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Most effective weapon?
So in your opinion, what is the most effective weapon against zombies?
Personally, I think the machete is best suited for zombie slashing.
Personally, I think the machete is best suited for zombie slashing.
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Bo-Staff - 2D46 (10D10-8). Awesome, just awesome.
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ICHIBAN11 wrote:Machine gun. So long as the ammo holds out. You can fire it from a distance.
Ok, I give up. How do you fire it from a distance? Tie a string around the trigger? Or do you have a high-tech mount on one of your vehicles that allows it to be remotely fired? Also, why is this really a good option, and how do you aim a weapon from a distance?
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So a Machine-gun "fires at a distance" unlike say, a Bo-Staff that "fires at melee range"?
By the way, Bo-Staff still outdoes the Machin-gun for damage. Win.
By the way, Bo-Staff still outdoes the Machin-gun for damage. Win.
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filo_clarke wrote:So a Machine-gun "fires at a distance" unlike say, a Bo-Staff that "fires at melee range"?
By the way, Bo-Staff still outdoes the Machin-gun for damage. Win.
Typo for the loose.
Trust me when i say that a Heckler & Koch HK-21E is a headshot machine fur as long as you have ammo. that and if you use the zombies own instincts against them you can end up shooting a few and then drawing them into a really nasty boobytrap that will kill thousands of Zombies. Think of what happens when you rig a skyscraper to blow out it's base and then attract a swarm of zombies into it while you hangglide out of the place.
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I use a short sword. Drive by slicing from a duel sport. For range work I use a HK UMP 45 and a HK mark 23 for a side arm
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Leon Kennedy wrote:Rockwolf66 wrote:filo_clarke wrote:Typo for the loose.
Second typo for the LOSE.
Intelligence is still the best weapon we have against them. How many shamblers do you see sitting around a campfire planning how to take us out?
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Where's my battle rifle option? Perhaps just a hunting rifle? I'd love to get my hands on an HK-91 for Palladium zombie purposes. If we were dealing with more real-world damage and penetration values, then something lighter, like the widely regarded .30 M1 Carbine, or even a good semi-automatic .22 LR with a large magazine capacity would be ideal.
If ammo is at a remotely tolerable level, those are by far my first picks.
For a long slog up close and personal, a good titanium crowbar is hard to beat, perhaps with a hand axe for back-up.
If ammo is at a remotely tolerable level, those are by far my first picks.
For a long slog up close and personal, a good titanium crowbar is hard to beat, perhaps with a hand axe for back-up.
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my .303 enfield rifle for range (kripse I love that stupid thing)
a couple of high yield glocks for backup.
titanium crowbar for close up
entrenching tool as close up backup.
a couple of propane canisters with detonators and tape decks of screaming for trapping
a couple of high yield glocks for backup.
titanium crowbar for close up
entrenching tool as close up backup.
a couple of propane canisters with detonators and tape decks of screaming for trapping
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J. Lionheart wrote:Where's my battle rifle option? Perhaps just a hunting rifle? I'd love to get my hands on an HK-91 for Palladium zombie purposes. If we were dealing with more real-world damage and penetration values, then something lighter, like the widely regarded .30 M1 Carbine, or even a good semi-automatic .22 LR with a large magazine capacity would be ideal.
Agreed. Myself, while I own a converted .308 Saiga, if I were fighting zombies, I'd probably use either my Hi-Point 9mm carbine or my Marlin Papoose. Neither of those two match the Saiga in terms of the damage they'd inflict on a torso or limb shot, but when it comes to penetrating the skull and messing up the brains, they'll suffice. Moreover, both the 9mm carbine and the .22 rifle are lightweight, easy to maneuver, head shot accurate out to 100 yards, and easy to find ammo for. In an urban environment, that's a tough combination to beat.
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No one chooses aluminum bats? i mean granted unless you get a real good hit on the zombies, it won't do much, but i'm not in the mood for combat, i just want to hit and run, especially if i'm trying to get the heck outta there!!!
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I voted Machine gun, because rifles were missing. Machine guns, in Dead Reign, are actually a good option. Shred the body, they fall in a coma, and then you just need to clean up.
But my favorite gun to use in Dead Reign is a .50 Caliber Rifle. Shoot the head, it is GONE!!!
Now real life, best is the .22 rifle, and either a crowbar or Katana. Plenty of ammo, and destruction of grey matter.
But my favorite gun to use in Dead Reign is a .50 Caliber Rifle. Shoot the head, it is GONE!!!
