Most Awsome power Armor in Rifts

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:57 pm

I'm surprised this one hasn't come up:

Solar Combat Armor - flies better than a Flying Titan, more MDC than the Predator, a 1D6x10 railgun or a set of 1D4x10+10 plasma ejectors (which can be paired together for 2D4x10+20 of plasma toasty goodness) and the ability to sheath itself in a field of plasma energy protecting it from most attacks!

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:23 am

So that is your choice Jefffar? It is a great PA. What are your others ones? Say 1 thru 4.

Jefffar · Unread post by **Jefffar** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 7:28 am

Mostly situationally dependant:

Unlike a lot of folks here, I consider the Jaeger a light robot rather than a PA, so that's off the list - likewise the Ulti-max or the Glitterboy - though all three designs I like to use for ground combat. I also consider many of the Kittani designs - which don't have the pilots legs actually involved in locomotion - to be real power armor, so that's why they aren't in my list.

I do tend towards mobility and striking power in my PA designs, with armour as a secondary consideration.

So this means the NG Sampson and the TR Flying Titan are some of my faves from the North American continent.

From European armours I'm fond of the Triax X-10A

Japan's the Dai Katana Bugei is a great combo of offense, defense and mobility, probably my second favourite overall.

The capabilities of the Naruni and the 3G armours are impressive, but I don't use them in my games very often so I don't have much of a relationship with them.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:52 pm

I thought the GB was operated with the pilot's legs in at least the top of the GBs legs.

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:16 pm

Aramanthus wrote:I thought the GB was operated with the pilot's legs in at least the top of the GBs legs.

It's not operated from a console, like the Ultimax, if that's what you're talking about.

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Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:22 pm

I still thought the operators legs were in the legs of the GB. I need to have my books here at work.

Damian Magecraft · Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:26 pm

wow...all this analysis of damage rates and mdc values...dosesnt any one pick PAs cause they look cool any more?

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:49 pm

I did that is the reason way back there I said the GB was my favorite.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:10 pm

According to what I've managed to find out after reading an article on Modern Railguns, the weapon DOES impart kinetic energy onto the firing platform (the Glitterboy), although it doesn't actually have as much kick as a conventional cannon. In order to fire the weapon in a standing position without bracing against a wall, the Glitterboy probably would need the dampeners on the back to keep standing, but not the pylons. At most, the GB would probably slide back an inch or two. Also, after evaluating the design and firing rate of the GB cannon, I think it's more of a coilgun then a railgun. For a single shot weapon, the coilgun would provide more speed and power then the electro magnetic rail system, since the coils activate in a sequence, speeding up the cartridge all the way out of the barrel. As for fully automatic, the rail system would work better since the system is less complex. Might I add, I think it was said before somewhere on this board, but the speed on the boomgun round is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAY off. It should be moving much faster then that. :-D

Soooo... after making all the corrections to the armor suit I now very much like the glitterboy as my new tank.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:08 pm

Yeah I know it should be moving at what around 10X that speed minimum? I'd have to go and read how fast the railgun speed is. I'm not sure.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:42 pm

And according to what I've read up on this old military article I bought, a coil gun could fire off a round moving roughly four to five times that of a rail gun.

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:16 am

Max™ wrote:The Ulti-max pilot has their legs inside the upper legs of the suit I thought.

It's 16 feet tall, large no doubt, but not big enough for you to sit entirely inside the body unless you're curled up into a very tight ball.

The description of the Ulti-Max says that the pilot sits at a console.

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Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:56 am

No at 16' tall there is plenty of room for a one man cockpit. Take a look at a mini van and measure out the dimensions of the driver space. One could easily fit that into the body of that Ultimax. Probably still room for a cup holder or two for a thermos of coffee in the morning, actually.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:57 pm

Technically speaking, it probably wouldn't be that much more costly to convert a Power Armor into a basic borg body type. Just stick the brain and life support systems inside and you're ready to go. :-D

Yes, I've heard of a player making a Glitterboy borg.

