Robotech Crossover question

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:09 pm

"Besides, Mister Klaatu, we ourselves do not practice genocide, whereas you seem to have no problems with it, aside from ACTING sorry."
"Your statement rings false. We have proof that one of your ships is responsible for the annihilation of at least three sentient species, before it vanished into the depths of space."
"You do? I'd have to see this so-called 'proof'."
"Very well. Here it is. As you can see, the vessel is clearly identified as the UESS Gargoyle."
"I question whether that is in fact one of OUR ships..."/"Sparks, tell me it isn't one of ours."/
("Sir, we got an ID on it. It's the 2088th Pathfinders carrier vessel. It's nominally one of ours-")
/"Damnit-"/
("-but we may have an out if we declare them rogue and the Gorts don't believe in 'all suffering for the crimes of a few'.")
/"Throw Tiberius and his crew under the bus? Pleasant thought, but what if they don't go for the sacrificial lamb?"/
#"Then we summon Captain Tiberius's crew back via a shortcut through the worlds this 'Klaatu' represents."#
/"Thank you, madame ambassador."/ "Okay, Mister Klaatu, here's what's what-"

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Sun Apr 26, 2015 11:43 pm

taalismn wrote:"Your wars of aggression, your campaigns across the stars, all prove you are a destructive species who must be stopped, contained, eliminated."
"Mister Klaatu, Mister Gort, any attempt to contain us, and especially any attempt to 'eliminate' us will be met with the utmost resistance. We straddle space, we travel across universes; we will not be so easily cowed, controlled, or, yes, eliminated by the pretentious arrogance of a self-declared 'cosmic law' that judges us as unfit to survive. We are willing to make accommodation with those who respect our right to exist; we make no such accommodation with those who pronounce genocide on us. Bring it, fat@$$."

I have heard of something like this before, but can't place it.

glitterboy2098 wrote:shades of Kip addressing the galactic court in 'have spacesuit, will travel"
"It's not a defense, you don't want a defense. All right, take away our star. You will if you can & I guess you can. Go ahead! We'll make a star! Then, someday, we'll come back & hunt you down - all of you!"

taalismn wrote:
glitterboy2098 wrote:shades of Kip addressing the galactic court in 'have spacesuit, will travel"
"It's not a defense, you don't want a defense. All right, take away our star. You will if you can & I guess you can. Go ahead! We'll make a star! Then, someday, we'll come back & hunt you down - all of you!"

Yeah, sending some people(or an entire SPECIES) to the galactic equivalent of a gulag or hell is a REALLY bad idea...

SRoss wrote:At least the aliens in Mallworld gave use a shopping centre...

taalismn wrote:"Besides, Mister Klaatu, we ourselves do not practice genocide, whereas you seem to have no problems with it, aside from ACTING sorry."
"Your statement rings false. We have proof that one of your ships is responsible for the annihilation of at least three sentient species, before it vanished into the depths of space."
"You do? I'd have to see this so-called 'proof'."
"Very well. Here it is. As you can see, the vessel is clearly identified as the UESS Gargoyle."
"I question whether that is in fact one of OUR ships..."/"Sparks, tell me it isn't one of ours."/
("Sir, we got an ID on it. It's the 2088th Pathfinders carrier vessel. It's nominally one of ours-")
/"Damnit-"/
("-but we may have an out if we declare them rogue and the Gorts don't believe in 'all suffering for the crimes of a few'.")
/"Throw Tiberius and his crew under the bus? Pleasant thought, but what if they don't go for the sacrificial lamb?"/
#"Then we summon Captain Tiberius's crew back via a shortcut through the worlds this 'Klaatu' represents."#
/"Thank you, madame ambassador."/ "Okay, Mister Klaatu, here's what's what-"

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:45 pm

Not to worry, though, all three of those species deserved it.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Mon Apr 27, 2015 11:25 pm

taalismn wrote:Not to worry, though, all three of those species deserved it.

That's good to hear at least.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 5:05 pm

Alpha 11 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Not to worry, though, all three of those species deserved it.

That's good to hear at least.

"On what arbitrary scale of 'deserved it'?" :badbad:

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:28 pm

Cut To: Deep Space.

