Khyron's ship

[Hystrix]

I was re-watching the Macross series (which I haven't watched in about 5 years). I always notice new things when I'm watching a series for the (x number) time.

One thing I noticed was Khyron's vessel that he crashes into the SDF-1 in Episode 36. It looks like a Rineunadou Lojmeuean class Moniter vessel, but it's features are very vauge. Is that what it was supposed to be?

[Alrik Vas]

I've always wondered about that myself. I think it was salvaged/repaired so there's a little bit of this and that. Or maybe it's the front of a different command ship (though I would have recognized that, i think). either way, i'm not 100% on it.

[camk4evr]

I was re-watching the Macross series (which I haven't watched in about 5 years). I always notice new things when I'm watching a series for the (x number) time.

One thing I noticed was Khyron's vessel that he crashes into the SDF-1 in Episode 36. It looks like a Rineunadou Lojmeuean class Moniter vessel, but it's features are very vauge. Is that what it was supposed to be?

I believe that it is a Rineunadou Lojmeuean class Moniter but one that took enough damage to crash land on the earth and then repaired by Kamjin's/Khyron's people (who did the repairs without clearing the hull of debris probably so that it would remain camoflaged from recon overflights)

[Alrik Vas]

By the picture, it certainly looks like it.

[Seto Kaiba]

One thing I noticed was Khyron's vessel that he crashes into the SDF-1 in Episode 36. It looks like a Rineunadou Lojmeuean class Moniter vessel, but it's features are very vauge. Is that what it was supposed to be?

It's a Zentradi Army medium-scale gun destroyer, albeit one that's been knocked around a bit.

Hi there,if you have access to the "Macross Perfect Memory" art book,which was entirely devoted to the animation series of Macross,you can find on page 180 the drawings for this ship which sizes 1.500m(near a mile) long. [...]

Probably not the best book to go looking for that art in, since that's a tiny little section crammed into the bottom 1/3 of the page and lacks the art for the battle-damaged version that Kamjin used (which I linked to above). Better sources for art or information on that ship include Macross Chronicle original series Zentradi mechanic sheet 08A, This is Animation 7: Macross Vol.3, and Bandai Entertainment Bible volumes 27 and 51.

It is a "Gunboat" and in the series was the only ship in the Zentran Armada which carries the Main Disintegration Cannon as the one mounted on the SDF-1.

"Gunboat" is a somewhat dubious translation (correction for M3 is pending), the official classification for that ship is "Gun Destroyer". Also, the main weapon is not called a "main disintegration cannon". The correct term for it would be "heavy converging energy cannon" or "super dimension energy cannon".

If you have seen the movie "Macross: Do you Remember Love? you can see it in action bombarding the Laplamiz's Fleet.

Or you could see lots of them in Ep27 of the series, bombarding Earth... which is why the art is in the series section of M3.

Also there is a book from the Entertainment Bible series (japanese only,sorry for that),the number 51 to be more accurate,which was used to promote the Macross II O.V.A. [...]

It was published AFTER the OVA came out... it was not used to promote it.

because the Macross II era takes direct continuation from the Macross: Do you Remember Love? movie as a SIDE STORY, [...]

Wrong. The Macross II: Lovers Again OVA was not created as a side story, it was created as a direct sequel to DYRL to commemorate the 10th Anniversary of the original Macross television series. It was conceived, animated, and then released as the first official Macross sequel. The OVA was retroactively made into a parallel universe story in 1994 to make way for Kawamori's return to the franchise with Macross Plus.

was a personal project by haruiko Mikimoto, [...]

Wrong again. Haruhiko Mikimoto was involved, but it was not a "personal project" of his. The development of Macross II: Lovers Again was headed up by the owners of the Macross franchise at Big West, to commemorate Macross's 10th anniversary. He was also not the only original Macross staffer to return.

no officially recognized until this year which in Japan conmemorates the 30th Anniversary of the series and has granted a place in the Macross Chronicle Magazine 30th Anniversary edition (I am mentioning that because exists a 25th Anniversary edition and i don't know if appears there,but I think not).

Dead wrong, and depressingly ignorant. The Macross II: Lovers Again OVA has never not been an official, recognized part of the Macross franchise. You can find acknowledgements of Macross II (and its two prequel games) in all manner of Macross official publications throughout the 1990s, 2000s, and into the 2010s. Even the game guides from the main timeline's canon video games (VF-X, VF-X2, M3) mention Macross II and its prequels, often with reprints of their box art and blurbs about their contents. Yes, Macross Chronicle's original printing did give the OVA plenty of acknowledgement... it had an entire section devoted to Macross II. Even the roman album and visual guides for the Macross Frontier movies have MULTIPLE sections devoted to Macross II in the histories of Macross.

