Forgotten or Dead gods
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Forgotten or Dead gods
Does anyone ever actually use Forgotten or Dead gods and do you use myths or make up your own
Forgotten some what, Dead not so much. Dead.. tend to be dead. Though the parts of Osiris? (I think thats the one) poping up in Rifts I suppose counts.
It all depends on the game I suppose. I tend not to pull things like deific powers into it, or if I do it's only a sort of skirting touch. Unless it's say a fantasy setting where gods are very common and have many priests and the like as it seem Rifts Earth may be on the cusp of just starting to have priests with an actual real Deity to grant them power (Such as Isis having worshipers in Madhaven)
Certainly it would give me an excuse to use the various rules governing such things out of the Gods and Dragons book.
It all depends on the game I suppose. I tend not to pull things like deific powers into it, or if I do it's only a sort of skirting touch. Unless it's say a fantasy setting where gods are very common and have many priests and the like as it seem Rifts Earth may be on the cusp of just starting to have priests with an actual real Deity to grant them power (Such as Isis having worshipers in Madhaven)
Certainly it would give me an excuse to use the various rules governing such things out of the Gods and Dragons book.
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No, not yet anyway.
I have used deific-level beings on occasion (i.e. an unnamed Alien Intelligence and a race that monitors several places in the Megaverse). I've even used some "sensitive" lore in my Rifts campaign (i.e. they got to see the Spear of Destiny), but not really forgotten or dead gods.
I have used deific-level beings on occasion (i.e. an unnamed Alien Intelligence and a race that monitors several places in the Megaverse). I've even used some "sensitive" lore in my Rifts campaign (i.e. they got to see the Spear of Destiny), but not really forgotten or dead gods.
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Yes, one of my favorite forgotten gawds to use is Mithras and occasionally Sumerian or Babylonian gawds.
In fantasy games, I have created my own gawds and myths and had a grand ole time doing it.
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Yes, one of my favorite forgotten gawds to use is Mithras and occasionally Sumerian or Babylonian gawds.
In fantasy games, I have created my own gawds and myths and had a grand ole time doing it.
Tony
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Making up gods is an interesting way to really set a tone for your world. How are the battle lines drawn?
Good Vs Evil are the simplest (have two pantheons at war),
Law Vs Chaos (Less cliche, but not by much),
Nature vs Technological (there's an interesting bunch of things to base gods off of),
Are all the gods 'neutral', but each with a purpose (the Greeks had no god of 'evil' or 'good', they only had Gods of 'thing').
Perhaps the Gods are all alien things, folks don't know what they want, but they have some odd relationship with them since they do respond... sorta.
When you decide what your gods are for, you're actually deciding what ideas are the most important in your World. The pre-existing gods are things that were important to people millenia ago (Every pantheon has a deity devoted to *harvest* for pete's sake!), but if you're making for a modern audience, different ideas are important.
Good Vs Evil are the simplest (have two pantheons at war),
Law Vs Chaos (Less cliche, but not by much),
Nature vs Technological (there's an interesting bunch of things to base gods off of),
Are all the gods 'neutral', but each with a purpose (the Greeks had no god of 'evil' or 'good', they only had Gods of 'thing').
Perhaps the Gods are all alien things, folks don't know what they want, but they have some odd relationship with them since they do respond... sorta.
When you decide what your gods are for, you're actually deciding what ideas are the most important in your World. The pre-existing gods are things that were important to people millenia ago (Every pantheon has a deity devoted to *harvest* for pete's sake!), but if you're making for a modern audience, different ideas are important.
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If you were to ask anyone that has played in my largst campaign, called the Shadow War, who my most memorable villain was, they will all tell you the same thing. The Shadow God. My own creation, and uber-powerful, to be sure. I'll not go into all the details here, but suffice it to say that his creation and that of the religion that surrounds him and eventually lead to the shadow war took me something like three years. The campaign that I ran, with him as the prime villain, ran for almost twice that long the first time. (I have run it twice.) Is it worth it to create your own gods? You'd better believe it! 
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One of my PC's has an interesting subplot. His mother was a worshiper of a god of Magic from some far corner of the Megaverse. At a Victory party she met a charming man and wound up prego. Her Daughter is a demigodess. who her daddy is is a question. Did his mothers god pay her a visit? What do you do when the stubborn brat you call a sister has enough power at her disposal to destroy large sections of the landscape?
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Sure I've used God/Jesus, Thor, Isis and a slew of othes. I usually tend to use The PF gods as Ascended Gods and others as Eternal who ahve been there since the beginning or before time
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A few of my chars are the followers of one of the old elvish gods, the Goddess Anari: goddess of Fertility and magic.
She was just the Fertiliy goddess till she assumed the mantle of the god of magic during the chaose wars. With the coming of the new gods, her panthion just wandered away from the world of The Palladium, as they lost their followers.
As a (now) a minior Deity, she chooses her preists herself from the ranks of her followers, ussuly before they are born.
She was just the Fertiliy goddess till she assumed the mantle of the god of magic during the chaose wars. With the coming of the new gods, her panthion just wandered away from the world of The Palladium, as they lost their followers.
As a (now) a minior Deity, she chooses her preists herself from the ranks of her followers, ussuly before they are born.
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KillWatch wrote:Sure I've used God/Jesus, Thor, Isis and a slew of othes. I usually tend to use The PF gods as Ascended Gods and others as Eternal who ahve been there since the beginning or before time
Curious, have you considered using the prophet Muhammed? Oh wait, that would lead to people burning cars and buildings in France. On second thought...
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Natalya wrote:I've been mixing in deities from the Chinese pantheon. Very, very slow, trying to figure out who does what. But my players enjoy it.
Interesting! Which gods and/or deities have you been using, may I ask? If possible, would you post some of their stats/info you used for them?
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Use forgotten gods in our campaign? Hell we have two godlings and a demigod who are from the Norse Pantheons.
And our GM had a wonderful time having a dragon disguised as a priest talk about religion... really silly when when he said "Remove your shoe in church!". Though this what just to screw with the HU mutants.
And our GM had a wonderful time having a dragon disguised as a priest talk about religion... really silly when when he said "Remove your shoe in church!". Though this what just to screw with the HU mutants.
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Goblin-Jack wrote:Natalya wrote:I've been mixing in deities from the Chinese pantheon. Very, very slow, trying to figure out who does what. But my players enjoy it.
Interesting! Which gods and/or deities have you been using, may I ask? If possible, would you post some of their stats/info you used for them?
Thanks!!
Well, I've never actually statted them. Never had a need to, to be perfectly honest.
I've used the Jade Emperor, Queen Mother Wang, Pan Chin Lien (patron of prostitutes), T'Shai Shen (patron of wealth), Hou Chi (patron of harvest), and maybe a couple of others. I usually use them in name only (a group of NPCs who talk of them or make offerings to them), but I did have a funny side adventure where the PCs had to clean up the mess following the Patron of Prostitutes as she was making a tour of the mortal realm.
Natalya wrote: I usually use them in name only (a group of NPCs who talk of them or make offerings to them), but I did have a funny side adventure where the PCs had to clean up the mess following the Patron of Prostitutes as she was making a tour of the mortal realm.
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