T-men with bio-wizardry

Diabolists, Techno-Wizards & Psionicists, Oh my! All things that are Magics and Psionics in all Palladium Games.

Moderators: Immortals, Supreme Beings, Old Ones

lordwind
D-Bee
Posts: 28
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:07 pm
Location: Lost on the road to nowhere

T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by lordwind »

Can T-men get bio-wizard enhanced?

If they can what are the restrictions.
User avatar
Library Ogre
Palladium Books® Freelance Writer
Posts: 10294
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2001 1:01 am
Comment: My comments do not necessarily represent the views of Palladium Books.
Location: Texas
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Library Ogre »

IMO, yes, they can. There are no particularly limits, though I'd give them problems with anything that results in a carapace. Otherwise, the magic of the tattoo comes up to the top of their skin, no matter what its origin.
-overproduced by Martin Hannett

When I see someone "fisking" these days my first inclination is to think "That person doesn't have much to say, and says it in volume." -John Scalzi
Happiness is a long block list.
If you don't want to be vilified, don't act like a villain.
The Megaverse runs on vibes.
All Palladium Articles
Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
User avatar
dark brandon
Knight
Posts: 4527
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:20 pm
Comment: I want you more when you're afraid of me.
Location: Louisville, KY

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by dark brandon »

Mark Hall wrote:IMO, yes, they can. There are no particularly limits, though I'd give them problems with anything that results in a carapace. Otherwise, the magic of the tattoo comes up to the top of their skin, no matter what its origin.


At this point, I'd think they'd wait till lvl 7 when they don't have to touch tattoos anymore to get carapace's
"We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine And the machine is bleeding to death The sun has fallen down And the billboards are all leering And the flags are all dead at the top of their poles ...I open up my wallet And it's full of blood "~~Godspeed you black emperor.
lordwind
D-Bee
Posts: 28
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:07 pm
Location: Lost on the road to nowhere

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by lordwind »

What bio-wizardry would you suggest for a T-Archer.

I can't see anything that jumps out at me. Thanks.
lordwind
D-Bee
Posts: 28
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:07 pm
Location: Lost on the road to nowhere

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by lordwind »

Another question.
Can t-men get modified by a Gene-Splicer or through eugenics without losing their magic?
User avatar
Ice Dragon
Hero
Posts: 1019
Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2000 2:01 am
Location: Vienna,Austria

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Ice Dragon »

lordwind wrote:Can T-men get bio-wizard enhanced?

If they can what are the restrictions.


Yes, they can :wink:.
It is always a bad thing when political matters are allowed to affect the planning of operations (Field Marshal Erwin Rommel, 1943)

Nelly ~ He's one romantic smooth operator and a true old school gentleman. Heck he's an Austrian officer, it's in his blood.

Co-Holder with Jefffar of the "Lando Calrissian" award for Smooth. - Novastar

10 + 100 Geek Points (Danger + Shawn Merrow)
User avatar
Nekira Sudacne
Monk
Posts: 15599
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:22 pm
Comment: The Munchkin Fairy
Location: 2nd Degree Black Belt of Post Fu
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Nekira Sudacne »

Tattooed men can get any modifications anyone else can.

Why would you assume they could not?
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg

You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
User avatar
drewkitty ~..~
Monk
Posts: 17782
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Eastvale, calif
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by drewkitty ~..~ »

just because T-Men were mentioned... here
Last edited by drewkitty ~..~ on Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
May you be blessed with the ability to change course when you are off the mark.
Each question should be give the canon answer 1st, then you can proclaim your house rules.
Reading and writing (literacy) is how people on BBS interact.
User avatar
csbioborg
Champion
Posts: 2553
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:10 pm
Comment: Lazlo and its supporters talk of Dbee rights. Can you even comprehend the plight of the untold billions of humans evicted from thier homes since their coming? What of their rights?
Location: san diego

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by csbioborg »

Nekira Sudacne wrote:Tattooed men can get any modifications anyone else can.

Why would you assume they could not?


well at zome point biowizardy makes you a sn creature making you no longer human, ogre or elf

so there is an arguement that past that point the tattos would stop working

HU powered heros can't get them for example
I remember days like this when my father took me to the forest and we ate wild blueberries. More than 20 years ago. I was just a boy of four or five. The leaves were so dark and green then. The grass smelled sweet with the spring wind...For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
User avatar
Nekira Sudacne
Monk
Posts: 15599
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:22 pm
Comment: The Munchkin Fairy
Location: 2nd Degree Black Belt of Post Fu
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Nekira Sudacne »

csbioborg wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:Tattooed men can get any modifications anyone else can.