The Gargoyle defolds and finds it's self surrounded by saucers

Bridge Officer #1: "CAPTAIN!!! THEY'RE CHARGING WEAPONS!!!"

Kirk: "Open hailing frequencies, tell them we come in peace! Weapons and shields at full."

Bridge Officer #2: "CAPTAIN!!! SHIP DEFOLDING BEHIND THEM!!!"

Aboard the Argo...

Captain Marie Erdrich: "Full speed ahead! Fire all weapons!"

Battle Theme

The Argo charges through blasting the fleet of saucers, it passes so close to the Gargoyle that it scrapes the paint off the port side.

Bridge Crew: "Cool they even have a battle theme."

Kirk:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:01 pm

Ironically, the Gargoyle didn't MEAN to wipe out those three species; the engineer was experimenting with this new propulsion technology he'd found in the ship's database: the Queller Drive.

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:27 pm

taalismn wrote:Ironically, the Gargoyle didn't MEAN to wipe out those three species; the engineer was experimenting with this new propulsion technology he'd found in the ship's database: the Queller Drive.

Ironically, it wasn't an engineering database either. :-?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 7:36 pm

SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:Ironically, the Gargoyle didn't MEAN to wipe out those three species; the engineer was experimenting with this new propulsion technology he'd found in the ship's database: the Queller Drive.

Ironically, it wasn't an engineering database either.

Well, Engineer Frankenfuber had a serious problem distinguishing reality from fiction. For YEARS he attempted to find out if Montgomery Scott held engineering seminars and where. And he wondered if Doctor Emilio Lizardo had ever done any research into Fold Space and how it related to the Oscillation Overthruster.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:21 pm

taalismn wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Not to worry, though, all three of those species deserved it.

That's good to hear at least.

"On what arbitrary scale of 'deserved it'?"

SRoss wrote:Cut To: Deep Space.

The Gargoyle defolds and finds it's self surrounded by saucers

Bridge Officer #1: "CAPTAIN!!! THEY'RE CHARGING WEAPONS!!!"

Kirk: "Open hailing frequencies, tell them we come in peace! Weapons and shields at full."

Bridge Officer #2: "CAPTAIN!!! SHIP DEFOLDING BEHIND THEM!!!"

Aboard the Argo...

Captain Marie Erdrich: "Full speed ahead! Fire all weapons!"

Battle Theme

The Argo charges through blasting the fleet of saucers, it passes so close to the Gargoyle that it scrapes the paint off the port side.

Bridge Crew: "Cool they even have a battle theme."

Kirk:

taalismn wrote:Ironically, the Gargoyle didn't MEAN to wipe out those three species; the engineer was experimenting with this new propulsion technology he'd found in the ship's database: the Queller Drive.

SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:Ironically, the Gargoyle didn't MEAN to wipe out those three species; the engineer was experimenting with this new propulsion technology he'd found in the ship's database: the Queller Drive.

Ironically, it wasn't an engineering database either.

taalismn wrote:
SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:Ironically, the Gargoyle didn't MEAN to wipe out those three species; the engineer was experimenting with this new propulsion technology he'd found in the ship's database: the Queller Drive.

Ironically, it wasn't an engineering database either.

Well, Engineer Frankenfuber had a serious problem distinguishing reality from fiction. For YEARS he attempted to find out if Montgomery Scott held engineering seminars and where. And he wondered if Doctor Emilio Lizardo had ever done any research into Fold Space and how it related to the Oscillation Overthruster.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 7:31 pm

"...what happened?"

"I mixed matter and anti-matter cold."

"Oh good! I was hoping for a reasonable explanation for how you managed to blow the OTHER end of the ship off!"

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:36 pm

taalismn wrote::| "...what happened?"
"I mixed matter and anti-matter cold."
"Oh good! I was hoping for a reasonable explanation for how you managed to blow the OTHER end of the ship off!"

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:28 pm

How to Robotech,s ships match up to Phase world,s ships?

Can I make a game where a CCW,s Explore class get dump in Sol system,by a Rift during the Rain of Death,knowning it can take over a 100 years to get back to the 3 Galaxies,they pic to help the UNE,Can it wokr?

glitterboy2098 · Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:32 pm

From the examples we have... its not an easy comparison.

