, and Child. Even if they run. Let’s see what WB23 says about it… Against small groups they’ll fight...

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[quote="RainOfSteel”]The text in the book says otherwise, as has been quoted and cited.[/quote] It can’t have…because WB23 says nothing about it. It says that if a Xiticix gets riled, then others close by get aggressive as well. It says that attacking a hive gets the Xiticix riled. That’s it….t...

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Attacking an enemy in the "20 and over" case is not a tactic, is a racially programmed response with a single objective, to destroy the enemy. Any number of tactics might be used, although the typical one is the 2/4-8 swarm tactic. Destroying the enemy, however, is the only option they ha...

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[Thank you for trying to bring logic into the conversation. Doubt it will work. Where's the fun in that? I'm ex-army myself, special forces, and while our rules of engagement, et cetera were a bit different from the norm. I can tell you if some dipstick officer tried to tell us nae to shoot back wh...

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No it doesn't. "20 and over" is the full case. You can add discussions about other possibilities all you like, but that is pure speculation. Given that we "see" them acting in a different manner when faced with 400,000 troops, I'd call it a bit more than speculation. As it is, w...

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What it says is "groups of 20 or more", and no matter how much higher than 20 you get, it's still "more than 20" and would officially elicit the same responce according to XI. Yes, it does. Trouble is, it doesn't say how they fight, or if there aren't any other responses. Knowin...

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People have cited numbers in the low hundreds of thousands. Which is contradictory to what XI says. Maybe. I did a quick search in SoT5 and 6 and I coudln't find any figures. As it is, you're assuming the Xiticix will treat a group of 400,000 the same way they'll treat a group of 20. While WB23 doe...

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-According to XI, Holmes' men would have been attacked at a 2:1 ratio, and they easily would have had the numbers for this. Holmes was attacked. The exact numbers, AFAIK, aren't given. Only that his forces were being slowly picked apart. According to XI, anybody stopping within xiticix territory is...

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Your talking about Xiticix expanding their borders, not a large scale army invading their borders. That's completey different. Yes...so why do people keep bring ing it up by using it as an example of where the Xiticix shoot "unarmed people" thus showing their aggression and tendency to de...

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We're pointing out that the written behavior of Xiticix in XI contradicts their behavior in SoT, and we're pointing out that the lack of food/water would make such a journey impossible. So…what are the contradictions….? Namely…Holmes survived. To do this, the Xiticix attack could not have been mass...

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No that's not what it says, that's what happened in SoT but that's not what Xiticix invasion says. No...that is what XI says. If Xiticix territory expands so it now surrounds an existing settlement, the existign inhbaitants are not attacked en masse. Instead, they are subject to escalting harrassme...

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Killer Cyborg wrote:Garbled to the point of incomprehensibility or not, your response doesn't change the fact that the xiticix are shown to kill fleeing opponents who are not fighting back.

After months of harassment intended to get them to leave.

EJL

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So the CS troops defensively striking back with swats, hits, and whatever aren't considered fighting back? Even when they would be just as effective as a cow fighting back except the cows get slaughtered? That doesn't make sense. Not if they were doing it in self defence. That would be a reaction.....

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Huh? How could an army march without stopping? Surely they must sleep or eat at some stage, in any case they did stop; You move the convoy at a walking pace, and you take turns to drive, ride or walk. And then don't stop for more than two or three minutes at a time. Why would they decide Holmes was...

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Cattle arent smart enough to actively avoid the hive mounds, Holmes would be. There's nothing about them being close to the mounds in the book. Any group of 8+ people or animals are considered a threat. The fact that cattle have been targeted and slaughtered by the bugs shows that running away does...

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