Greetings and Salutations. Various things have been kicking around in my head, and apparently I can't sleep. So maybe I'm a bit sleep deprived to be doing this. Anyways, I want to ask everyone here a question.
If Palladium put out a book about Cultures of the Palladium World, would you buy it? The book would be somewhere between a 48 or 64 page sourcebook. The table of contents would look something like:
Book I: Surface Dwellers Chapter 1: Elves 1. The Wild Huntress O.C.C. 2. Woodland Magic 3. Spirit Animals Chapter 2: Orcs, Goblins, and Hob-Goblins (Reference only) Chapter 3: Lizard Men (Reference only)
Book II: Subterranean Races Chapter 1: Dwarves 1. Metal Warlock O.C.C. 2. Elemental Magic: Metal Chapter 2: Gnomes 1. Oversized Weapons 2. Gnome Fury R.C.C. 3. True Fury R.C.C. (Variant) 4. Sin Spiders Chapter 3: Troglodytes (Reference only)
Book III: The Giants Chapter 1: Wolfen (Reference only) Chapter 2: Ogres Chapter 3: Trolls Chapter 4: Rahu-Men (Reference only)
Book IV: Creatures of Magic and Supernatural Beings Chapter 1: Changelings 1. The Changeling Metamorph P.C.C./R.C.C. (Reference only) 2. Glow Tattoos Chapter 2: Gargoyles (Reference only) Chapter 3: Dragons
Note 1: This would only be one book, not four. The "Book" in the table of contents was just a term I used for separating sections.
Note 2: Anything that says "Reference only" is contained within a Rifter or another World Book, but not the main book. It would be up to Palladium to include a version of it or not.
Note 3: I'm not talking about putting out an unofficial book. This is if Palladium published the book would you by it.
I tried to include several options. Try to pick the option that you think fits best. My main motivation right now is just to see what kind of market something like this would have. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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I would love to have more PF books, but is currently on a buying hiaduse due to economics.
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I wouldnt like to see a book on races no. i would like to see more on the races but in seperate "Land" books to associate with living conditions and tribes, not the other way round.
If the world was "complete" so to speak then this would be a maybe afterwards.
It went from a "maybe" to a "no" because PF elves aren't woodelves and I didn't like the woodland magic idea.
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The Dark Elf wrote:It went from a "maybe" to a "no" because PF elves aren't woodelves and I didn't like the woodland magic idea.
Greetings and Salutations. I actually like your reason for going with a "no." I don't like the mentality that people associate with elves naturally being woodelves either. It's actually the reason I disliked the Zodiac Mages in Rifter 50 being considered official (because it mentions all elves have a bond with nature). I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels that way. For note, the woodland magic listed here is actually connected to the Wild Huntress (a specific O.C.C.), which is actually based on the Wild Hunt of legends. Anyways, just wanted to say glad someone else has that type of feelings on elves (which I find the minority most times). Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys to all.
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The Dark Elf wrote:It went from a "maybe" to a "no" because PF elves aren't woodelves and I didn't like the woodland magic idea.
Greetings and Salutations. I actually like your reason for going with a "no." I don't like the mentality that people associate with elves naturally being woodelves either. It's actually the reason I disliked the Zodiac Mages in Rifter 50 being considered official (because it mentions all elves have a bond with nature). I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels that way. For note, the woodland magic listed here is actually connected to the Wild Huntress (a specific O.C.C.), which is actually based on the Wild Hunt of legends. Anyways, just wanted to say glad someone else has that type of feelings on elves (which I find the minority most times). Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys to all.
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Yeh, I voted "no" but its wasnt a "never do the book" no. Any info on the races is welcomed and if it is the next book to come out I would buy it ofc. - So it's nearly a yes, nearly a maybe but ended as a no. Need to explain that.
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Greetings and Salutations. For the record, everything I just displayed here has already been written by me (except the stuff that says "reference only"). I wrote it as a Rifter 0.1 article (though canceled by Prince Artemis the electronic Rifter project may yet see life, and waiting for that final verdict). Nothing said here can discourage me from doing the work since it's already done. Personally, I see it as ideal for a Rifter type project. With that said, if the Rifter 0.1 does die I'm debating what I'll do with the work. In my honest opinion, I don't think Palladium would be interested in printing such a book (not enough crunch for them), and they'd be wary of sales.
