torjones wrote:
Further, I don't think it's really bad wording. I wouldn't have worded it that way, but I'm aware that a rules lawyer would try to twist things to mean what they want them to mean with any wiggle room you leave them. It's simple common sense. If one definition of a word makes the power do something it doesn't appear to be intended, and another definition of a word makes the power appear reasonable, use the definition of that word that yields a reasonable meaning
The problem is your definition doesn't make sense and doesn't fit to the words, so to make another part of the paragraph make sense, you will make this one not.
deadly dull
completely dull - makes sense
deadly serious
completely serious - makes sense
deadly substance
completely substance - doesn't make sense, lets try the other meaning of deadly
fatal properties
lethal properties
killing properties - note how they make sense in the sentence.
Do you still really think it means completely
but lets examine that
deadly dull - death by boredom
deadly serious - I'm so serious, that it will be death if you don't believe me.
when you pick another meaning, you can put that word in its place and the sentence will make sense, so you are going for a meaning that is obviously wrong.
torjones wrote:I'm not taking the word from the sentence. I'm using a definition of the word that makes the ability work in a reasonable way. That doesn't mean I'm ignoring the word. It doesn't mean I'm removing the word from the sentence. I'm using common sense to make sense of something that otherwise doesn't make sense.
By making the sentence make no sense still.
as long as he/she has advance knowledge of its completely properties.
doesn't parse properly
torjones wrote:If you asked me to make a list of poisons deadly to humans, salt would not be on the list.
If you asked me to make a list of poisons deadly to snails, salt would be on the list.
If you asked me to make a list of poisonous substances for changelings, salt would certainly be on the list as well. Salt to a changeling is certainly an impairment to their health.
Notice how you put deadly in front of the top 2 but didn't put deadly in front of the bottom one.
That's what I'm talking about when im saying people are ignoring deadly. You are trying to make it something its not, because in the English language when you swap words of different meaning they will make sense. Go talk to an English teacher about it, they will be able to explain it better then I can, but the English language does have exceptions to the rule, but if you asked anyone who wasn't clutching at straws, that is definitely the fatal side of the meaning, because completely or fully can't precede properties in a sentence.
but as you said, it's an impairment to their health, so its not deadly.
That's why I say I'm arguing about the word deadly rather then whether changelings have an issue with salt.
Everyone is ignoring the word deadly because its make the power make more sense by what it is named, but that's not how its written. People store a lot by canon here, yet still change the power from what it says which isn't canon, but imply it is.
Canon - salt has to be deadly -> Bad wording that should have been caught at editing table.
House rules - salt can be whatever you like.this is what I'm arguing, I tried by logic, have you ever thought that salt is deadly because I would assume its as deadly to changelings as it is to humans so not very deadly at all, I eat it every day. Which isn't deadly, then explained it was by a reasonable amount because otherwise it is deadly just like everything else in the world.
Then I explained why I did it (balance reasons, racial negatives shouldn't be easily ignored, which it would be because of the way the tests are mostly done, to actually catch the players I would have to suspect they are changelings to make the eating salt and drinking alcohol last longer then an hour. The test is 5-10 minutes tops, changelings would always pass, thus it wouldn't be known on the whole that they have a weakness). Now I'm arguing that deadly means deadly. Everyone wants it to include salt (except me of course) so they ignore deadly.