dual psi swords?? help

[drewkitty ~..~]

Cyber-Knight are unique in that they combine their inner spirit (PPE) and their inner willpower (ISP) to make their "psi-sword" thus creating dose not 'cost' them any ISP, and its an instant on.

they are also unique in the seance that they are the only class that can have two psi-swords made at the same time. however, the psi-swords are the CK insta on, lower damage type.

[King Chopper]

Pick up SOT 4, its all Cyber-Knights, all the time. That and it fills in what RUE left out.

[drewkitty ~..~]

the PSI power psi sword (not the CK one) is only avalible at 3rd level, and since is a super Psi, is only avalible to Master Psi's. (Mind Master, Mind Mage, mind Melter, etc...)

I have most of the books and I have not seen any other Master PSI class explicitly given the ability to make two psi swords at the same time, as with Cyber Knights. Having said said that, nether has the ability been explicitly denied a master Psi class.

This topic has ben discused before. whether or not other Master Psi's could make two PS's was not discussed but what was sort of agreed apone was that if a CK chose the Psi power Psi Sword at thrid level, then the CK could make one Psi PS and one CK PS, but the CK has to spend the time and ISP to make the Psi PS. Even for a CK, the Psi PS follows the rules set down in that power.

[drewkitty ~..~]

un like with DND,which changes it's game format every so often, PB just makes updates.

You can rule that he has to play a RMB CK, or a SOT: 4 CK, or a RUE CK, and they'd all work out fine.

But SOT4 has the most background information about CKs.

[Mouser13]

Question here is of your personal play/gm style. Has far has a know the only information we have is the netron beast being able to create more then one. So you have two ways of looking at that information.

1. That this is special power of the netron beast and know one else can do it.
2. The author just wanted the make sure the gm knows you can make multiple blades one in each hand one at a time, but anyone can do it.

Well, I used to think #1 was the right answer, but recently a have changed and would think #2 is correct. Reason authors tend to add extra information to try and make things more usable.


The way I go with things like this is a say to the players that I will allow it but you are opening a can a worms. If you can do it. I can has well and I have move for the megaverse at my command.

[Talavar]

Question here is of your personal play/gm style. Has far has a know the only information we have is the netron beast being able to create more then one. So you have two ways of looking at that information.

1. That this is special power of the netron beast and know one else can do it.
2. The author just wanted the make sure the gm knows you can make multiple blades one in each hand one at a time, but anyone can do it.

Well, I used to think #1 was the right answer, but recently a have changed and would think #2 is correct. Reason authors tend to add extra information to try and make things more usable.


The way I go with things like this is a say to the players that I will allow it but you are opening a can a worms. If you can do it. I can has well and I have move for the megaverse at my command.

Actually, the neutron beast isn't alone in this - vampire intelligences, xiticix queens, and a few other things can make a psi-sword for every arm/tentacle. Generally if something has the psi-sword power and multiple, dextrous limbs, there's a note about them being able to make multiple psi-swords.

As a GM, I also let players make 2 psi-swords if they want to, but each takes the full ISP cost and the full creation time, so it's not unbalancing.

[NMI]

I believe one of the native american OCC's can create multiple psi-weapons at a time.

[Rimmerdal]

Psychic Martial Artists would likely be able to as well.

[Talavar]

As with any other rule it is up to the GM to decide. But as palladium states in their psionics FAQ only the cyber knight is able to create two psi swords.

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/questions/psionic.html

question number 4

Wow, that psionics FAQ is wrong all over the place. Sometimes just out of date, but just plain wrong in lots. As I've mentioned above, a number of things other than cyber-knights are explicitly described as being able to make far more than 2 psi-swords.

[Ahulane]

I don't see how that FAQ is wrong...I mean, really all an OCC is, is an occupation that teaches you skills right? So that means if you want to dual wield Psi-swords then your going to either have to train by yourself and figure out on your own how to do it (which would take forever and a day), or you can go to the guy who already knows how to do it and have him teach you (which only takes 1/2 as long). Saying that something is class specific such as the dual psi-swords that the CK have is not wrong, just that trying to get those skills on your own is going to take you longer to learn than it would for you to just go and learn it from someone who already knows.

Watch some of the newer Naruto episodes where he's trying to create his own technique...he had to start off by doing nature manipulation which takes people years to learn (more if your doing it on your own), shape manipulation, then combining the two. So take that and apply it to trying to learn how to dual wield psi-swords...Hell the Mage Bane OCC said that it took the guy his entire life to develop their class abilities if I remember correctly.

OK so I guess it could be wrong, but I dunno, more like they are just saying that it's restricted to the class because it would take you way to long to figure out the method on your own.

[csyphrett]

Knights are the only ones who can create swords for free unless you can buy the energy blade power which also allows you to get multiple blades.

Every other class that can buy multiple swords has to pay the full price for each blade unless noted.
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[csyphrett]

What goes for one occ doesn't go for every other occ. Cyberknights are stated as being able to create more than one psi sword with a limit on when to get it, and the sword is free.

Vampire intelligences, nueron beasts, and others who can create more than one psi blade pay full cost for each blade and since most of these have thousands of ISP, that's just a petty way to deal with their enemies anyway when they can use mind bolt and pyrokinesis.
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