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rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:45 am

range seems excessive (not that most of it does not seem excessive) I like the concept of multi ammo weapons and am trying to work a few into my equipment, but I am not sold on this yet.

btw, how long till the paladin steel netbook?

abtex · Unread post by **abtex** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:10 pm

Aramanthus wrote:Cool! I can't wait to see the new weapons that come out due to those great links someone nicely provided! Thank you guys!

What was the link(s) that you had found? Did not mean to get in front of yours.
This is the search that I used it also has videos of AA-12 in action.
http://www.google.com/search?q=AA-12+sh ... cape:en-US

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:42 pm

Whatever works for you...it's a light SPG with the ability to defend itself, but it can also hunt tanks...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:57 pm

rat_bastard wrote:range seems excessive (not that most of it does not seem excessive) I like the concept of multi ammo weapons and am trying to work a few into my equipment, but I am not sold on this yet.

btw, how long till the paladin steel netbook?

Then cut the range to 1,000 ft...still better than most shotguns, but now it's more of a grenade launcher...
The whole concept, though, is of a cutdown artillery piece for those super-strong people who just HAVE to have the Shotgun From Hell...

One of those absurd weapons likely to exist only on Rifts Earth...

Since infantry portable mortars run up into the 180mm range, I'm sure some cyborgs have tried hefting one and firing it like a one-shot launcher just for kicks(and like the mis-translated Japanese 'knee mortar' of WW2, it's NOT a good idea...as many U.S. servicemen who tried it and ended up with broken legs, discovered).

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 2:59 pm

I'm still cranking out toys to put IN any such netbook...

abtex · Unread post by **abtex** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:02 pm

On arming a Buzzball, I have a picture that I printed from somewhere on the web, cannot remember where. So I cannot give you a link to see it. Name is Orb-driven Cruiser?. The finished center piece has a round sphere in the middle of a car looking body. Has fins on rear of body, weapon on a mast like "turret", driver compartment is just in front of sphere. Thumbnails show some other forms all 'floating' over the single orb:
a chair sitting on an orb
Heavy armored and armed body covering an orb

there are more but i will have to find the sheet.
The easy way to arm the Buzzball would be with a crown with fixed weapons and side pods. Using normal tech. Magic and DBee strangest...adds other possibles and needs "intense contemplation"

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:02 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:A very cool idea to say the very least. If you ever make a full book of goodies this has got to get thrown in.

Taking a high-low approach to PS production and marketing...you got high-end borderline munchkin weaponry and you got all the lower-level, lower cost, 'component' stuff that can be bought in numbers/bulk...something for everybody...Think the MDC and firepower on some PS products is too high? Well, then look at some of our lower-end goods that should meet your budget and GMing needs...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:04 pm

As yeh will, in all good time..

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:31 pm

You're welcome...We'll keep making 'em as long as people keep buying 'em...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:37 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Nice ground vehicle. I almost wish I gave some of my characters piloting in ground vehicles instead of hovercraft.

Hmmm...gotta work on hovercraft... :-D

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:34 pm

abtex wrote:On arming a Buzzball, I have a picture that I printed from somewhere on the web, cannot remember where. So I cannot give you a link to see it. Name is Orb-driven Cruiser?. The finished center piece has a round sphere in the middle of a car looking body. Has fins on rear of body, weapon on a mast like "turret", driver compartment is just in front of sphere. Thumbnails show some other forms all 'floating' over the single orb:
a chair sitting on an orb
Heavy armored and armed body covering an orb

there are more but i will have to find the sheet.
The easy way to arm the Buzzball would be with a crown with fixed weapons and side pods. Using normal tech. Magic and DBee strangest...adds other possibles and needs "intense contemplation"

I think that on the www.drakroastedblend.com webste they had some ideas for a WW1-era 'battleball' that could be rolled across the barbed wire and trenches...

I also recall a speculative technology sketch for a giant uni-tire moon rover that had a large centarl spheroid hull, with the wheel running in a polar position, and had an enormous solar parasol/solar array overhead...
I wonder if Heinlein had seen that picture, because in 'The Cat That Walks Through Walls', he has a lunar terrorist band driving a moon rover that's one enormous wheel, with gun positions on gyrostablized 'sideboards' sticking out from the center-hub...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:38 pm

Also expect the Pulverizer to see some minor cosmetic customization for the 'sportsmen' using this darn thing...

On the other hand, Masamune Shirow is fond of depicting his full-conversion hero Briareos totin' some heavy caliber hardware...including a few weapons that look to be at least in the 60mm range, and don't look like one-off custom guns...

