ARCHIE III vs The Republicans

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:49 pm

Yea, its way too early and we know very very little, but hey, when has that stopped us before?

As for me, GO ARCHIE!

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 7:53 pm

My new Sig says it all.

Shades of Eternity · Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:57 pm

unless the book changes my mind drastically, I'm siding with the toaster on this one.

afterall, I kinda want a body like james t had before he got ticked at him :-D

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:24 pm

vampire_hunter_D wrote:hmm, dont' I get a third choice?

No.

Spinachcat · Unread post by **Spinachcat** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:40 pm

I'm with the children of NEMA, true inheritors of North America. I want to see those 30,000 NEMA warriors march across the countryside and drop the hammer on Prosek's boys.

Just say NO to crazy toasters!

burgler81 · Unread post by **burgler81** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:53 pm

I'm with the toaster.

Unread post by **NMI** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:27 pm

Pepsi Jedi wrote:My new Sig says it all.

Shouldn't that be "Save the A.I., Save the World!"

Or "Save the Contrivance, Save the World!"

Josh Sinsapaugh · Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:33 pm

I'm with Archie on this one.

Of course, I am biased.

~ Josh

Unread post by **NMI** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:42 pm

I am a Democrat so I am with ARCHIE

9voltkilowatt · Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:53 pm

For all of Archies grand schemes all he\its ever really done is make money and arm merc's the continent over with advanced weapons and equipment. I say he should fall, if nothing else he\it would be great for sorting d-bee porn on the mega-net.
The Republicans for the win!

Sureshot · Unread post by **Sureshot** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:33 am

My vote is for the Republicans. While Archie-3 has always been one of my favorite Rifts villians he is imo hampered by his insanity not to mention his equal evil and insane Hagan.

While it's still to early to say what is the general disposition of the Republicans I see them being more of a threat as they actually follow through with their plans. Archie on the other hand will change his mind from one moment to the next.

Nxla666 · Unread post by **Nxla666** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:46 am

Umm, why would NEMA troops attack the CS at all?

"Sir the world is overrun with demons and aliens."

"So what, those fellow humans ruling the most powerful nation in N. America are a bunch of Nazi lovers, we'll get them first!"

Yeah I see that happening. :rolleyes:

More like...

"Sir, the worlds overrun with demons, aliens and theres some kind of proto-Nazi government in the Mid-west."

"Well sh*t, we'll set up base here, establish a safe zone from the monsters (as much as possible), and begin establishing our own government. If those guys in Illinois give us any trouble THEN we will deal with them."

Lord_Dalgard · Unread post by **Lord_Dalgard** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:32 am

Chello!

ARCHIE 3, baby!

Ka-chow!

Tony

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:23 am

I gotta get to work on building my empire in california....

Daniel Stoker · Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:32 pm

I'd go with ARCHIE, though my current character is a robot so go figure.

Daniel Stoker

Mech-Viper Prime · Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:28 pm

I got to go with the hometown boys

Archie and Hagan

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 7:42 pm

AS much as I'd love to see the Republicans win, ARCHIE knows more about the world, while the Republicans have royally flubbed their exercises at social engineering....

Furthermore, in true Palladium Books fashion, the Republicans have probably mutated mentally from 'restore law and order and a continental civilzation' to 'take everything back for humans regardless of how many generations of peaceful d-bees have been born on American soil'(their beef being that the CS they helped out is now opressing HUMANS just as bad as the non-humans, and deliberately copying the Nazis' tactics...and the Republicans most likley have histories of WW2 drummed into their skulls from an early age...).

The 'Contrivance' has the upper hand, here, I'm afraid...

Prince Cherico · Fri Feb 16, 2007 8:55 pm

Archee for all his faults hes not likely to disrupt the balance of
power in north america. I see him more as defending north america
from the Splugorth and thanks to all his aces I see him getting better
and better at that job as time goes on.

TechnoGothic · Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:52 pm

ARCHIE....

I'd work for/with ARCHIE for Free...
Ok, i'd want a Super-Cyborg Body though...
or
A transferred Intelligence Robot body for myself...
One i can project into and back out...