Honestly man... if you don't know what you're talking about, and you VERY OBVIOUSLY do not, please don't speak as though you're an expert. It's just insulting to everyone, and it spreads misinformation if nobody steps in to stop you.

[taalismn]

My apologies to everyone for the misinformation of my post.I have a sort of japanese books BUT I DO NOT SPEAK NOR READ JAPANESE sooo many are supositions made on my own studying some fragments of translated news,and hours and hours of studying those pictures and drawings,also it must be said that when in Spain was released the Macross II series on paper and anime,never was starred as an OFFICIAL CONTINUATION for the Macross: Do You Remember Love? movie that was the cause of I was wrong here.
Also the info about the ship is TRUE.
Thank you Seto for the clarifications.I am only tryin' to enjoy the world of Macross and be happy with that,because they prove be a rich world of animation and emotion.
Not ignorant only,hungry to learn too.
Seto,from where are taken the Valkyries VF-1AR,1JR and 1SR which appear on the Entertainment Bible #51 page 26?.
Thank you and my apologies to everyone again.

No apologies necessary... you went with what you knew and to the best of your knowledge. As there's no accredited professional 'Robotech/Macross/Anime' fandom expert degree(at least not that I know of; there might be in some uberliberal online school in Japan), one has to expect mistakes. Fortunately, no harm was done, national economies were not derailed, and fictitious UN SPACY pilots were not maimed/killed due to misidentification.

[Seto Kaiba]

I have a sort of japanese books BUT I DO NOT SPEAK NOR READ JAPANESE sooo many are supositions [...]

Which, right there, is a great reason not to talk as though you're an expert... pretty much everything you said in your last post could be refuted with less than five minutes spent searching on Google. Even just looking the title up on Wikipedia is enough to refute most of it, honestly. I'm kind of surprised you didn't know Macross Chronicle's first print run had a respectably large Macross II section... the OVA's box art is right up there with the other shows on the binder, and at least three or four issues had Macross II art (including new pieces by Tenjin Hidetaka) prominently featured as cover art. (I had a bit of a fanboy moment when I got issue 21, and saw it had a brand spanking new, beautiful painting for the VF-2SS Valkyrie II dominating the entire cover... I was even happier when I discovered said painting on the Mechanic Sheet was so large it dominated the four-page gatefolded spread that the article was printed on.)

Also the info about the ship is TRUE.

True, excluding issues with proper terminology... but that's the result of you sourcing it to a reliable site like M3.

It's the same basic type of ship that the pre-crash SDF-1 was... basically a destroyer built around a single, massive super dimension energy cannon for anti-planet and anti-fleet bombardment.

(I'm the server admin for that site, and I supply some of the translations and art, so I can at least vouch for the accuracy of its content... though updates are necessary and pending, especially to cover new material like the Frontier movies and Macross the Ride.)

Seto,from where are taken the Valkyries VF-1AR,1JR and 1SR which appear on the Entertainment Bible #51 page 26?.

They're from the first-ever canon Macross video game, the "Shoot 'em up" game Macross 2036 for the PC Engine CD (AKA Turbografx CD). It was one of the two canon video games produced as "prequels" to the Macross II OVA, its companion was the TRPG Macross: Eternal Love Song (also for the PC Engine CD). Macross 2036 was notable in several senses... it was the first canon Macross video game, the first game where the series creative staff did design work, the first adult appearance (and first starring role) for Max and Milia's daughter Komilia (complete with official art by Mikimoto).

The VF-1AR/JR/SR are kind of the F/A-18E/F to the VF-1's F/A-18... a largely new plane built around the design of an older one. Officially, it's called the "Refined Valkyrie" (which is what the R stands for).

As there's no accredited professional 'Robotech/Macross/Anime' fandom expert degree(at least not that I know of; [...]

Amusingly enough, there actually is one person who could claim to be an "accredited Macross expert"... Egan Loo, of the Macross Compendium. He was the one hired by Animeigo to write the liner notes for their remastered re-release of the original Super Dimension Fortress Macross series.

Among Macross fans, there are also a few individuals who are generally viewed as being experts... usually translators, each with their own particular area of specialization, most of whom are MacrossWorld users. For the main timeline, it tends to be Mr March (known here as MacrossManual), sketchley, and MW mod azrael. For the novel and short story stuff, it's usually Gubaba. In the absence of Yoshino, I'm pretty much the sole expert on the alternate universe of Macross II: Lovers Again, though I've been expanding my translation portfolio into main timeline stuff like the Macross the Ride sidestory.