Now real life, best is the .22 rifle, and either a crowbar or Katana. Plenty of ammo, and destruction of grey matter.
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Good luck in finding a .50 caliber rifle! You don't find too many of those in the average gun store! You're best bet for a rifle would be something in a common caliber, like .223, .308, 30-30 or even 30-06.
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Arnie100 wrote:Good luck in finding a .50 caliber rifle! You don't find too many of those in the average gun store! You're best bet for a rifle would be something in a common caliber, like .223, .308, 30-30 or even 30-06.
Before the idiots in my state government added them to the "Evil Assault Weapon" list. My local gunshop would keep three of them in stock and they would sell often enough to keep stocking them. It al depends on what part of the country you live in. Then again those were single shot rifles and not repeaters.
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Rockwolf66 wrote:Arnie100 wrote:Good luck in finding a .50 caliber rifle! You don't find too many of those in the average gun store! You're best bet for a rifle would be something in a common caliber, like .223, .308, 30-30 or even 30-06.
Before the idiots in my state government added them to the "Evil Assault Weapon" list. My local gunshop would keep three of them in stock and they would sell often enough to keep stocking them. It al depends on what part of the country you live in. Then again those were single shot rifles and not repeaters.
I have a friend who would love nothing more than to get his hands on one. Thankfully he can't. Knowing him he'd be shooting anyone who got him upset (the list is long).
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Arnie100 wrote::shock: Me? I live in California...
So do I. it's the adding them to the states idiotic "Assault weapon" ban is why you don't see them around anymore. heck the law was never about controling crime but so that the idiots in congress could remove those "scary" looking Semi-automatic weapons from the hands of the people they are supost to be serving.
Back to the real topic. We are having a best gun for a zombie outbreak on the IMFDB and basically a lightweight magazine fed semi-automatic rifle is what most people are going with.
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A dozer blade attached to a track vehicle where the crew compartment has been armored and can be combat locked from the inside. Heck, just the tracks are a win button.
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I should have thought of this since my parents grow hay.
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Leon Kennedy wrote:
These things turn like a dead whale on roller skates. How is this the best weapon against the shamblers?
I still say intelligence. Brainpower is always better than sheer force.
They can be sped up. And the use of any tool or machine is the result of intelligence. Or in this case, the intelligent use of brute force for the win.
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For anyone saying intelligence is the best weapon... When we are trapped in hallway dead end with 8 to 10 zeds coming at us, you can throw some riddles at them, while I riddle them with bullets. Seriously though why the heck would you ever go hand to hand unless there was no choice? Guns for the win!
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Chainsaw anyone???
Chainsaw + shotgun? Sorry, picturing Army of Darkness.
I'd frankly go in for machinegun, plus hand grenades plus motorcycle. Open up on them from a distance, if they are primarily coming in from a single front keep it up till they are at closer range, then toss a few hand grenades, boggie out on the motorcycle till you are at a good distance (or until they really start to close the circle if coming from multiple directions) and then rinse and repeat.
Alternately if a group of reavers, set a trap by the docks of a port city. Sail a boat near the docks, off load a small group of reavers to attract a whole crap load of zombies to the docks, then hop on a dingy to get back to the boat. Then blaze away from the relative safety of the boat...just don't drop anchor!
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Chainsaw + shotgun? Sorry, picturing Army of Darkness.
I'd frankly go in for machinegun, plus hand grenades plus motorcycle. Open up on them from a distance, if they are primarily coming in from a single front keep it up till they are at closer range, then toss a few hand grenades, boggie out on the motorcycle till you are at a good distance (or until they really start to close the circle if coming from multiple directions) and then rinse and repeat.
Alternately if a group of reavers, set a trap by the docks of a port city. Sail a boat near the docks, off load a small group of reavers to attract a whole crap load of zombies to the docks, then hop on a dingy to get back to the boat. Then blaze away from the relative safety of the boat...just don't drop anchor!
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I finally figured out how to play this game. Shotgun, point-blank, neck. works almost everytime... since shooting them in the head is pointless. But I agree that a chainsaw and point-blank would work too. The only problem is the noise, so have on some good running shoes.
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MaxxSterling wrote:I finally figured out how to play this game. Shotgun, point-blank, neck. works almost everytime... since shooting them in the head is pointless. But I agree that a chainsaw and point-blank would work too. The only problem is the noise, so have on some good running shoes.
