Reanimation Is Real?

[Torval]

I just came across some information on the net that I find a little disturbing. Apparently back in the 1930s, the Soviets were conducting experiments to reanimate dead cells. Their choice subject, severed dog heads. Even more scary, they succeeded in resuscitating the heads and could keep them alive for extended periods of time. I have found one video on YouTube so far that seems like genuine archival footage. In the video that I saw the severed but reanimated dog head responded to light, sound, taste and touch.

This is a link to the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSrIkUXwsNk&feature=player_embedded on YouTube that I watched. Keep in mind, I'm at work so I'm just looking around inbetween working. If there are more videos that are easy to find because of the related search then I have not seen them yet.

[Torval]

Just found another article on this subject but alluding to a different video. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,851883-1,00.html

[Torval]

It's getting more and more disturbing the more I look around for more information. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/11/magazine/11ideas_section4-21.html

This one is a link to the movie that the clip above was supposedly taken from. I don't have time to watch it now because I'm at work but I'll check it out tonight. http://www.archive.org/details/Experime1940

[Beatmeclever]

When they smack the hammer next to the dog's head, the head jerks away from the "bang." This would be impossible without the body for the "severed" neck muscles to act against. These vids are fakes!

Cool idea, but fake.

[Torval]

I noticed that too and I was a little skeptical but it looks as if the dog still has some neck muscles left. If so, I think that range of movement might be possible. Also, I watched the entire video that clip was pulled from and they show you them bleeding a dog out, pronouncing it dead and then reanimating it 10 minutes later. I'm not trying to convince people that it is totally real but I am not ready to discredit it, especially since we have an institution in Pittsburgh which is currently killing dogs and reanimating them. I think they are called the Safar Group?

[Shawn Merrow]

Russians have been caught faking this stuff before. I remember watching a documentry on the paranormal where Russia had been blacklisted for putting out to many fakes.

[Beatmeclever]

I noticed that too and I was a little skeptical but it looks as if the dog still has some neck muscles left. If so, I think that range of movement might be possible. Also, I watched the entire video that clip was pulled from and they show you them bleeding a dog out, pronouncing it dead and then reanimating it 10 minutes later. I'm not trying to convince people that it is totally real but I am not ready to discredit it, especially since we have an institution in Pittsburgh which is currently killing dogs and reanimating them. I think they are called the Safar Group?

I AM ready to discredit. Having the muscles is fine, but for the muscles to work they MUST be connected to the skeletal structure near the shoulders. This dog's head was "apparently" severed in the middle of the neck. It's fake!

Experiments in "reanimation" are being done with cryo not necro. These are fake.

[Torval]

I noticed that too and I was a little skeptical but it looks as if the dog still has some neck muscles left. If so, I think that range of movement might be possible. Also, I watched the entire video that clip was pulled from and they show you them bleeding a dog out, pronouncing it dead and then reanimating it 10 minutes later. I'm not trying to convince people that it is totally real but I am not ready to discredit it, especially since we have an institution in Pittsburgh which is currently killing dogs and reanimating them. I think they are called the Safar Group?

I AM ready to discredit. Having the muscles is fine, but for the muscles to work they MUST be connected to the skeletal structure near the shoulders. This dog's head was "apparently" severed in the middle of the neck. It's fake!

Experiments in "reanimation" are being done with cryo not necro. These are fake.

I know it is sometimes hard to sense sarcasm and tone through text so I am going to ignore my notion that you were trying to be rude with that statement. I will say I'm sorry if I somehow pissed you off with my post that you quoted.

So then you believe reports about the Safar Center in Pittsburgh? They are basically draining a dog's blood and injecting it with a cool saline solution, killing the dog. They then wait and repump the blood back into the dog and bring it back to life. I already linked to the article. I understand that is different than the Russian film because of the cryo going on but do you still believe it? According to the article linked above, I think it said the Safar Group has went as far as waiting 3 hours before reviving the dog.

[Captain Shiva]

Real or not,this idea could form the basis for a horror movie.

[Beatmeclever]

Torval - I wasn't angered by your comment. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I believe that a lot of things are possible when it comes to biological systems. I just have too many problems with the examples that are found online. I'm not angry. Please don't think I was.

My problem with Cryo comes down to the duration for an animal to stay under and duration of life after being brought out. Durations in "death" are not extended to more than three to four hours, and we are never told how long the animals actually live for afterward. It is currently thought that the majority of test animals have neurological faults, which cause the animal to experience seizures, paralysis, and death within days to weeks after the experiment.

The future WILL bring the ability to place a person in Suspended Animation (death) for extended periods of time for the performance of medical procedures, travel to distant locales, even for "life-extension" purposes. But there are a lot of hurdles left to mount before that time.

Again, please forgive me for any miscommunication.

I do, however, think this would make for a great introduction to a movie. "Dog of the Dead" anybody? No? Maybe "Zompup!"?

[CyCo]

Real or not,this idea could form the basis for a horror movie.

Spoiler:

Was the subject of the last X-Files movie. Which kinda freaked me out a tad, as only a week before I was reading about this stuff.

[Torval]

My problem with Cryo comes down to the duration for an animal to stay under and duration of life after being brought out. Durations in "death" are not extended to more than three to four hours, and we are never told how long the animals actually live for afterward. It is currently thought that the majority of test animals have neurological faults, which cause the animal to experience seizures, paralysis, and death within days to weeks after the experiment.

Yeah, the most I could seem to find was that they were waiting between three to four hours after death to revive them. That is what the Safar Center was claiming at least. They didn't really comment on negative side effects or longevity of life after the experiment.

Real or not,this idea could form the basis for a horror movie.

I was thinking that it would be an interesting introduction to a DR campaign. After I had read about this stuff a little bit I started to come up with the basic story for a DR campaign and how I could explain how the zombies came about.

[Captain Shiva]

Real or not,this idea could form the basis for a horror movie.

Spoiler:

Was the subject of the last X-Files movie. Which kinda freaked me out a tad, as only a week before I was reading about this stuff.

I saw the movie,and that's weird,because the connection never occurred to me.