Aramanthus · Unread post by **Aramanthus** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:02 pm

A Glitterboy PA converted to a borg body. I guess it would be possible. You'd just have to be also to put the life support into the PA and then seal it so no one could remove it and throw the poor person's innards out. Also you'd have to seriously revamp all of the controls in the PA to be mentally controlled. It would take quite a bit of extensive refitting.

sennin · Unread post by **sennin** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 7:15 pm

Colt47 wrote:Technically speaking, it probably wouldn't be that much more costly to convert a Power Armor into a basic borg body type. Just stick the brain and life support systems inside and you're ready to go.

Yes, I've heard of a player making a Glitterboy borg.

Take a look at the robot soldier in Triax. IIRC, they have options for using some of the Jagers as a body. Don't have the book in front of me to double check. I would say it is quite possible.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Tue Aug 14, 2007 7:02 pm

Domo arigatou Mr. Roboto. Someone with power over machines make that puppy dance!

Phadeout · Unread post by **Phadeout** » Fri Aug 17, 2007 1:57 pm

My favs, based on my style and not "specs".

1) Free Quebec SideKick (the sweetest terrain-hopper evar!)
2) Triax Super Trooper (my kinda soldier and anti-vehicle)
3) Triax GlitterBoy (it's the Glitterboy that makes sense to me, has 2 free hands and decent additional weapons - I also like the V-shaped visor, the original is just goofy for being so stripped down, especially considering the time period it was created in, along with it's combat role)
4) Kitanni Serpent Power Armor (love the design and function)

Talavar · Unread post by **Talavar** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:02 am

Would a full conversion borg in power armor be that much better? I mean, borgs don't get bonus attacks or anything. A juicer in PA would be crazy, though I'm not sure that's kosher by the book off the top of my head.

Rockwolf66 · Unread post by **Rockwolf66** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 3:41 am

A custom Ulti-max with a Railgun that does truely rival that of a Glitter Boy.

Nxla666 · Unread post by **Nxla666** » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:02 pm

Fav PA in Rifts huh?

1: Ultimax- pilot sits at a console (fully encased btw), the original reason it was classed as PA was weight.

2: CS Deaths Head SAMAS

3: Glitter Boy- can you say BOOM! bee-otch!

4: X-10 predator

5: and from out of the box Saber Cyclone

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:13 pm

Yeah, it's kind of like cracking open a walnut and instead of finding soft nut inside you find a hard shelled beetle with nasty pincers.

I've already stated my favorites, but I'll state them again:

1. J.A.P.E. Defender power armor produced by the black market. Highly flexible payload with good armor for a power armor of it's size.
2. Triax Terrain Hopper produced by Triax Industries. As a fan of the Video Game Tribes, this suit is just so reminiscent of the light armor from the genre. Plus with some anti friction fields on the feet, I can power slide across hilly terrain. Trust me, there is nothing like power sliding. :-D

3. Gladiator Power Armor with a nuclear power system produced by Northern Gun. Another light, man sized suit of power armor that borders on being an Environmental Body Armor. It doesn't have the hopping feature of the Terrain Hopper, but it's got a little more armor and is fairly common in the Americas. With a jet pack attachment and anti-friction fields on the feet it can power slide, giving it excellent speed (power sliding with anti-friction fields can get speeds of up to 200-220 MPH average in hilly or mountainous terrain).
4. Sidewinder and Wild Weasel SAMAS produced by Bandito Arms in Nevada. Plain out superior SAMAS designs using vector thrust systems. Excellent maneuverability and great firepower even when using the experimental grenade launcher. The Wild Weasel is pretty much the best power armor for coordinating attacks and defense with its pair of black boxes.
5. The Samson Missile man made by Northern Gun. I'm not a big fan of the original Samson, since the original is big, poorly armored for a mechanized unit of it's size, and also has moderate firepower. The missile-man changes that with a whole payload of missiles mounted over the shoulders. It's not as fast as the original Samson, but it packs more firepower and has moderate armor.

sHaka · Unread post by **sHaka** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 8:06 am

Max™ wrote:
Talavar wrote:Would a full conversion borg in power armor be that much better? I mean, borgs don't get bonus attacks or anything. A juicer in PA would be crazy, though I'm not sure that's kosher by the book off the top of my head.

Adelphi Juicer's I think it is get piloting bonuses.

Phaeton Juicer I believe (at work!)

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:45 am

The downfall to the power trooper is it's overly large size. Due to the size I have to give it a lower score on the armor value, plus it is fairly slow. Like most of Free Quebec's power armors, it does excel in the firepower category with its large compliment of mini missiles. A pilot in a smaller and more maneuverable power armor will pick it apart fairly quickly.

Colt47 · Unread post by **Colt47** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 11:53 pm

The pilot isn't factored into the power armor basic ratings.

I'd have to take another look at that one. From memory I believe I gave the unit with the forcefield high marks on durability, though it is slow. As a power armor meant to counter the USA-G10 Chromium Guardsman it is a greater success then the Ulti-Max. Albeit it would still lose in a one on one strait out confrontation. It's a good all rounder type of ground power armor that would excel as a front line defender.

TechnoGothic · Unread post by **TechnoGothic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:24 am

Prince Cherico wrote:what is the most awsome power armor in rifts

For me its the classic gliter boy what is it for you guys?

SPLICERS : Dreadguard Host Armor (Bio-Power Armor)

South America 2 : SOLAR COMBAT ARMOR
South America 2 : ARMOR OF THE SUN
South America 2 : NAZCA PA

Aliens Unlimited Revised : RAITHENOR Symbiote PA

Free Quebec : Glitterboy
Free Quebec : Silverwolf
Free Quebec : Violator SAMAS

Phase World Sourcebook : WARLOCK MARINE PA

dark brandon · Unread post by **dark brandon** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:30 am

Classic SAMAS. Dreads for TEH win!

TechnoGothic · Unread post by **TechnoGothic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:40 am

dark brandon wrote:Classic SAMAS. Dreads for TEH win!

Yes the DREADguard would win

TechnoGothic · Unread post by **TechnoGothic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:44 am

Subjugator wrote:
Aramanthus wrote:I thought the GB was operated with the pilot's legs in at least the top of the GBs legs.

It's not operated from a console, like the Ultimax, if that's what you're talking about.

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GLITTERBOY Pilots Legs operate the GB's Legs. The Pilot does the running for the PA, which the PA assists which increases the endurance of the pilot for running. The GB pilot can run 10x longer than normal at full speed (60mph) of the PA.

Says so in the Glitterboy discribtions and details.

Subjugator · Unread post by **Subjugator** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:09 am

TechnoGothic wrote:
Subjugator wrote:
Aramanthus wrote:I thought the GB was operated with the pilot's legs in at least the top of the GBs legs.

It's not operated from a console, like the Ultimax, if that's what you're talking about.

GLITTERBOY Pilots Legs operate the GB's Legs. The Pilot does the running for the PA, which the PA assists which increases the endurance of the pilot for running. The GB pilot can run 10x longer than normal at full speed (60mph) of the PA.

Says so in the Glitterboy discribtions and details.

That's pretty much what I was saying. His legs go down inside them. In the Ultimax, the pilot sits in a chair or the like.

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TechnoGothic · Unread post by **TechnoGothic** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:13 am

Subjugator wrote:
TechnoGothic wrote:
Subjugator wrote:
Aramanthus wrote:I thought the GB was operated with the pilot's legs in at least the top of the GBs legs.

It's not operated from a console, like the Ultimax, if that's what you're talking about.

GLITTERBOY Pilots Legs operate the GB's Legs. The Pilot does the running for the PA, which the PA assists which increases the endurance of the pilot for running. The GB pilot can run 10x longer than normal at full speed (60mph) of the PA.

Says so in the Glitterboy discribtions and details.

That's pretty much what I was saying. His legs go down inside them. In the Ultimax, the pilot sits in a chair or the like.

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