Why would you assume they could not?


well at zome point biowizardy makes you a sn creature making you no longer human, ogre or elf

so there is an arguement that past that point the tattos would stop working

HU powered heros can't get them for example


No, Bio Wizardy never makes you a supernatural creature: you can get MDC and supernatural strength but where did you get supernatural being from?
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg

You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
User avatar
csbioborg
Champion
Posts: 2553
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:10 pm
Comment: Lazlo and its supporters talk of Dbee rights. Can you even comprehend the plight of the untold billions of humans evicted from thier homes since their coming? What of their rights?
Location: san diego

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by csbioborg »

Nekira Sudacne wrote:
csbioborg wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:Tattooed men can get any modifications anyone else can.

Why would you assume they could not?


well at zome point biowizardy makes you a sn creature making you no longer human, ogre or elf

so there is an arguement that past that point the tattos would stop working

HU powered heros can't get them for example


No, Bio Wizardy never makes you a supernatural creature: you can get MDC and supernatural strength but where did you get supernatural being from?



you get dunked in the tank and become a full conversion bioborg which is dunked in the tank and six or more augmentations you are sn
I remember days like this when my father took me to the forest and we ate wild blueberries. More than 20 years ago. I was just a boy of four or five. The leaves were so dark and green then. The grass smelled sweet with the spring wind...For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
User avatar
Nekira Sudacne
Monk
Posts: 15599
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:22 pm
Comment: The Munchkin Fairy
Location: 2nd Degree Black Belt of Post Fu
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Nekira Sudacne »

csbioborg wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
csbioborg wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:Tattooed men can get any modifications anyone else can.

Why would you assume they could not?


well at zome point biowizardy makes you a sn creature making you no longer human, ogre or elf

so there is an arguement that past that point the tattos would stop working

HU powered heros can't get them for example


No, Bio Wizardy never makes you a supernatural creature: you can get MDC and supernatural strength but where did you get supernatural being from?



you get dunked in the tank and become a full conversion bioborg which is dunked in the tank and six or more augmentations you are sn


I reread the section--nowhere does it say you become a supernatural being no matter how many times you get dunked--you begin to mutate but that does not make you a supernatural being.
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg

You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
Mouser13
Megaversal® Ambassador
Posts: 616
Joined: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:46 pm
Location: Omaha, NE

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Mouser13 »

dark brandon wrote:
Mark Hall wrote:IMO, yes, they can. There are no particularly limits, though I'd give them problems with anything that results in a carapace. Otherwise, the magic of the tattoo comes up to the top of their skin, no matter what its origin.


At this point, I'd think they'd wait till lvl 7 when they don't have to touch tattoos anymore to get carapace's


I can't seem to find reference to level 7 to active tattoos without touch? YOu know what book or page number?
User avatar
csbioborg
Champion
Posts: 2553
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:10 pm
Comment: Lazlo and its supporters talk of Dbee rights. Can you even comprehend the plight of the untold billions of humans evicted from thier homes since their coming? What of their rights?
Location: san diego

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by csbioborg »

Nekira Sudacne wrote:
csbioborg wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
csbioborg wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:Tattooed men can get any modifications anyone else can.

Why would you assume they could not?


well at zome point biowizardy makes you a sn creature making you no longer human, ogre or elf

so there is an arguement that past that point the tattos would stop working

HU powered heros can't get them for example


No, Bio Wizardy never makes you a supernatural creature: you can get MDC and supernatural strength but where did you get supernatural being from?



you get dunked in the tank and become a full conversion bioborg which is dunked in the tank and six or more augmentations you are sn


I reread the section--nowhere does it say you become a supernatural being no matter how many times you get dunked--you begin to mutate but that does not make you a supernatural being.



its been a bit but did you read the bioborg occ
I think it says that in Splynn book
of course there is the whole issue of multi classing here that seems to have been avoided
wouldn't your level get frozen as a t man
I remember days like this when my father took me to the forest and we ate wild blueberries. More than 20 years ago. I was just a boy of four or five. The leaves were so dark and green then. The grass smelled sweet with the spring wind...For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.
User avatar
dark brandon
Knight
Posts: 4527
Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2003 10:20 pm
Comment: I want you more when you're afraid of me.
Location: Louisville, KY

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by dark brandon »

Mouser13 wrote:I can't seem to find reference to level 7 to active tattoos without touch? YOu know what book or page number?


Pg 84/88 80-something...I forget, and the book it WAY over on the other side of the room.

