Size Chart Over Size 20

[asbjorn]

I have been searching for a good size chart for creatures over size level 20 and cannot find one. Does anyone of one? Thank you.

[BookWyrm]

I think there's one in Mutants Down Under, I'm not sure at the moment.

[asbjorn]

I cant see any in Mutants Down Under. I am trying to create a Human Mutant: Giant. With a medium build, I am having trouble determining a good height over Level 20, I think there are two typos on the After the Bomb chart. I think it should look like this:

19: 108+1D6
20: 108+2D6
21: 108+3D6
22: 120+1D6
23: 120+2D6
24: 120+3D6
25: 132+1D6

Thats assuming the two 60+1D6 for both 7 & 8 are typos, which is likely and the 132+3D6 for size level 20 is a typo. But I am not 100% sure.

[CyCo]

Nah, that's Transdimentional TMNT with that table.

[asbjorn]

That's why I am looking for help. I have calculated three different ways, first is the above chart which assumes that size level 8 and size level 20 are in error.
The second assumes they are correct and follows the chart pattern:

20: 132+3D6
21: 144+1D6
22: 144+2D6
23: 144+3D6
24: 156+1D6
25: 156+2D6

Finally if we assume that only size level 8 is in error:

19: 132+3D6
20: 144+1D6
21: 144+2D6
22: 144+3D6
23: 156+1D6
24: 156+2D6
25: 156+3D6

Anyway, what do you think? Since I cannot find any official charts beyond 20 and for the medium build there appear to be errors, but its hard to tell since they don't appear in errata. Thank you for your advice.

[Rali]

Which books are you guys using for reference? First or Second edition? Also, what typos are seeing?

[asbjorn]

I'm using After the Bomb RPG first edition, December 2001. I'm looking at e height and weight table on Page 22.

Under the Height-Medium column Size Level 6 and 7 both have a height of 60+1D6.

Also under Size Level 20 it looks like the height 132+3D6 belongs in the Height-Long column, not the Height-Medium column.

So... I was wondering if Palladium has ever officially revised these errors because I want to make creatures over size level 20 and need correct base numbers.

I have already created a revised chart but would prefer to know if Palladium ever fixed it.

If not I will send in my revised chart along with my article to the Rifter.

[Rali]

I'm using After the Bomb RPG first edition, December 2001. I'm looking at e height and weight table on Page 22.

Under the Height-Medium column Size Level 6 and 7 both have a height of 60+1D6.

Also under Size Level 20 it looks like the height 132+3D6 belongs in the Height-Long column, not the Height-Medium column.

So... I was wondering if Palladium has ever officially revised these errors because I want to make creatures over size level 20 and need correct base numbers.

I have already created a revised chart but would prefer to know if Palladium ever fixed it.

If not I will send in my revised chart along with my article to the Rifter.

Unsurprisingly, that is the same in the 2nd Edition rules book. I will have to take a look at the 2nd Edition Heroes Unlimited rules for mutant animals later today and see if they have a corrected version there.

Regardless, please do submit your revised chart and article to the Rifter and let us know if it gets published.

[asbjorn]

Thank you very much. I appreciate the support. I will post if I get my article accepted.

[Rali]

I finally tracked down my HU:2nd Ed, and it's the same table that's printed in TMNT&OS, AtB 1st Ed, and AtB 2nd Ed with the same errors. (surprise - surprise)

I would correct these errors as follows:
Size 7 - Medium: 48+2D6 inches
Size 20 - Medium: 108+1D6 inches
Size 20 - Long: 132+3D6 inches

If you really want to go beyond Size 20, increase the base height/length by 12 each level. Then add in rotation, +1D6 to +4D6 every four levels and repeat for Short; +1D6 to +3D6 every three levels for Medium, and +2D6 to +3D6 every two levels for Long. I'm not sure how to handle the weight increases.