GaredBattlespike · Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:14 am

First, I just noticed that I've been SIGed!

Second, see my new SIG...'Nuff said!

glitterboy2098 · Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:01 am

odds are the Republicans have NORAD and whatever hightech stuff the US built into the surrounding mountains. (probably just arms depots and survival shelters.)

it would explain why no one ever finds it despite the fact the facility should be simple to track down. lots of people find it, it's just they never leave....

Toc Rat · Unread post by **Toc Rat** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:33 pm

Hard to tell at this point whom to side with but my natural inclination is to go with Archie.

While I like all the material we have seen from the pre-views of the new source book one, I have to point out that it throws out certain key points of Archie's from the original source book one.

That being said should we treat the conflicting information from the original as null and void?

Mech-Viper Prime · Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:03 pm

glitterboy2098 wrote:odds are the Republicans have NORAD and whatever hightech stuff the US built into the surrounding mountains. (probably just arms depots and survival shelters.)

it would explain why no one ever finds it despite the fact the facility should be simple to track down. lots of people find it, it's just they never leave....

well that would answer my ongoing question about NORAD

Josh Sinsapaugh · Sat Feb 17, 2007 6:49 pm

vampire_hunter_D wrote:Second, aren't hte Republicans primarily based out of the East? like, 2000 miles from Colorado? would hinder any attempt to find it. And they probably have written it off and are concentrating on teh Sleepers at the Aberdeen facility

Evidence seem to support that they are based out East:

1. They apparently were using D.C. as a base of operation or at least a base before getting kicked out by Archie.

2. Archie has been battling them for years, he has no powerbase out West.

3. The Republican scout in a HL&S in Adventures in Dinosaur Swamp is said to have a Boston accent. This may hint to the fact that they are based around or near the old Boston area.

~ Josh

Mech-Viper Prime · Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:10 pm

Virginia is strangely quiet, so is eastern shores of Maryland and Delaware.

an accent may point to another part of the country, but it could also not be the case. the scout could be a former sleeper from 21st century boston too.

Vrykolas2k · Unread post by **Vrykolas2k** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:57 pm

I have to go with the Republicans, since ARCHIE has always reminded me of the Democrats. Unimaginative, insane and tyranous.

Mech-Viper Prime · Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:57 pm

Vrykolas2k wrote:I have to go with the Republicans, since ARCHIE has always reminded me of the Democrats. Unimaginative, insane and tyranous.

ouch

Mech-Viper Prime · Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:47 am

vampire_hunter_D wrote:
Mech-Viper Prime wrote:Virginia is strangely quiet, so is eastern shores of Maryland and Delaware.

Ther's a reason for that. You see, everythign east of hte Chesapeak is flooded. Or so Erin Tarn siad in the setting chapter of the Ultimate Edition.

sorry Erin Tarn is a nitwit, who doesnt know her butt from a hole in the ground, but yet maps show it different story

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 12:16 pm

Spinachcat wrote:I'm with the children of NEMA, true inheritors of North America. I want to see those 30,000 NEMA warriors march across the countryside and drop the hammer on Prosek's boys.

Just say NO to crazy toasters!

Im a republican too....

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:32 pm

I'm with ARCHIE.

Better?

/Sub

Xar · Unread post by **Xar** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:30 am

Subjugator wrote:Knowing what I know about SB1, I'm with ARCHIE.

/Sub

:)

Shhh!

Xar · Unread post by **Xar** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:34 am

Nxla666 wrote:Umm, why would NEMA troops attack the CS at all?

"Sir the world is overrun with demons and aliens."

"So what, those fellow humans ruling the most powerful nation in N. America are a bunch of Nazi lovers, we'll get them first!"

Yeah I see that happening.

More like...

"Sir, the worlds overrun with demons, aliens and theres some kind of proto-Nazi government in the Mid-west."

"Well sh*t, we'll set up base here, establish a safe zone from the monsters (as much as possible), and begin establishing our own government. If those guys in Illinois give us any trouble THEN we will deal with them."

Really, I agree with everything Nxla just wrote. However, I think that Archie-3 is one of Kevin's big "no mess with" story elements.

