Lobo wrote:After it fires it would. Also it would pop up on Radar.
It would...for a couple of seconds. After that, it could go invisible again and high tail it out of there. Once Invis/Sup is on it, it's not on radar or any other form of detection.
Ok so I am guessing you are not saying it's standing in an 11 foot tall pile of leaves LOL but rather that it's standing among some big brush like trees or tall bushes. So if it did that then when I said the Boom would cause a massive shaking of nearby debris and trees that would only be made worse because it's standing in them. Trust me I have been around large cannons firing from concealed woodland areas, once they fire once there is no more concealment and the massive movement of the surrounding vegetation and the cloud of dust kicked up will mark that area for a good 10-15 seconds.
The most I've experienced with the big stuff is video. *shrug* It'd cause shaking - that's stipulated - but it wouldn't cause it for all that long and not so much as to be easily seen at two miles.
1. Takes time and the movement caused by the sonic boom would easily draw people's peripheral vision to the area before they could finish.
2. The spell description states the spell drops the instant a hostile action is initiated (pulled the trigger) therefore the spell would be down before the boom.
I suppose it could be radio activated - that'd prevent the spell from going off as the person inside the armor would not be performing the hostile action. Also, as I said, globe of silence would silence the boom.
Bullets create the loud bang from rapidly expanding/escaping gases leaving the barrel
Correct.
the actual sonic boom from the bullet is usually created somewhere downrange which is why Snipers who want more silence must use what's called sub-sonic ammo(the bullet whizzes along at just under the speed of sound) otherwise the suppressor only limits the sound of the expanding gasses.
I'm aware of this - that's why the MP5SD5 uses sub-sonic 9mm ammo. No idea why they didn't use .45 cal ammo for it, as it's subsonic. That's also why I said that almost all ammo is hypersonic...some isn't. Either way, the sonic boom generated by a small object (say, the flechettes) would be relatively small.
I listed the page number above when I posted my ideal sniper set-up.
The spell might be able to stop the sound but since the TW Silencer states it can't be used on rail guns I would imagine that you can't just enchant a rail gun with globe of silence either. You could add it to the Glitter Boy itself but then there is only a 10' radius and the gun is damn near 10' long by itself. The Boom gun seems to be a different beast than propellant bullets however, from what I have been able to glean is that it achieves the sonic boom speeds right in front of the glitter boy which contributes partly to it's need for stabilization. To me that would probably put at least part of the sonic boom's radius outside the 10' radius of the globe of silence.
The TW silencer said that rail guns cannot be enchanted with it - it doesn't say that the spell globe of silence doesn't work on rail guns. I'm not trying to eliminate the little boom of the flechettes passing through the air, but the big one of them leaving the barrel.
At Mach 5 it would be 1/5th the time of travel as the sound of the BOOM. However the speed of light means that people will see the disruption, shock effect and possibly appearing glitter boy before the round even hits.
I'll tell you what, you have a friend stand two miles away, and you get ten more of your other friends to throw up hands full of flour in the air while ten others shake nearby vegetation, and we'll see if your friend can see it. I'm betting he could not. Now, he'd appear on radar, but in that moment, the radar operator would say, 'What's that?" After that, it'd disappear again. He'd be trying to figure it out while his friends would would then see their friend has been shot. After that, they'd hear and look around.
Peripheral vision easily keys on movement and I guarantee when that sonic boom happens it will look like something exploded right on top of you.
Unlikely.
Here is a video of 155mm howitzers firing. They are accelerating a much more massive projectile that is also much larger in dimensions (thereby causing a greater sonic boom), and you don't even so much as see the grass move.
People's head's will turn and say 'you see tha..' then someone's body will explode in a gory mess and they will all start seeking cover and shouting 'SNIPER! Up over there!" and pointing in your general direction.
Two miles is a long way.
Like I said before speed of light will key people into the area fired from before they can reactivate the spell.
Only if they happen to be looking there with enhanced vision at the time of the firing.
However once it's activated they would have a very good shot at escape unless they were disturbing lots of vegetation on the way out (which means if they were moving at anything faster than 1-2 MPH they would, especially for an 11 foot tall robot). The spell may prevent a lot of things but you are not ethereal as the description states, opening doors, slapping branches aside, running through bushes would all reveal your position according to the description, you would not reappear but people could say 'hey who opened that door' or 'look at all those bushes and branches move'.
Again, the bot has been painted - it also would have invis superior reactivated. It'd be getting out of that bunch of vegetation at about 30mph. Once out, it'd move at or near 60mph. And he'd be two miles away when he started running. You seem to think people have the most incredible vision ever heard of. "Hey - look there...a mile and a half away! It's Joey!"
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I grant you the invis would make it harder to track you but if you were foolish and just started running off at 60MPH in a forested area you would leave a trail to find you. Not foot prints but broken branches, small knocked over trees and torn up brush would be seen(remember you're not ethereal). Once your general area is pinned down see invis will reveal you or your invis will just run out before you can get out of the area(you won't have endless PPE/ISP to power it).
Subjugator wrote:Snipers avoid this by being undetected even after the shot. Until you can overcome all the glaring faults that make a Glitter Boy and it's gun very detectable, they make lousy snipers. Great Fire support and 'dedicated marksman' but terrible snipers.
By your definition, our current snipers are lousy, since they are detectable by thermal imaging, do not use silent weaponry, and are slow to escape after firing. The GB doesn't have most of those weaknesses.
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I am not sure who you mean by "our current snipers". If you meant the one I posted, it has a very low % chance of being detected by thermal, used silent weapons, and unless you can teleport/phase/shape change there really is no fast way to escape(not even invis unless you had invis and flight). The goal is to go undetected after the shot so they have to search in a area that covers square miles not yards. That way you can creep back out of the huge search area. Something you can't do if they can pinpoint your general area.
You're also stating that you GB would be in forested cover but 2 miles away from your target. That's a very ideal shooting situation where you are under cover of forest but your target is out in the open (no buildings, hills, valleys or forested area to get in your way). No way can you be 2 miles away and still get a clear shot at someone in a natural forest. Your basketball sized cloud of flechettes would have to have to obliterate a lot of foliage along the way (revealing your general locale). Most forested shots like that would be 1/10 to 1/4 that distance. And then the sniper would have to creep along his shot path to clear a field of fire with some clippers, cutting branches and bushes and the like. I'd hate to have to think how much you'd have to clear to cover 2 miles LOL. Your target must be glued to the ground if he never moves in the time it would take you to clear that much foliage haha or you're out there with a giant silenced chain saw felling trees and cutting swathes through underbrush without notice haha.
You have come up with lots of ways to make a glitter boy harder to detect but the whole sonic boom disturbing the area around you is still a dead giveaway. I have included a link to a video of a tank firing. It kicks up a huge cloud of dust that takes about 10-15 seconds to dissipate (which was right on with how I remembered it haha).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42t4FBJMvp4&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%3Fp%3Dtank%2Bfiring%26fr%3Dyfp-t-501%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8&feature=player_embedded[/quote]
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I can see an illustration of that nearly every time I come here.