Artillery and Air-Defences.

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flatline wrote:
Commander wrote:
flatline wrote:
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flatline wrote:Ion guns that can fire under water?

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Yes due to it heating up the the ions instead of just firing. So water heats up when the small laser fires as it is a conductor of heat. You can boil water so it loses no real effectiveness. Still does damage. Ie Heat Beam.


It seems like you've read about using a laser to create ionized air so that charged particles follow the path of the laser and you're assuming a similar effect will work under water. Am I close?

If so, consider the following: air is an insulator, so by creating a path of ionized air, you're creating a path for your charged particles to follow through an insulator. Non-distilled water, however, is a conductor. In fact, liquid water is a better conductor than most any vapor, including water vapor, so your laser boiling water will actually create a path that is, relatively speaking, an insulator compared to the liquid water around it. Do you expect the charged particles to follow it?

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Well the idea was to create a useful weapon. I mean if Volcanos can heat up under water i mean its theoretically possible that the laser heating up the particles would not follow it or else the water would never really cool down if i understand the question correctly.

So the idea is to heat up ion particles as the small laser does this but the after effect is that it creates a heat beam of sorts meaning that the charged particles cool down. Otherwise it would heat the air thus overheat the gun thats why i did not allow it to fire more than once. Otherwise well who knows what would happen but it might melt the gun barrel. To Heat up the air around the destroyer so much it would cause a temperature change like a heat spike.

Even boil the seas that would be really bad if you started heating up the ocean.


Okay, if you're just looking for a weapon to use underwater, weapons that use particles are a bad idea unless they have a propulsion system built in (like a torpedo). Blue-green lasers work well enough since sea water is mostly transparent to them.

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It does have Torpedoes if you look at the missle system Humm i should change the ion cannons description then. I mean a sea monster would have a heck of a time. But i think i over thought it and should just dial it back some with the Ion/Heat Beam.

It uses mini-torpedoes also in the pod. So those would be better.
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Isn't it because they're treated like electricity/lightning guns and water conducts electricity? Or was that a house rule someone made to explain that away?


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Ion beams are close to an electrical bolt, and the water is a conductor.
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eliakon wrote:In Palladium world, if you want to shoot an energy beam underwater use either Blue/Green Lasers, Ion Beams or Sonic Weapons. All of them have no range reduction. Why do Ion Beams get a pass? Who knows, but they do.


It's not even clear what ion beams are intended to be. They clearly are meant to be different from particle beams whereas in real life, they would be a sub-set of particle beams.

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Ok Ion/Heat Rays fixed!. Lets hope it does not boil the seas and instead cook a splugorth or other nasty from a undersea rift.
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Commander wrote:Ok Ion/Heat Rays fixed!. Lets hope it does not boil the seas and instead cook a splugorth or other nasty from a undersea rift.


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Sorry guys for the sudden departure and Not finishing here. I shall endeavor to fix this. I had many other ideas. I shall finish this off. Sorry but when i started this i had quite a few things going on and now that it has settled i can focus on my true love. *Plugs brain in and downloads* Ah just a small joke for big ideas or small ideas with a big joke.*Sage strokes me beard*
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