Thou shalt not mess with the CS, Erin Tarn, Splynncryth or Archie-3. They are blessed in his sight, and will not ever fall, or actually come into direct conflict with any of their likewise elevated bretheren.

londonbaz · Unread post by **londonbaz** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:43 am

For a number of reasons, I am with the Republicans.

Shadyslug · Unread post by **Shadyslug** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:22 pm

First off...I doubt that the NEMA "sleepers" are untrained, unexperienced green horns.

Even if they were awakened by the Republicans, they'd most likely do a little intel gathering on their own. Besides which, following the chain of command, they wouldn't allow their forces to be led by someone who isn't NEMA command. Period. End of story.

NEMA will spend the time creating a strong hold. They will expand their forces. They will gather support. And they will want to bring back Peace, Love, and the American Empire...

They might even join forces with ARCHIE3 is he plays his cards right...

Shadyslug · Unread post by **Shadyslug** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:23 pm

By the by...my vote is that the NEMA forces first deal with Splynncryth's forces the south east...

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:31 pm

That is probably true, NEMA fought a war the Coalition lives one.

Shadyslug · Unread post by **Shadyslug** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:59 pm

Alejandro wrote:
Shadyslug wrote:First off...I doubt that the NEMA "sleepers" are untrained, unexperienced green horns.

I didn't mean to make it sound like I thought NEMA was a bunch of rookies...but I did mean to infer that the difference in Coalition Military experience and NEMA combat experience is huge and in favor of the Coalition. NEMA may have fought hard during Apocalypse, but the CS has been building a military and fighting a constant battle against both the supernatural and humans for a long time. The difference between the two groups' knowledge is pretty massive...and not even salvaged pre-Rifts NEMA tech would save them should the two forces come to blows.

Maybe NEMA will hide out in Xiticix territory?

Or maybe they'll suddenly have the resources to create millions of PA. Oh...oh...maybe they'll just do everything they can to NOT get used to being in a post-apocolyptic world!

I don't think that the Coalition really has that much of a jump, tactics wise, on a group of soldiers who not only have the entirety of military history to go on (remember, these guys were trained before history got lost) vs. the Coalition who tends to rewrite history the way they want it to be...

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:35 am

The Way I see it if Republicans get the sleepers,They will go against the FofM.

Archie think this will get the Splugorth invaded some thing he das not have a plan for.

I think The Republicans and Nema,s Sleepers will see the FofM as the bigest danger,ther a Kingdom of Demons and Evil Magic users.

Yes the CS is Nazi-like BUT THER HUMAN!
It,s That Humans stay the Majorty in North America that is the Long-therm Goal.

The Republicans and Nema been devoted to the protection and presoervation of humankind.

It will be Out of Character and just duwm,if you have them face the CS as long ther ther are Big Non-Human dangers like the FofM,the Xiticix and others.

Mech-Viper Prime · Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:53 pm

you know I have been wondering if the coalition has uncovered any sleepers, and if they did what happened?

Nightshade37 · Unread post by **Nightshade37** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:47 pm

I'm with the 30,000 sleepers. I will arrange to have them liberated, awakened, apprised of the situation, and introduced to the New Navy.

Sureshot · Unread post by **Sureshot** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:21 am

A few have said that the Republicans would join with the CS being the lesser of two evils. I would say the would do the opposite. Imo the CS stand for everything the Republicans stand for. After all they come from a time when attitudes and ways of thinking are different.

Second with a name like the Repulicans do you think they would honestly join up with a bunch of fascists led by a psychotic fascist. No way imo. Especially not when it's because of Karl Prosek that their second attempt to recreate something resembling the pre-USA failed. Many people conivinently forget that the CS is a fascist government.

Finally the only other enemy that the Republicans would go after is the FOM because it was the second contributing factor to the creation of the CS and another party responsible for the failure of their dream. In the end they are only on one side their own.

