Prowl Question
Moderators: Immortals, Supreme Beings, Old Ones
- clawingwolf
- Explorer
- Posts: 124
- Joined: Fri Jun 18, 2004 4:23 pm
- Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Prowl Question
How do you do prowl? Like as written if you sneak up on someone you roll prowl a fail they see/hear you a pass you sneak up on them, but what if they have enhanced hearing or sight or other augmentations. What if their a dog boy and might smell you coming up. How do you factor in the target being prowled on?
Perception isn't in all books and is a D20 roll and there doesn't seem to be rules I can find to attach it to OCC not in the RUE, nor rules for bonuses for enhanced or supernatural sight, hearing, smell even taste.
Just a player of mine is going to be a sneaky Dog Boy, I know he will prowl a lot and vice verca he will have the senses to detect people prowling on him, how should I run it. Are there rules I'm missing?
Perception isn't in all books and is a D20 roll and there doesn't seem to be rules I can find to attach it to OCC not in the RUE, nor rules for bonuses for enhanced or supernatural sight, hearing, smell even taste.
Just a player of mine is going to be a sneaky Dog Boy, I know he will prowl a lot and vice verca he will have the senses to detect people prowling on him, how should I run it. Are there rules I'm missing?
- Akashic Soldier
- Knight
- Posts: 4114
- Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 pm
- Comment: Theres space for a paper airplane race in the eye of a hurricane.
Re: Prowl Question
You use opposed 1D20 rolls (its written in the R:UE under the rules for perception).
First the hiding character rolls a skill check. If they are successful roll 1D20 +1 for every 10% in the prowl skill. So someone with a prowl skill of 50% would add +5. Then, the people that might have a chance to hear/see the character roll 1D20 + any perception bonuses.
If hiding character has the high roll they are unseen. If the "spotter" gets the high roll than they see the character.
Characters with the Detect Concealment or Detect Ambush skill (who are actively searching for someone before the hider hides!) can roll a skill check also. If they are successful, than the "spotter" adds +1 to their perception roll for every 10% in the skill. Thus a character with a perception bonus of +5 and Detect Concealment at 30% (who made their skill check) would roll 1D20+8.
Hope this has helped.
First the hiding character rolls a skill check. If they are successful roll 1D20 +1 for every 10% in the prowl skill. So someone with a prowl skill of 50% would add +5. Then, the people that might have a chance to hear/see the character roll 1D20 + any perception bonuses.
If hiding character has the high roll they are unseen. If the "spotter" gets the high roll than they see the character.
Characters with the Detect Concealment or Detect Ambush skill (who are actively searching for someone before the hider hides!) can roll a skill check also. If they are successful, than the "spotter" adds +1 to their perception roll for every 10% in the skill. Thus a character with a perception bonus of +5 and Detect Concealment at 30% (who made their skill check) would roll 1D20+8.
Hope this has helped.
Last edited by Akashic Soldier on Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"I flew back to the states just to vote for Trump."
Mumpsimus can be defined as someone who obstinately clings to an error, bad habit or prejudice, even after the foible has been exposed.
I will not answer posts/questions/accusations by people on my foes list.
The Ugly Truth - Carl Gleba on the Cabal of 24.
Rifts® Online: Megaversal Highway.
Mumpsimus can be defined as someone who obstinately clings to an error, bad habit or prejudice, even after the foible has been exposed.
I will not answer posts/questions/accusations by people on my foes list.
The Ugly Truth - Carl Gleba on the Cabal of 24.
Rifts® Online: Megaversal Highway.
- Alrik Vas
- Knight
- Posts: 4810
- Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:20 pm
- Comment: Don't waste your time gloating over a wounded enemy. Pull the damn trigger.
- Location: Right behind you.
Re: Prowl Question
Lol i just typed that out but you beat me to it.
Mark Hall wrote:Y'all seem to assume that Palladium books are written with the same exacting precision with which they are analyzed. I think that is... ambitious.