It's under activate of tattoos.
"We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine And the machine is bleeding to death The sun has fallen down And the billboards are all leering And the flags are all dead at the top of their poles ...I open up my wallet And it's full of blood "~~Godspeed you black emperor.
User avatar
Library Ogre
Palladium Books® Freelance Writer
Posts: 10294
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2001 1:01 am
Comment: My comments do not necessarily represent the views of Palladium Books.
Location: Texas
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Library Ogre »

wolfen wrote:Not all T-men can't get biowizardy example of this is the undead slayer because it states it in #5 of their abilities CANNOT BE PHYSICALLY TRANSFORMED BY ANY MEANS.


Yes, but that's because they're True Atlanteans. Most of the other t-men (Tattooed Men, T-maxi Men, and T-Monster Men) are not True Atlanteans, and are therefore vulnerable to bio-wizardry.
-overproduced by Martin Hannett

When I see someone "fisking" these days my first inclination is to think "That person doesn't have much to say, and says it in volume." -John Scalzi
Happiness is a long block list.
If you don't want to be vilified, don't act like a villain.
The Megaverse runs on vibes.
All Palladium Articles
Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
User avatar
Nekira Sudacne
Monk
Posts: 15599
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:22 pm
Comment: The Munchkin Fairy
Location: 2nd Degree Black Belt of Post Fu
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Nekira Sudacne »

wolfen wrote:Not all T-men can't get biowizardy example of this is the undead slayer because it states it in #5 of their abilities CANNOT BE PHYSICALLY TRANSFORMED BY ANY MEANS.


Dosn't mean they can't be biowizard modified. They can't be transformed that dosn't mean they can't be changed.
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg

You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
User avatar
Library Ogre
Palladium Books® Freelance Writer
Posts: 10294
Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2001 1:01 am
Comment: My comments do not necessarily represent the views of Palladium Books.
Location: Texas
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Library Ogre »

Nekira Sudacne wrote:
wolfen wrote:Not all T-men can't get biowizardy example of this is the undead slayer because it states it in #5 of their abilities CANNOT BE PHYSICALLY TRANSFORMED BY ANY MEANS.


Dosn't mean they can't be biowizard modified. They can't be transformed that dosn't mean they can't be changed.


We've had this argument before. Suffice it to say, you are using definitions of these words that do not coincide with the rest of the English speaking world.
-overproduced by Martin Hannett

When I see someone "fisking" these days my first inclination is to think "That person doesn't have much to say, and says it in volume." -John Scalzi
Happiness is a long block list.
If you don't want to be vilified, don't act like a villain.
The Megaverse runs on vibes.
All Palladium Articles
Mutant Dawn for Savage Worlds!
User avatar
Nekira Sudacne
Monk
Posts: 15599
Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:22 pm
Comment: The Munchkin Fairy
Location: 2nd Degree Black Belt of Post Fu
Contact:

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Nekira Sudacne »

Mark Hall wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
wolfen wrote:Not all T-men can't get biowizardy example of this is the undead slayer because it states it in #5 of their abilities CANNOT BE PHYSICALLY TRANSFORMED BY ANY MEANS.


Dosn't mean they can't be biowizard modified. They can't be transformed that dosn't mean they can't be changed.


We've had this argument before. Suffice it to say, you are using definitions of these words that do not coincide with the rest of the English speaking world.


No, i'm stating that the terminology is being taken too littearlly, not that definitons are incorrect.
Sometimes, you're like a beacon of light in the darkness, giving me some hope for humankind. ~ Killer Cyborg

You can have something done good, fast and cheap. If you want it done good and fast, it's not going to be cheap. If you want it done fast and cheap it won't be good. If you want something done good and cheap it won't be done fast. ~ Dark Brandon
lordwind
D-Bee
Posts: 28
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:07 pm
Location: Lost on the road to nowhere

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by lordwind »

I'm not asking about True Atlantians, I'm asking regarding human,ogre,and elf tattoo men.

Sorry did not mean to cause a big debate about TA's.
User avatar
Tinker Dragoon
Supreme Being
Posts: 2433
Joined: Sun Nov 25, 2001 2:01 am
Location: On the threshold of a dream

Re: T-men with bio-wizardry

Unread post by Tinker Dragoon »

lordwind wrote:I'm not asking about True Atlantians, I'm asking regarding human,ogre,and elf tattoo men.

Sorry did not mean to cause a big debate about TA's.


Topic drift is inevitable; it's not your fault. :bandit:

FWIW, the Gun Brothers in the Phase World Sourcebook employ both bio-wizardry and tattoo magic (although they are not true T-Men; those who use magic tattoos normally only have 3-6).
There you go man, keep as cool as you can.
Face piles of trials with smiles. It riles
them to believe that you perceive the web they weave
and keep on thinking free.

-- The Moody Blues, In the Beginning
Locked

Return to “Guild of Magic & Psionics”