Troop Transports...

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:53 pm

Yes, but Hitler didn't have the advantage of living in a world super charged with mystical energy where psychcs are both comon and reliable.

shadrak · Unread post by **shadrak** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:38 pm

No...I find Prosek far more palatable.

Magic, in Rifts, is very frustrating...it is so versitile that if you decide not to use it you are hamstringing yourself. I think thats why I always start out Coalition or Tech and eventually make my way back to magic every time.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:07 pm

Some interesting ideas have come up since I last viewed these pages on friday. Keep up the great ideas. I like the ideas of UWW fighting like that! I bet their wars were very nasty!

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:59 pm

Wan't to devastate a city? Open a huge rift to the elemental plane of water in the middle of downtown.

Styx wrote:I'm sailing away . . .

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:24 pm

That would be devastating. I've thought of that sort of thing in the past. It is very nasty. A weapon of last resort.

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:29 am

darkmax wrote:Won't that give the citizens a new attraction? An inland sea? Or a public water park?

Depends how long the rift is open for. You could conceivibly turn Tattooine into Mon Calamari.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:34 pm

Urban war...if the local populace is fanatical, or outraged, enough, once they get over the initial shock of seeing enemy troops in their midst, urban guerilla war becomes a near-certainty...and close quarters can quickly become a nightmare for an army...especially if they have any moral qualms about leveling the area into a parking lot(and if the local fanatics even SUSPECT the invaders have moral qualms).

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:57 pm

Purchase and read Scraypers dimension book, this is precicly the method used by the Tarlok

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:40 am

wolfe wrote:Little problem there, if 2 divisions could "just appear" into the capital you really would want to keep some troops near the capital, the folks your fighting aren't stupid, its not like they should be ignorant of the many possibilities with magic and technology that's out there.
Since this is in an intergalactic playground and you may have badguys landing from orbit anyway, you really, really, would have a moderately sized garrison at the capital anyways.

Yes, but when many of those troops appear inside the base compound, with no warning, isolating the barracks from the armouries / motor pools / hangars / whatever? Hard to fight off a fully armed invader when you have to use the slats you took from your bed.

I agree that some of the powers (Magic using powers and the TGE who had to through off the Splugorth yoke) will attempt to build some sort of defence agaisnt this sort of assault - but I think the non-magic users will find it hard to beleive that a magic using force could shift hundreds of thousands of troops in a few minutes, with no warning to the defender.

Basically, the only early warning system, short of espionage, would b when the mages on te target planet felt the Rifts opening - and then they have only a few minutes (or less) to raise the alarm.

This tactic - which is used only rarely because of the massive PPE and material expense involved - hits too fast and hard with too little warning to mount an effective defence against the initial thrust.

After the initial thrust it becomes a question of how willing the defending commanders are to engage in a batle that will lay waste to their own cities and kill hundreds of htousands (or millions) of their own poplace against a force that allready has captured the political leadership, the military high command, the command centre for the orbital defence system, all the command codes to your ships computers and the commander's wife and kids.

Yes the force placed on the planet can be defeated - but not until it has allready placed itself in a position from which it can do incredible damage.

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:46 am

So dont antagonize the UWW and learn to fear the warlock Marines

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:50 pm

That is very true!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:21 pm

Aramanthus wrote:That is very true!

I'd love to see some more variants on the Warlock Marine armors and heavy gear, though...Maybe soem of the smaller regional armies and militias have TW robots(could you imagine a heavy robot vehicle optimized for tackling vampire intelligences or otehr big beasts?).

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:56 pm

That would be very cool to see! I know a small place on a small blue green world that would love to import some. :-)

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:58 pm

Aramanthus wrote:That would be very cool to see! I know a small place on a small blue green world that would love to import some.

A specific magic kingdom, or your household guard?

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:05 pm

I was thinking about most of those places along the Vampire Kingdom border.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:18 pm

Aramanthus wrote:I was thinking about most of those places along the Vampire Kingdom border.

Hmmm....We need something like 'Voltron' with a storm-summoning waether generator, deluge cannon, Daylight/Sun FLare projectors up the yin-yang, silver plating and blading like nothing seen before...a back-up AI to take over if the crew gets mind-controlled.....
erk...
help....
specs forming...
must finish other ideas first...
workload crushing me....

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:23 pm

LOL