Dragons and Gods vs Pantheons of the Megaverse

plata_knight · Unread post by **plata_knight** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:48 pm

Which is better?

Do they both contain notes on Godlings and Demi-Gods?

How about info on generating new gods?

Do they both (or either) list MDC and SDC stats?

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J. Lionheart · Unread post by **J. Lionheart** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:38 am

plata_knight wrote:Which is better?

Depends what you're playing. D&G is better for PF games, while PotM will be superior for most other settings. While PotM is almost exclusively gods (Earth gods, at that), D&G includes large sections on dragons, elementals, infernals, angels, and all that jazz. D&G is geared towards fantasy, while PotM is a bit more megaversal, and high powered.

Do they both contain notes on Godlings and Demi-Gods?

No. PotM has information and full character classes for creating Godling and Demi-God player characters, and using them as N.P.C.'s. D&G barely mentions them.

It is important to note that the terms "Godling" and "Demi-God" do not mean the same thing in PF as they do in RIFTS or elsewhere. In RIFTS, "Godling" means a low level god, usually in service to a more powerful one, and "Demi-God" means a half-mortal, half-deity. In PF, "Godling" is just a diminutive one ought to be careful using around the deity in question (no official distinction), and "demi-god" is a soi-dissant pretender to power, such as a mage worshipped by a group of goblins.

How about info on generating new gods?

Hmm, good question. Neither has a fully written out "god" character class, though upping the "godling" class in PotM might work. Whereas PotM has a class that can be modified, D&G provides more background on powers and abilities that are common to gods... in the PF world.

Do they both (or either) list MDC and SDC stats?

Yes. D&G is written for PF, and is S.D.C. with M.D.C. notes. PotM is written for RIFTS, and is M.D.C. with S.D.C. notes.

Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:58 am

J. Lionheart wrote:
plata_knight wrote:How about info on generating new gods?

Hmm, good question. Neither has a fully written out "god" character class, though upping the "godling" class in PotM might work. Whereas PotM has a class that can be modified, D&G provides more background on powers and abilities that are common to gods... in the PF world.

Based on a note way back in the original Conversion Book 1, the stats for Supernatural Intelligences can "serve as a basis for designing specific mythical gods." (See page 205 under Supernatural Intelligences.) So, technically, D&G does have info on generating new gods.

plata_knight · Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:31 pm

Do they both cover the same deities?

Novastar · Unread post by **Novastar** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:23 pm

J. Lionheart · Unread post by **J. Lionheart** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:16 pm

plata_knight wrote:Do they both cover the same deities?

Big NO on that one. D&G covers the gods of PF, while PotM covers gods of Earth. There is minimal overlap, and no repetition of specific deities that I'm aware of.

Talavar · Unread post by **Talavar** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:22 pm

I think the only god overlap are the Egyptian gods, which are in D&G as well as Rifts Africa.

plata_knight · Unread post by **plata_knight** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:40 pm

Talavar wrote:I think the only god overlap are the Egyptian gods, which are in D&G as well as Rifts Africa.

So they are in D&G, Rifts Africa, and PoM?

J. Lionheart · Unread post by **J. Lionheart** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:45 pm

plata_knight wrote:
Talavar wrote:I think the only god overlap are the Egyptian gods, which are in D&G as well as Rifts Africa.

So they are in D&G, Rifts Africa, and PoM?

Egyptian gods are not in PotM.

plata_knight · Unread post by **plata_knight** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:48 pm

Do the Egyptian Gods from D&G have the same notes and powers as those listed in Rifts Africa? My brother used to have that book, but can't find it anymore. Do I need that book just for those powers?

DrBeau · Unread post by **DrBeau** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:18 pm

plata_knight wrote:Do the Egyptian Gods from D&G have the same notes and powers as those listed in Rifts Africa? My brother used to have that book, but can't find it anymore. Do I need that book just for those powers?

I believe so. If not, I think it's relatively close.

plata_knight · Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:06 am

DrBeau wrote:
plata_knight wrote:Do the Egyptian Gods from D&G have the same notes and powers as those listed in Rifts Africa? My brother used to have that book, but can't find it anymore. Do I need that book just for those powers?

I believe so. If not, I think it's relatively close.

I'm most interested in Amon's Bio-Wizardry and the Egyptian's mastery of stone magic. I guess I could just buy Africa for that info, but there's not much else in the book I'm interested in.

Anyway, I think this answers my Questions, except to ask if anyone has a personal preference or if one is better written than the other.

Talavar · Unread post by **Talavar** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:10 pm

The D&G Egyptian gods are mostly the same as the Rifts Africa versions, but for a few OCC-type differences, and the odd stat. A lot of the material was clearly just cut & pasted in the glorious tradition of such.

plata_knight · Unread post by **plata_knight** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 8:37 pm

Thanks.

plata_knight · Unread post by **plata_knight** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:28 pm

Well, by an interesting series of events, I wound up with both copies. They are both pretty good, and have alot of useful information, but if I had to pick one, I'd say that D&G is slightly better written, and has more information relevant to priest abilities, spells and blessings, as well as more info on deific powers.

drewkitty ~..~ · Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:57 pm

Which is better? D&G

Do they both contain notes on Godlings and Demi-Gods? only RCB2

How about info on generating new gods? D&G

Do they both (or either) list MDC and SDC stats? ??...(its been a while sence I looked @ eather)

cornholioprime · Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:13 pm

plata_knight wrote:Well, by an interesting series of events, I wound up with both copies. They are both pretty good, and have alot of useful information, but if I had to pick one, I'd say that D&G is slightly better written, and has more information relevant to priest abilities, spells and blessings, as well as more info on deific powers.

you may want to start supplementing your rifts (if that is your cup of tea) with some pfrpg books.

i'm on the rifts side of the megaverse, but the pfrpg side is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay richer....in terms of magical diversity, powers of the gods (look up horus for one example; in one day, he could almost completely eliminate the vampire kingdoms on rifts earth all by himself), rune artifacts, and stories.

just about everything.

KillWatch · Unread post by **KillWatch** » Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:17 am

Get them both. One has god like classes and the other has god spells. And while you are at it get the Old Ones

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