Robotech ships are acceleration based, phase world is not. Standard weapons are mostly comparable, if a bit leaning toward phase world in regards to ranges, but robotech's heaviest weapons greatly beat phase world stuff. durability is similar hull wise, but phaseworld has shields.

Fighters are easier.. phase world tends to win there. Faster, tougher, have shields, better non-missile firepower.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Apr 30, 2015 7:33 pm

gaby wrote:
Can I make a game where a CCW,s Explore class get dump in Sol system,by a Rift during the Rain of Death,knowning it can take over a 100 years to get back to the 3 Galaxies,they pic to help the UNE,Can it wokr?

Gaby, it's YOUR game. You can do what you want with it. The only limitation is whether you, as the GM, can sell it to your players, who may have other ideas where to go. It's THEM who are going let you know if it works, and if they decide that they don't want it to work, well, you go with the flow, rather than force the issue. If not, then you better have another campaign plan to take them on.
Use your imagination. Think on your feet. Be prepared to revise or scrap as appropriate.

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Sat May 02, 2015 11:46 pm

Loki: "ENOUGH! ALL OF YOU ARE BENEATH ME! I AM A GOD AND I'LL REMOVE THE PRINGLES CAN FROM ALEX'S HEAD!"

Loki grunts and strains, but the can doesn't budge.

Breetai: (Batting Loki aside) "Puny god."

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun May 03, 2015 2:06 pm

Thor: "I've got a hammer, if it helps."
Tony Stark: "Lemme have a few minutes in the workshop..."
Steve: "Bruce, you got anything to contribute?"
Alex: "Oh god, please don't let anybody ##### him off..."

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Sun May 03, 2015 7:03 pm

Minmei: (Weadiling and clinging on to Bruce's arm) "Awww come on Bruce! Why won't you go out with me!?!"

Hulk: "RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGG!!!"

Stuffs Alex COMPLETELY into the Pringles can...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun May 03, 2015 8:04 pm

Tony: "Okay...that didn't work out quite as planned..."

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Sun May 03, 2015 8:31 pm

taalismn wrote:Tony: "Okay...that didn't work out quit as planned..."

Kevin Sorbo: (Cracking his knuckles) "Don't worry! I'll get him out!" (Cue Music)

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun May 03, 2015 8:54 pm

...ah damn...Book One of Robotech: Ashes of Empire on fanfiction.net ended, and the author last-call-for-leaving-killed my two favorite characters.
I was SURE (sub-lieutenant) Koso was going to end up in a closet with a Quadrono(clothing optional), but he's definitely dead, leaving a protege to carry on his memory. And the second-string comedy-relief Quadrono I was SURE was going to be Dixon-killed, instead lived.
The regular Zentraedis' promising Crowning Moment of Awesome got turned into a meatgrinder.
The author's going to switch to events playing out on Earth and introduce the new baddies' advancing nefarious plan before we get to see what happened to the Zentraedi regulars again....gonna be a hard wait.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Sun May 03, 2015 11:32 pm

SRoss wrote:Loki: "ENOUGH! ALL OF YOU ARE BENEATH ME! I AM A GOD AND I'LL REMOVE THE PRINGLES CAN FROM ALEX'S HEAD!"

Loki grunts and strains, but the can doesn't budge.

Breetai: (Batting Loki aside) "Puny god."

taalismn wrote:Thor: "I've got a hammer, if it helps."
Tony Stark: "Lemme have a few minutes in the workshop..."
Steve: "Bruce, you got anything to contribute?"
Alex: "Oh god, please don't let anybody ##### him off..."

SRoss wrote:Minmei: (Weadiling and clinging on to Bruce's arm) "Awww come on Bruce! Why won't you go out with me!?!"

Hulk: "RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGG!!!"

Stuffs Alex COMPLETELY into the Pringles can...

taalismn wrote:Tony: "Okay...that didn't work out quit as planned..."

SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:Tony: "Okay...that didn't work out quit as planned..."