As a personal curiosity, I wanted to see fan interest. That's why I started this poll (for note, I am not voting on this myself). Right now it seems like if this book saw print people would probably buy it, but primarily because it's a PF book and not because of the content itself. Don't worry, I'm not trying to convince anyone to change their view or anything like that (convincing someone to change their mind would defeat the point of the poll in the first place!). I'm not really offended or surprised by the results so far, because I didn't really think the idea would do great as a stand alone concept. I wanted to see if I was wrong, nothing more.
For liking your reason for saying no, I'm just glad I'm not the only one who dislikes the concept that all elves are a bunch of tree loving hippies. Sadly, most other people I know take that stance more often than not and make elves nature spirits of some type who have to wield a bow because all elves wield a bow. *Rolls eyes.* Anyways, that's not really the point. I just wanted to express my joy I wasn't alone in that way of thinking. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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I voted yes because it's PFRPG. That being said, it would definately be one that I would probably keep for content if well written. Frankly, whenever there's more information on dwarves and gnomes, I'm happy, as Elves always get the hype.
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Greetings! I would LOVE more info on the Races/Cultures.of Palladium World! My group actually NEEDS this sort of stuff A LOT MORE THAN A NEW MAGIC SPELL/ITEM OR RACE! Let's have a good look at the Cultures that already exist. I want to read about the traditions of Marriage amoung the known Races and Cultures/Kingdoms. I want to read about how the Eastern Kingdom typically handles day-to-day Laws. What is the standard TAX rate in the Western Kingdom? How many Holy Days are there in the Church of Dragonwright? These are the things that we wish to know!
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I voted maybe, although I really do like the idea. In my case, much like you and The Dark Elf disliking a specific view of elves (a dislike of tree-hugging elves which I share, by the way), I find that one of the things that I enjoy developing on my own are the cultures and customs of the species I choose to include in my campaigns. Therefore, for me to consider books (splat books) on cultures/groups, they have to be dynamite.
If someone wants to plot out street and town maps and fill them with businesses and some random NPCs then that sort of product I will buy without question as it will definitely save me time, and not put players' noses out of joint when I make changes for setting or story reasons.
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I think something like this would be cool, though my viewpoints may clash with what I can draw from the contents, I'm not sure if you just slapped something up for sake of example, or how much pre-existing detail you have for it all, but it's just a different cup of tea. Knowing me, published by PB, I'd probably pick it up pretty fast. It may be better suited due to it's smaller nature as a Rifter addition, or condensed into a single, larger, book.
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Actually, the last I spoke to Kev about PF, the Dwarves where his next plan for the setting. My proposal for the Tombs of Gersidi almost stepped on his ideas a bit, so he had to give me a boundary not to cross.
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MADMANMIKE wrote:Actually, the last I spoke to Kev about PF, the Dwarves where his next plan for the setting. My proposal for the Tombs of Gersidi almost stepped on his ideas a bit, so he had to give me a boundary not to cross.
Of course, when economic times are better for the company, as right not it's still a struggle to stay afloat.
-Mike <8]
Greetings and Salutations. Actually, I kind of already suspected this. I believe he mentioned something like this at the Open House, or maybe on the podcast (I can't remember where). When I heard him mention it, the dwarves are something he was thinking about doing for one (or maybe only) Old Kingdom Books because so far they haven't really been touched on. When I heard it I kind of face palmed. With that said, I completed and submitted (to the Rifter 0.1) the project over a year ago (and had it more or less done a few years before that). I still see this more as a Rifter project than anything. I don't think that'll step on any toes since none of it is official. But I do appreciate the warning and advice. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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i agree with a little of what both GaredBattlespike and The Dark Elf said. i would like to see the world books released first (mainly because i fear the 'world' will never be finished, and if anything, i want that the most). but i would love to see some detailed info on the cultures and habits of the different races as well. what holidays and festivals occur around the world? how/when do people celebrate them (do/eat/wear etc)? how are different societies organized? in the main book it says orcs are good parents and have strong families...that always intrigued me due to the fantasy stereotype that orcs are pretty much mindless fighting machines. i would like to know more about them. im less interested in new occs and weapons at this point, though they dont hurt, especially when put into context with the subject at hand...like a gnome herbalist (like a special version of the rifts herbalist), or an orc fighter class that specializes in protecting the tribe against slavers (like a ranger variation or something), or a dwarven smith (the ones capable of making + weapons and armor).
