What is Splicers??

[2bent2]

Hello I'm a Rifts player my self and what little i've gleemed of Splicers has peeked my interest, so what is splicers? What is the back story and gist?

thanks

[The Baron of chaos]

Well , is oll good sotry of man vs machines.
Only humankind is forced, yes forced, to realy on Guyver styled bio-technology(cast right form PU2). Is an harsh world without magic or psionic(well for now but who know... .). Oh yes, the setting is roughyl detailed, lot of game mechanics but if you ask what people do apart wearing host armors(but i'm a biotic fan) you'll receive a big "DUH?". Infact as it is now is wondefull board game but let little space for roleplaying in favor for roll playing .Example of this is the apparent uselessness of skills like Gambling, Bartering or Wardrobe and grooming(for who you're goign to improve your look, for the necrobots?) But this is due to the obscenous but needed cutting out from the main book.
For me is a setting wiht POTENTIAL, like a marble block waiting to be sculpted in a masterpiece. But this is on fan's shoulders so far . Sadly most are happy shooting things around.
Redneks....

[Mudang]

Infact as it is now is wondefull board game but let little space for roleplaying in favor for roll playing .Example of this is the apparent uselessness of skills like Gambling, Bartering or Wardrobe and grooming(for who you're goign to improve your look, for the necrobots?)

There are plenty of situations where those skills can be useful. You do realize that houses communicate and deal with each other and also with those living in retro-villages, right?

[The Baron of chaos]

Oh come on i just said what i perceive as naked truth. And again as i said life in retor villages and in great house is so rough that one had the feeling everything let to do is chopping robotic heads. But as i said is a game with GREAT potential. Need some little work , had to be stretched , imrpoved and some edges are to be cut. Much like romantic relationship.
In all and for all perhaps not the best palladium game in absolute(that is or Rifts or HU or perhaps both) but with alittle more setting stuff could be a twin pair wiht Nightbane and Robotech(rbotech got the advantage to have a complex anime to back it off by the way, doing something completely new like Splicer is tad more complicated).
I don't wanted to be mean only give a sincere judgement , balanced with some critcs for an improvement by Fans and Authors.
Remeber guys critic and pointing what's wrong is only way things can become better.

[Mudang]

Oh come on i just said what i perceive as naked truth. And again as i said life in retor villages and in great house is so rough that one had the feeling everything let to do is chopping robotic heads. But as i said is a game with GREAT potential. Need some little work , had to be stretched , imrpoved and some edges are to be cut. Much like romantic relationship.
In all and for all perhaps not the best palladium game in absolute(that is or Rifts or HU or perhaps both) but with alittle more setting stuff could be a twin pair wiht Nightbane and Robotech(rbotech got the advantage to have a complex anime to back it off by the way, doing something completely new like Splicer is tad more complicated).
I don't wanted to be mean only give a sincere judgement , balanced with some critcs for an improvement by Fans and Authors.
Remeber guys critic and pointing what's wrong is only way things can become better.

You were still wrong when you called those skills useless.

Obviously, most of us would like more information on the houses, different retro-villages, and day to day life of average people, but the fact that much of this wasn't described does not hurt the role-playing experience. The game is what you make of it. That you have made it a roll playing game does not mean that it is so for others.

[The Baron of chaos]

I still remain of my opinion. After all he asked about the game as it is nor how it could be or how it could be roleplayed. Hope you dont get offended or took it personally

[Mudang]

I still remain of my opinion. After all he asked about the game as it is nor how it could be or how it could be roleplayed. Hope you dont get offended or took it personally

Game developers need only provide a compelling setting and workable game mechanics (both of which are provided in Splicers). After that, the role playing experience is deteremined entirely by those who play the game.

[The Baron of chaos]

Uhmm I'm sure such things could be, after all i'm basing all my recent posting about this! (non combat aspects of splicer society). But I think you don't wann face the effective problems that the game does have. And every game does have its good dose (D&D depend on settings, D20 system apart, some are good and soem are bad). Hiding the head in the sand and saying "no its perfect" or the variant " ehh but it is on GM shoulder make it work" does not change facts. Of course most of problems of Splcier derive (at least form what we know) from a series of cutting off due lack of space. I once time said this setting would work better as a Dimension book of Rifts rather than a game by itself. There would have been no need to reprint all the basic Palladium system(that by the way did not fit in the book well as in others, at the end like it was addedd last) and saved more space for setting details, conversion notes and so on. I mean ther eis nothing in the book that make one yell "omg this hav eot be a RPG by itself" BUT this is a VERY PERSONAL OPINION, not the bibble, not the authors or kevin's opinion, not your not anyone else , PER-SO-NAL! Mine only! Period.

[JTwig]

I still remain of my opinion. After all he asked about the game as it is nor how it could be or how it could be roleplayed. Hope you dont get offended or took it personally

The same thing could have been said of Rifts, or any other RPG for that matter, before any source books came out. There is a lot of implied interaction between the Houses, and I sure their is a lot of roleplaying oppertunities within each of the Houses. No were does it say that all the humans do is fight robots, eat, fight robots, sleep, and fight some more robots. Their are non-combatants among the Houses, so their must be some sort of society in the enclaves.

[Mudang]

Uhmm I'm sure such things could be, after all i'm basing all my recent posting about this! (non combat aspects of splicer society).

You know what's funny? We know about as much about Rifts society as Splicers society. It's been 17 years since the RMB was first printed, and we still have absolutely no idea what the supposedly major cities in North America are like. We know nothing about Lazlo, or Chi-town. We know nothing about Psyscape despite a whole book supposedly being devoted to it. We know very very little about life of those who live in the City of Brass. We don't know that much about Dweomer either.

But I think you don't wann face the effective problems that the game does have.

The specifics of Splicers society are not described as of yet, but the same could have been said of the RMB. And you know what? I know several Rifts players who play RMB only games because it is so open-ended.

Hiding the head in the sand and saying "no its perfect" or the variant " ehh but it is on GM shoulder make it work" does not change facts.

I don't recall saying that Splicers is perfect, but in the end, no matter what game you are playing, the role-playing experience really is up to the GM and the players.

[The Baron of chaos]

OKOK--shessh I got the feeling that you did not read completely my messages. I said it was just my humble opinion. Obviouly perhaps my mind would change in future when some sourcebook come out.(but of course could happen the opposite and I will be so disappointed to drop Splicer, again). From you reaction seemed I did some serious offence to your family ! Cool down dude! Is just a game!