Then of course we have the new Hellboy II movie, where he's packing a six-shooter with some SERIOUS caliber....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:58 pm

I don't have any formal plans for a catalogue...I'm still figuring out how to rewrite Paladin Steel's history...

PS is definitely a Rifts-Earth based company, based out of a Greater New England...but it doesn't necessarily have to be THE Rifts Earth...but a slightly different alternity...
See, my theory of interdimensional travel is that it's typically easier to travel between widely and readily divergent worlds than it is to travel between slightly similar ones...It should be easier to travel to places that are 'closer', interdimensionally speaking, that 'farther' places, but it's like taking a car to get to the end of your driveway..Indeed. some Rift events may simply be moving people between very similar Earths, the differences of which the travellers never know about(this idea is explored somewhat in the online cartoon 'Starslipt Crisis')....It's sort of like going through boxes and boxes and crates and shipping containers of the same paperbook book, and not realizing that everyone of them has a spelling error somewhere in them, or a missing page....THe sorter sees the book with a red cover inserted in boxes of blue-ones first...

Anywaayyyyyssss....PS would be a company in a world line where civilization on the East Coast is making a bit more of a comeback, global trade is restarting, and, perhaps most importantly, a few years back the Splugorth got SMACKED rather hard by somebody...the result being a mass exodus of slaves from Atlantis, the loss of several Splugorth outposts(the Brits have taken advantage of the Splugs' moment of weakness to blitz the site of Old London, among others), and the imposition of what amounts to a hand's off threat to the Splugorth if they meddle in continental affairs again...
So several million ex-slaves are loose on Earth, most of them trying to get odfworld, but some settling on Earth, and some of those wanting some payback on Splynn...Incidentally, the local markets have seen a spike in Atlantis-origin technology and artifacts, many of the escaping slaves being smart enough to loot the manors of their owners of anything of value, and others perfectly willing to sell Splugorth secrets and technology....
The Splugorth are reeling, but not down....Splynncryth's been humiliated, and he's hurt...and the party that smacked him down did it in particularly humiliating style...But he hasn't heard from them in a while, so he's beginning to wonder if just MAYBE the whole treaty was bluff following a one-shot defeat....
Like Battletech's Treaty of Tukkayid, the Splugorth are starting to feel around the edges of the treaty and see if there's a loophole, or a major breach...They're rebuilding their strength, and hitting out of the way places not covered by the treaty...
Of course, in the meantime, the nations formerly terrorized by the Splugorth have been busy as well, re-arming, gathering strength, exploring for new resources and allies, and trading like mad...
Paladin Steel is one of those new trade powers, and they've also been quick to pick the minds and swag-bags of the refugees, copying technology that's come second- and third-hand from Atlantis, and recruiting former factory slaves to work for them....

There's more, but that will do for now...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:05 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:and I am sure it will be great as well

Thanks...I guess the pressure's on now?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:08 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:And here I keep thinking there is not much to see at the movies. Or at least I don't pay very much attention to what is out and coming out.

Lot of good movies...most just straightout popcorn-fare..'Iron Man', 'Incredible Hulk', 'Speed Racer', 'Wall-E',
For a thinking movie, there's the Russian film 'Mongol' about Ghenghis Khan--supposed to be great cinematography

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:12 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Hmm, I rather like this. I may consider this for the one tale I have in my mind as I have given some of the characters Pilot: Hovercraft (Ground).

I always think of the example given in the original RMB of the CS surprising the arms dealer in his hovercraft...everything else is stated in the book, but there are no decent (or ANY) hovercraft suitable for an arms dealer(ie, large enough with cargo capacity), so there's a glaring need for ground effect and 'hover' vehicles in Rifts beyond hovercycles and the big APCs/transports...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:15 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:I'm tempted to have some of these patrol the Skukhyll, the Delaware, Allegheny and other rivers in PA.

You got mercs? A kingdom to protect? Feel free to use the boats...If you give good testimonials, our agents just may make you a deal on your future PS purchases!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:20 pm

Ah, but I still see holes in the product lines...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:21 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Isn't there at least one catalog book in Rifts? Part of me is thinking of the one Naruni book especially.

Naruni, yes...but nothing as formal for anybody else...

abtex · Unread post by **abtex** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:30 am

I like going to Dark Roasted Blend site, instead.
The info is better than the Drak one

I think the linkto some ideas for a WW1-era 'battleball' is.

On a side note can PS do anything with Grab-it Pack just pictures of it caught my eye.

rat_bastard · Unread post by **rat_bastard** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:01 am

mega yurt!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:27 pm

rat_bastard wrote:mega yurt!