You don't need great running shoes. Just like the joke about being in the woods with your friend and a bear, you only need better running shoes then your fellow PCs
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I want to see the stats for one of those tree clearing machines, you know the kind with the massive circular saws on the backhoe like arm? Drive one of those right through a crowd of zombies after reinforcing the cab.
Good instant escape plan, at least in the 'burbs is a contractor grade battery powered circular saw. Run in to a dead end, just slice right through the wall right quick. Great for removing zombie limbs and heads as well. Course a chain saw might work just about as well at the wall removal. Course neither would be great in a city with all of the concrete and cinder block construction.
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Good instant escape plan, at least in the 'burbs is a contractor grade battery powered circular saw. Run in to a dead end, just slice right through the wall right quick. Great for removing zombie limbs and heads as well. Course a chain saw might work just about as well at the wall removal. Course neither would be great in a city with all of the concrete and cinder block construction.
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I live in houstonArnie100 wrote:Good luck in finding a .50 caliber rifle! You don't find too many of those in the average gun store! You're best bet for a rifle would be something in a common caliber, like .223, .308, 30-30 or even 30-06.
theres three that I know of in out of 10 gunstores that have them around me.*
I also know someone who can custom build them but thats just out of pure dumb luck.
and Ironicaly you would probably be better off with a semi auto/pump shotgun than anything that can fire a .50 bmg, especialy if you can get a clip loader.
Ironicaly most of the stores I mentioned could get their hands on various versions of the Saiga 12 with a 10 round mag, some of them can even get the 20 round mag for you within 48 hours.
* they are for demonstration use only, bascialy they want to make dang sure you know what your in for when you order one. I had our entire game group test fire them a while back.
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I vote a high powered pistol rifle, with a crowbar bayonet, and an under barrel shotgun.
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semi-automatic rifle
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Sunu wrote:If things get really bad a good firearm to fall back on is a black powder guns, the bullet is a slow moving and a heavy round. This is a perfect type of round for taking down zombies.
I know they are slow to reload but the lvl of tech needed to make them is fairly low, and all the modern bullets that are out there will run out sooner or later. Plus you can make black powder from common elements found in nature.
Sure someday, but considering the tens of billions of bullets made, that day is no day soon.
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Where is the magic option?
I vote blunt... yes it should be a backup weapon, but it doesn't dull or run out of ammo.
I like my friend's two man anti-single-shuffler (Yes the lame joke was intended) tactic. One guy with a pitchfork pins them and the other cracks its skull open with a sledge.
I vote blunt... yes it should be a backup weapon, but it doesn't dull or run out of ammo.
I like my friend's two man anti-single-shuffler (Yes the lame joke was intended) tactic. One guy with a pitchfork pins them and the other cracks its skull open with a sledge.
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A nice sharp katana.
Tremendous slicing power, light (relatively), fast, and can keep zeds at a decent distance for a melee weapon (3 feetish), silent. Lots of options with a sword: cut off the head, chop off arms/legs, stab thru the top of the head from above.
Keep a few and don't forget the sharpening stone!
Tremendous slicing power, light (relatively), fast, and can keep zeds at a decent distance for a melee weapon (3 feetish), silent. Lots of options with a sword: cut off the head, chop off arms/legs, stab thru the top of the head from above.
Keep a few and don't forget the sharpening stone!
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No shotgun option, really? Did someone not read Brad Ashley's survival guide?
The mother of all shotguns FTW.
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After my first game I have to say a Semi automatic rifle worked over by a gunsmith is the best anti zombie weapon. Improving the grip, trigger pull and scope and sitting on top of a house that Zombie AR is allot less scary. That and the ammunition is fairly common.
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The Game Master wrote:No shotgun option, really? Did someone not read Brad Ashley's survival guide?
The mother of all shotguns FTW.
Ahh yes, the AAS, lovely piece of work.
There is also the auto shotgun that the Spetznaz (Russian Special Forces) use, and its pretty nice too.
A shotgun, IMHO, is a good last resort weapon, or something best used to clear an escape path.
Unfortunately, they are loud and will attract attention and they have a finite ammo supply. I guess you could use it as a club if your run out of shells, but thats true of almost anything.
A nice sharp sword never runs out of ammo (unless you count your arms getting tired from all the swinging), makes no noise (unless you start having Sci-Fi movie fantasies and "vwing!" with every slice). Only drawback is it does need occasional sharpening.
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I worked for a company that had one of these.
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This will hack through a pack of zombies.
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This will hack through a pack of zombies.
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