Mech-Viper Prime · Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:44 am

History rewritten by Sureshot :lol:

the republicans laid the foundation of Chi-town, FOM attacked chi-town, Chi-town and other forces attacked the FOM a young joseph prosek come into his own and was elected and odds are ruled by the rule of law , (since because of death and the motivational behind it had to do with his own assistant unable to get her family in the safety of chi-town, because of the law) which lead to karl prosek doing a underground grass route movement to get him elected and after that he was.

just one more note if Dunscon ever found out Republicans were the one behind his father assassination, then Archie would be the least of their problems

Kaleb · Unread post by **Kaleb** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:12 pm

Everything that we talk about is speculation at this time of course.

If the Republicans are a good group of people whose only interest is helping humanity then I am with them. If they are just as crazy as Archie & Hagan then I wouldn't vote for either of them. That being the case I would just hope that they both go away.

Now, if the sleepers get awoken I think it would be cool to have them hidden for a while so that they can first gather their bearings & then have then take over Archie (well, they are going to have to have manufacturing capabilities). Then in time they could be a force to be reckoned with. Or, as someone else stated they could try and hook up with the New Navy.

I had posted in another post about a hook line and sinker that was in the Juicer Uprising book about sleepers and took this as the basis for another group located out in the west. Due to the fact that they are from before the time of the rifts or at least when it started they would still have access codes for the satellites in space which would give them the ability to contact groups like the New Navy. Maybe they could then start working with them to help try and restore humanity.

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:22 pm

Kaleb wrote:Everything that we talk about is speculation at this time of course.

If the Republicans are a good group of people whose only interest is helping humanity then I am with them. If they are just as crazy as Archie & Hagan then I wouldn't vote for either of them. That being the case I would just hope that they both go away.

Now, if the sleepers get awoken I think it would be cool to have them hidden for a while so that they can first gather their bearings & then have then take over Archie (well, they are going to have to have manufacturing capabilities). Then in time they could be a force to be reckoned with. Or, as someone else stated they could try and hook up with the New Navy.

I had posted in another post about a hook line and sinker that was in the Juicer Uprising book about sleepers and took this as the basis for another group located out in the west. Due to the fact that they are from before the time of the rifts or at least when it started they would still have access codes for the satellites in space which would give them the ability to contact groups like the New Navy. Maybe they could then start working with them to help try and restore humanity.

Actually, for me, it's *NOT* speculative. I've got the book!

Neener neener neener!

/Sub

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:39 pm

EPIC wrote:
Subjugator wrote:Actually, for me, it's *NOT* speculative. I've got the book!

Neener neener neener!

/Sub

*smashes subby with his boomgun ... erm ... meter stick in the face*

*steals subbies SB1 while he's crying on the floor*

*runs away laughing maniacally*

*casts CoA and watches EPIC halt in his tracks*
*sells EPIC into bio-wizard experimentation*
*reads SB1 to EPIC as he is transformed*

/Sub

Greyaxe · Unread post by **Greyaxe** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:09 pm

Subjugator wrote:
EPIC wrote:
Subjugator wrote:Actually, for me, it's *NOT* speculative. I've got the book!

Neener neener neener!

/Sub

*smashes subby with his boomgun ... erm ... meter stick in the face*

*steals subbies SB1 while he's crying on the floor*

*runs away laughing maniacally*

*casts CoA and watches EPIC halt in his tracks*
*sells EPIC into bio-wizard experimentation*
*reads SB1 to EPIC as he is transformed*

/Sub

Epic You are a Zembach

The Galactus Kid · Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:53 pm

Duck-foot is killed by the Magic Anvil of munchkin killing for trying to play a God. I love being GM.

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:10 pm

duck-foot wrote:Hand of God comes down grabs book out of Subs hand and gives it to Duck-Foot. hahahahahaha

Hand of KEV reaches down and fixes everything for his buddy Subbie.

/Sub

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:11 pm

duck-foot wrote:Ofcourse you relieze this means war (said in the tone of Bugs Bunny)

Is that from the one where he's a bull fighter, or another altogether (that's the only one I can remember offhand)?

/Sub

cornholioprime · Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:10 pm

Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:I'm with Archie on this one.

Of course, I am biased.

~ Josh

Me, too.

HE's the one that I want to run Chi-Town!!

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