Mongols with stealth technology...now THERE'S a frightening picture...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:36 pm

MercTown needs an annual Martial Olympics...Show off your military hardware in events like the Tank-in-Mud Tractor Pull, and the Power Armor Obstacle Course("How many feet of concrete can you bash through in 30 seconds?")

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:39 pm

LordVarandus wrote:Cool idea, I like both models however I do think the plexiglass enclosing the post positions is a bit much for a collapsible structure. adds to the complexity of construction and other than keeping the elements off the soldier with in FEArmor is not necessarily needed. The structure of the tower should provide defense..but plexiglass fully enclosing the top where historically the soldiers in towers liked to have open for flexibility in their range of fire, rather than some plexiglass structure limiting where they can shoot from, or drawing them over to a firing port to put their guns through and thusly making them a predictable target for snipers. i just don't see a light Plexiglases being protective enough to warrant limiting the soldiers arch of fire with his weapons. small portable and detachable Plexiglas or metallic bullet shields could be a useful option but should be left as an option.

as a soldier id like to have the option of hopping out of the tower when the mortar round comes whizzing down on me..and not have to worry about smashing through some light MD glass, but rather just leap over my small defensive battlement and take a fall rather then a 80lb morter hit to my upper body. Pluse I think the loss of the glass just makes it more....like a actual piece of field equipment quick simple and dirty. just my opinions and observations.

Consider the windows pop-down/out for fast shooting out/escaping...
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taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:40 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:I wonder if they have models that can be camouflaged as fake trees?

Could be, depending on the surrounding trees and your camouflage skill.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:43 pm

EASILY...you're talking about the equivalent of a flying freight train car(or an old Soviet armed hover landing craft)...A Wolfen or six could fit easily in the cabin...It's meant for big burley truckers and augments behind the wheel....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:49 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Oh they got territory to protect alright. The wolfen rulers of Pennsylvania have a rather strict "No Humans" policy for Pennsylvania and Southern Jersey that this would be perfect for.

Fortunately, PS has a racially tolerant society...they don't necessarily LIKE selling to specist societies, but as long as people mind their own business and don't go out to hurt other people because of the shape of their skin, PS will try to tailor the marketing to make the customer comfortable....And we got enough animaloid non-humans that we can have the appropriate sales-rep for the job. Besides, I imagine the Wolfen would have their hands full dealing with Shemarrians and the Splugorth that PS will see selling to them as effectively securing the GNE's far southern flank...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:01 pm

abtex wrote:
On a side note can PS do anything with Grab-it Pack just pictures of it caught my eye.

Likely already have a 'universal webbing' system to fit the multi-species services in the GNE...Don't have the half-nekkid lady appearing in our ads, yet...Being descended mostly from prudish and puritanicalNew Englanders, the PS/GNErs haven't yet gotten around to the 'sex sells' schtick just yet....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:04 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:considering how heavy it's supposed to be in that you need to be a cyborg to heft it I suppose some folks might make a sport of turning people into so much chuck roast. It just suggests to me that 'borg involved has some serious cyberpsychosis issues.

Define 'sanity' on Rifts Earth---If you're sane, you don't go wandering around after dark, you don't go unarmed or unarmored, don't live alone, and don't stop shooting until the target is either not moving and separated into several chunks, the clip is empty(in which case, immediately reload, or you're certain you've put several miles between you and the target...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:06 pm

Haven't seen any of them yet, but the summer's still young...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:08 pm

I'll get on it...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:58 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Especially for the Romans and anyone else they might prey on.

Huns with Guns

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:03 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:
taalismn wrote:
PhelanMahoney wrote:Oh they got territory to protect alright. The wolfen rulers of Pennsylvania have a rather strict "No Humans" policy for Pennsylvania and Southern Jersey that this would be perfect for.

Fortunately, PS has a racially tolerant society...they don't necessarily LIKE selling to specist societies, but as long as people mind their own business and don't go out to hurt other people because of the shape of their skin, PS will try to tailor the marketing to make the customer comfortable....And we got enough animaloid non-humans that we can have the appropriate sales-rep for the job. Besides, I imagine the Wolfen would have their hands full dealing with Shemarrians and the Splugorth that PS will see selling to them as effectively securing the GNE's far southern flank...

You can blame the CS for the policy. If the society you represent is really racially tolerant there can be exceptions made. But you are going to be compared against CS, for racial tolerance. For instance there is a mobile island in the Underseas book that would be welcome in PA if they wanted to come and visit.

