Question: Hound Vision?

The ineffible GM · Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:32 pm

An interesting question has arisen with a player of mine.
Hounds from Nightbane have the following natural ability: Immune to all illusions and powers of concealment (can see through the Shroud Talent, normal invisibility
spells, and any magical or psionic powers of disguise or camouflage)

Does this include powers of metamorphosis?
Does it only include SOME of the powers of Metamorphosis? Such as those where the transformation grants the abilities of the new form? What if the transformation does not? Specifically I am dealing with a Chiang-Ku dragon hatchling. Their power reads: The power of metamorphosis
is a natural power common to most dragons, but
no other dragon possesses the degree of control and duration
as the Chiang-Ku. Even as a hatchling, the dragon is a
shapechanger supreme, able to completely alter its physical
shape to look like any living animal, from human being to raven,
and can even turn into mist (same as the spell). The
transformation lasts indefinitely (mist has the same limits as
the spell) — weeks, months, or years! Even when rendered
unconscious or sleeping, the Chiang-Ku retains its false
shape. Only coma or death will transform the dragon into its
true serpentine body. The dragon's shape-changing prowess
is so great that it can try to copy/imitate a particular person or
specific animal at a skill proficiency of 10% +5% per level of
experience.
Regardless of it's shape, a dragon is a dragon, with all it's natural powers and abilities. So a hatchling metamorphed to look like a goat can still talk, cast spells, and kick with the strength of a dragon. The Metamorphosis does NOT instill any of the abilities of the animal or person the dragon is imitating.

The power description also states that the dragon cannot turn into an inanimate object, and that it cannot transform into anything smaller than a cat.

Can a hound see through a chiang-ku's metamorphosis?

mobuttu · Unread post by **mobuttu** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:56 am

If metamorphosis is a actual "physical" transformation of the character flesh and bones, I would say no. If metamorphosis is a sort of illusion, then yes. IMHO. :oops:

Nekira Sudacne · Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:01 am

mobuttu wrote:If metamorphosis is a actual "physical" transformation of the character flesh and bones, I would say no. If metamorphosis is a sort of illusion, then yes. IMHO.

Metamorphasis IS an actual transformation.

And no, hounds cannot see though it. it's not a form of concealment, that IS your real body for the duration.

The Beast · Unread post by **The Beast** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:36 am

Does this mean they can see me in the port-a-john? :oops:

Nekira Sudacne · Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:09 pm

The Beast wrote:Does this mean they can see me in the port-a-john?

They do not have X-ray vision.

The Beast · Unread post by **The Beast** » Sun Sep 09, 2007 11:00 pm

Nekira Sudacne wrote:
The Beast wrote:Does this mean they can see me in the port-a-john?

They do not have X-ray vision.

But it says that they're immune to all illusions and powers of concealment, and my power of concealment when I'm in one are the 4 walls.... :clown:

Nekira Sudacne · Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:11 pm

The Beast wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
The Beast wrote:Does this mean they can see me in the port-a-john?

They do not have X-ray vision.

But it says that they're immune to all illusions and powers of concealment, and my power of concealment when I'm in one are the 4 walls....