Palladium Fantasy needed Race Cultures books years ago to be honest. I want to know more about the PF-versions of these races and their cultures. Each Book should focus on One Race. Each book needs to be 100+pages to do them justice. Why ? Because each Race may have more than one sub-culture due to location in Palladia.
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Greetings and Salutations. For the record, with the Rifter 0.1 project up and running again (with finalizations being aimed for the end of April, and with legal formalities of Palladium thereafter), hopefully this will be out by May or June. The article was some 80+ pages when I finished it (mind you, at least half of that was O.C.C. and spell descriptions). While I still encourage anyone to continue with their thoughts, if anyone is curious to my takes on them and/or don't want to do the work themselves, then I highly suggest picking up Rifter 0.1 when it's released. Also, proceeds will go to helping Alex Marciniszyn whose family home had burned down, so that should be added motivation to pick it up. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
P.S. For those who don't know what the Rifter 0.1 project is, the Rifter 0.1 is an entirely volunteer project and will be an electronic version of the Rifter (a sequel/follow-up to Rifter 0). If you wish for more information, feel free to check out the Rifter X.X subforum of The Rifter forum.
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amodernheathen wrote:Elves being Sidhe is a bit overdone, I agree. However, concerning Dwarves. Didn't Dwarves forswear magic? And arent they punished for using magic by termination with extreme prejudice? Thought I read that somewhere.
Greetings and Salutations. I agree with the elf thing as well. The "Nature Magic" is a very small group, and it's tied to actual legends of the Wild Hunt (with my own take). That's not something elves (as a rule) would know.
Dwarves have indeed foresaken magic. In the Witch O.C.C. it mentions if a dwarf becomes a witch they'll be hunted down like an inhuman monster. If you're thinking about the "Metal Warlock" I assure you that it's not designed for dwarven use, but it does have ties to dwarves (if that makes sense).
Anyways, I only address these points in the hopes to ease fears. I read the write-ups in the main book many times (and a few looks at other sources) to try and keep them faithful to the Palladium design as possible, and put my own flavor into them. I haven't ever played D&D (or any other setting) so there are no influences from there. As an individual I actually dislike stereotypes (but as pre-existing races that can't be avoided entirely either). Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.
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Official PDF versions of Rifter #45, #52, and #55 can be found at DriveThruRPG.
amodernheathen wrote:However, concerning Dwarves. Didn't Dwarves forswear magic? And arent they punished for using magic by termination with extreme prejudice? Thought I read that somewhere.
There is also mention of a dwarf who who is master at one of the magical arts in one of the PF books. I'll let people speculate as to which & where...
There's no boundaries physically or mentally it's a choice for them based on culture and fear.
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Any new information on the cultures of the various people in Palladium would be greatly welcome in my group and I would buy such a book as soon as my meager finances allowed.
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"Dragons and Gods half the books got Dragons the other half has gods."
And thus both subjects got lame coverage. I want stuff like origin and history. More on the ones in the world. A cleaner system than the half-baked one out there for them.
Dragons are creatures of magic that have been around since the time of the old ones, The dragons are every dragon that can be found in the palladium world. Dragons being creatures of magic can travel across the dimensional fabric.
And that statement covers all the meaty substance that dragons got. At least gods got info on their own realm in some cases decent info. But really, the the new useable info on dragons was poor and partial at best.
Sorry, rant over, returning dead horse to storage.
The only PFRPG book I'm going to buy is LotD3. I might consider other books once this one gets released but until it does I'm not supporting this line. In fact, once the Minion Wars series is complete, the only line I intend to continue to support are the Rifters.
It's actually the reason I disliked the Zodiac Mages in Rifter 50 being considered official (because it mentions all elves have a bond with nature). I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who feels that way. For note, the woodland magic listed here is actually connected to the Wild Huntress (a specific O.C.C.), which is actually based on the Wild Hunt of legends. Anyways, just wanted to say glad someone else has that type of feelings on elves (which I find the minority most times). Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys to all.