Some of the major members of our society are Ogres, Elves, and Dwarves...There's the Windaro, who look like giant furred lizards with air sacs on their backs, there's the Chai-Chuks, who look like hyperactive beavers...The entire 4th Army consists of ex-Slugorth slaves who are itching for payback against slavers on ground of their own choosing...Many of the soldiers bear the disfiguring marks of biowizardry...in some cases, so much so that it's hard to tell WHAT species they were originally...and we got full conversion cyborgs...and it could be ANYBODY inside all that armor...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:07 pm

We're working on it....But the Blind Warrior Women refugees catch on fast, and started demanding hazard pay/ogling fees for the fan service...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:08 pm

They share fleas? :angel:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:10 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Heh, sanity can be relative. But unless you're a cyborg planning to go dinosaur hunting I really don't see this as anything but a military ornament.

Or a real conversation stopper

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:11 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Oh there are folks with some skill at camouflage in the area I am thinking of using them. They are planned to be used to watch for the CS and other groups of humans.

Eastern Pennsylvania? :wink:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:33 pm

The elves in the GNE are sort of landed gentry who have invested in the dwarven mill towns and industrial works that merged with Paladin Steel...As PS and the GNE rise in prosperity, some of the old families switch places...the Dwarves establishing country manors(with some rather impressive wine cellars and basements) and some elves becoming Silicon Valley-style technocrats and gizmoheads......Paladin Steel West, in Old Washington Satte, has many more Dwarves as part of the Rocky Mountains/Cascades tribes...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:35 pm

And it's a real peace/piece-maker in barroom brawls...

Expect some strongman bartenders to be packing one of these sewer-pipes under the counter(they charge you or your survivors for the wall you got blown through).....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:38 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:Throughout PA and in NJ as well. Which reminds me I should do need to do some research and possible write up that thing in the pine barrens.

"Besides humans, we don't tolerate that 'Which exit?' joke either."

The MAN going to have any political connections to the Achilles Republic?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:40 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:All of a sudden I am reminded of a segment on one of the video shows back in the 90's that featured a jacakalope. "Fast as fast can be! You can't catch me!"

You don't WANT to catch a PS Jackalope...if it comes to turning and fighting....It can fight...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:43 pm

(Cyborg staggers out of the exercise ground, utterly redone in paint spatter)
"Why's ever'body picking on MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE???????!!!!"

batlchip · Unread post by **batlchip** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:18 am

Hmmm...would it be crazy to have one of my characters carry two of them.She is a demigod. :wink:

Arnie100 · Unread post by **Arnie100** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:28 am

Hey, taalismn, maybe you should do a write up an 80mm sniper rifle! just for fun, of course!

abtex · Unread post by **abtex** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 1:28 pm

Do you think that they could help PS sale, pre WW2 Tracked Beer Kegs like to one you found on Dark Roasted Blend, re-created with up-to-date tech?

What's wrong with an 'universal webbing' armor system using Atlas-Weave? The Grab-it part is not the wearer, but the pack on their hips. It's hard to find but it there. Check to the other 21? pictures in the gallery, the 6 or 8 in the bottom cornter it's hard to see the pack, but I think there one there.

abtex · Unread post by **abtex** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:16 pm

A new idea again, Jumping Jack spotting tower the writer of the page does not like this concept.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:39 pm

Arnie100 wrote:Hey, taalismn, maybe you should do a write up an 80mm sniper rifle! just for fun, of course!

Hell...I'm going for 88mm...True, only a Russian Assault Cyborg could tote one of them, but the POWER!!!
'Don't snipe infantrymen! Snipe Tanks! Snipe Dragons!"

Maybe call it a Rommel 88mm Desert-Shot.

Of course, the silencer would be the length of the barrel, again....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:47 pm

PhelanMahoney wrote:
taalismn wrote:
PhelanMahoney wrote:Throughout PA and in NJ as well. Which reminds me I should do need to do some research and possible write up that thing in the pine barrens.

"Besides humans, we don't tolerate that 'Which exit?' joke either."

The MAN going to have any political connections to the Achilles Republic?

Not sure if I heard the Which Exit joke. l

Guess that Saturday Night Live gag has actually faded(much to the relief of the New Jersey Tourism Board)...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:55 pm

abtex wrote:A new idea again, Jumping Jack spotting tower the writer of the page does not like this concept.

Even after the war, the US military was toying with the idea of jet-powered or one-man rotor-lofted 'Pogo Sticks' with much the same idea....THis is one idea I CANNOT see being made practical with post-Rifts tech and magic(though I can see an actual rocket-powered or magic-enhanced pogo-stick being a favorite unorthodox transportation device for a Crazy)....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:58 pm

Yeah...woven Atlas-Weave would make for a tough harness that could be used as climbing gear in a pinch....
Commando Harness would also have a retractable single strand for use as a wire blade and garrote/decapitation weapon...

Good thinking there...plus using my older material to good advantage... :ok: