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So correct me if I am wrong, but reading over this last Rifter I found that there were very mortal slaves who ate and drank in hell, specifically, dyval.

The only evidence of an afterlife then remains undead ghosts, zombies, etc. And once they are defeated they cease to exist. So is there or is ther enot an afterlife in palladium? If so what is the evidence? and where the hell (literaly?) are they
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it seemed to me that if there were that many souls they might be mentioned, or even cooler classes for the tormented souls ala nightbane

Why are their mortals there? Wouldn't working immortal souls work out much better than the body that would seem to die almost immediately in the environment? Why not just kill anyone who enters and then enslave the souls
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the palladium games don't deal with the afterlife, generally to avoid showing favoritism to any single religion.

Hades and Dyval are other worlds who's occupants have been named "demons and devils" by humanity, but are not places where dead souls end up. "demons" are living beings like any other, just with very different biologies giving them special poweres and toughness.

ghosts are energy beings mimmicking the appearance of people who died in that area, not actual dead people. they do this because they are too weak minded to have their own personalities.

zombies are animated corpses, usually without any form of intellegence.

"magic" is related to PPE, a bio-energy not unlike Star-War's "Force". an energy field created by all living things.

the closest palladium gets is 'soul-drinker' and rune weapons, which maybe a debateable issue since all they really do is take away the mind but leave a perfectly functioning body. where the "mind" ends and the "soul" begins is an issue theologians are still debating, and will be debating forever.
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The way I do it is that when someone dies their Astral Body simply passes into the Astral Realm. They essentially get sent there and depending on how the player plays things out, they could go anywhere... including getting a new body...etc.

I do limit this of course and don't always allow players to use this and take advantage of it.
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Well you could use the astral plane or even utu as a way station where souls go to wait for whatever is next for them, reincarnation, ascension or damnation. And time is funky in the astral so coming back could take minutes or centuries, not to mention they won't immediately know who they were or maybe never know until they go searching for their past lives through various means.

but anyhow back to hell,
I agree that it is probably just another mini dimension with actual living beings, but using hell and demons make it seem much more, epic. It's beyond cosmic importance, it's more than the lives at stake, it's the immortal souls of the multiverse. But putting it back into this context then it begins to feel almost like a small scale or less threatening version of the mechanoids.

as for religious favortism, I want to see R: DB: Hevon complete with Jesus and Yahweh write ups :lol:
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There are reference of eating and drinking in Valhalla too.

Those people are daed.

You have to understand, most afterlifes are just old life in a new place.

People enjoy eating.

So most people assume heaven will have food.

and hell will have bad food.
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yes but these are rewards and for pleasure not necessity
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and?
well if they were in hades and were dead then their food would eat them. They wouldn't need to eat, they'd be forced to eat. Kind of like fear factor x infinity
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the rightr one? what do they go around killing other priests for being false prophets? What if you have two priests of two different pantheons ? What if the priest dies and plays another priest of another god of another pantheon?
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