Talk from the Edge: Operation Dead Lift, Operation Reload, Operation Human Devil, Operation Handshake, Operation Windfall 1, Operation Windfall 2, Operation Sniper Wolf, Operation Natural 20
- Akashic Soldier
- Knight
- Posts: 4114
- Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:23 pm
- Comment: Theres space for a paper airplane race in the eye of a hurricane.
Re: Prowl Question
Sorry man.
"I flew back to the states just to vote for Trump."
Mumpsimus can be defined as someone who obstinately clings to an error, bad habit or prejudice, even after the foible has been exposed.
I will not answer posts/questions/accusations by people on my foes list.
The Ugly Truth - Carl Gleba on the Cabal of 24.
Rifts® Online: Megaversal Highway.
Mumpsimus can be defined as someone who obstinately clings to an error, bad habit or prejudice, even after the foible has been exposed.
I will not answer posts/questions/accusations by people on my foes list.
The Ugly Truth - Carl Gleba on the Cabal of 24.
Rifts® Online: Megaversal Highway.
- Warshield73
- Megaversal® Ambassador
- Posts: 5432
- Joined: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:23 am
- Comment: "I will not be silenced. I will not submit. I will find the truth and shout it to the world. "
- Location: Houston, TX
Re: Prowl Question
I use what I call "skill dueling". If they have some kind of enhancements I add penalties to the prowl.
If they have a counter skill, like a dog boys sense of smell, I use the prowl as a penalty. Example: guy with prowl of 60% rolls a 30%, I apply a 30% penalty to the dog boys sense of smell to see if he detects him. I also let the players neutralize the ability prowling from up wind.
If they have a counter skill, like a dog boys sense of smell, I use the prowl as a penalty. Example: guy with prowl of 60% rolls a 30%, I apply a 30% penalty to the dog boys sense of smell to see if he detects him. I also let the players neutralize the ability prowling from up wind.
“If I owned Texas and Hell, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell”
- General Philip Henry Sheridan, U.S. Army 1865
- General Philip Henry Sheridan, U.S. Army 1865
Re: Prowl Question
Warshield73 wrote:I use what I call "skill dueling". If they have some kind of enhancements I add penalties to the prowl.
If they have a counter skill, like a dog boys sense of smell, I use the prowl as a penalty. Example: guy with prowl of 60% rolls a 30%, I apply a 30% penalty to the dog boys sense of smell to see if he detects him. I also let the players neutralize the ability prowling from up wind.
Ditto, It's not perfect, and requires things to jump around a lot, but I think it's fair in a RPG world.
- MaxxSterling
- Adventurer
- Posts: 650
- Joined: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:05 am
- Comment: I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum...
- Location: Lvl. 3-B, Wonderworld
Re: Prowl Question
There's rules for it and I think it's covered in another forum topic. I follow the book rules. D20 +1 for each 10% of the prowl skill, I believe. And perception is handled a different way, I think Nightbane has a chart for it.
- Alrik Vas
- Knight
- Posts: 4810
- Joined: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:20 pm
- Comment: Don't waste your time gloating over a wounded enemy. Pull the damn trigger.
- Location: Right behind you.
Re: Prowl Question
I think the same chart was repreinted in RUE, Maxxx
Mark Hall wrote:Y'all seem to assume that Palladium books are written with the same exacting precision with which they are analyzed. I think that is... ambitious.
Talk from the Edge: Operation Dead Lift, Operation Reload, Operation Human Devil, Operation Handshake, Operation Windfall 1, Operation Windfall 2, Operation Sniper Wolf, Operation Natural 20
Re: Prowl Question
I prefer to just have players roll the percentile if the opponent isn't alerted/actively looking for them. If they are looking, then I'd have both sides roll, as per the RUE rules.
There's really not much point rolling both sides, if the other side really has no modifier. May as well just roll percentile.
There's really not much point rolling both sides, if the other side really has no modifier. May as well just roll percentile.