Kevin Sorbo: (Cracking his knuckles) "Don't worry! I'll get him out!" (Cue Music)

taalismn wrote:...ah damn...Book One of Robotech: Ashes of Empire on fanfiction.net ended, and the author last-call-for-leaving-killed my two favorite characters.
I was SURE (sub-lieutenant) Koso was going to end up in a closet with a Quadrono(clothing optional), but he's definitely dead, leaving a protege to carry on his memory. And the second-string comedy-relief Quadrono I was SURE was going to be Dixon-killed, instead lived.
The regular Zentraedis' promising Crowning Moment of Awesome got turned into a meatgrinder.
The author's going to switch to events playing out on Earth and introduce the new baddies' advancing nefarious plan before we get to see what happened to the Zentraedi regulars again....gonna be a hard wait.

Bummer.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon May 04, 2015 7:20 pm

Vince Grant: "Okay, so we're essentially back to square one on this. How do we get him out of the can?"
Nick Fury: "Why would you want to?"
Vince: "...."
Tony Stark: "Point to Captain Obvious."

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Tue May 05, 2015 12:35 am

taalismn wrote:Vince Grant: "Okay, so we're essentially back to square one on this. How do we get him out of the can?"
Nick Fury: "Why would you want to?"
Vince: "...."
Tony Stark: "Point to Captain Obvious."

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Tue May 05, 2015 2:33 pm

Thanos: (Seeing Alex, grabs his gauntlet)

Alex: "Um, guy's? Why is everyone quiet all of a sudden!?!" :eek:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue May 05, 2015 6:01 pm

Church: "Ah...Caboose? That wasn't potato chips in that can..."
Caboose: "...needs more sugar!"

Alex: "...what the hell just happened?"
Charon: <"You'll be wanting to be sitting down for this.">

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Tue May 05, 2015 6:17 pm

"Of course if they really wanted to get Alex out of the can, they could have just gotten Yang to do it."

Alex: "Wait! All they had to do is UP END THE CAN!!!" :badbad:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue May 05, 2015 6:27 pm

"Please..at least somebody with opposable thumbs?"

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Tue May 05, 2015 10:33 pm

SRoss wrote:Thanos: (Seeing Alex, grabs his gauntlet)

Alex: "Um, guy's? Why is everyone quiet all of a sudden!?!"

taalismn wrote:Church: "Ah...Caboose? That wasn't potato chips in that can..."
Caboose: "...needs more sugar!"

Alex: "...what the hell just happened?"
Charon: <"You'll be wanting to be sitting down for this.">

SRoss wrote:"Of course if they really wanted to get Alex out of the can, they could have just gotten Yang to do it."

Alex: "Wait! All they had to do is UP END THE CAN!!!"

Love that show. I hope they can continue it with no problems with, sorry can't remember his name, what's his name gone.

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Tue May 05, 2015 11:04 pm

Alpha 11 wrote:
SRoss wrote:Thanos: (Seeing Alex, grabs his gauntlet)

Alex: "Um, guy's? Why is everyone quiet all of a sudden!?!"

taalismn wrote:Church: "Ah...Caboose? That wasn't potato chips in that can..."
Caboose: "...needs more sugar!"

Alex: "...what the hell just happened?"
Charon: <"You'll be wanting to be sitting down for this.">

SRoss wrote:"Of course if they really wanted to get Alex out of the can, they could have just gotten Yang to do it."

Alex: "Wait! All they had to do is UP END THE CAN!!!"

Love that show. I hope they can continue it with no problems with, sorry can't remember his name, what's his name gone.

Monty Oum

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Wed May 06, 2015 11:31 pm

SRoss wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:
SRoss wrote:Thanos: (Seeing Alex, grabs his gauntlet)

Alex: "Um, guy's? Why is everyone quiet all of a sudden!?!"

taalismn wrote:Church: "Ah...Caboose? That wasn't potato chips in that can..."
Caboose: "...needs more sugar!"

Alex: "...what the hell just happened?"
Charon: <"You'll be wanting to be sitting down for this.">

SRoss wrote:"Of course if they really wanted to get Alex out of the can, they could have just gotten Yang to do it."

Alex: "Wait! All they had to do is UP END THE CAN!!!"

Love that show. I hope they can continue it with no problems with, sorry can't remember his name, what's his name gone.

Monty Oum

Ya, sad that he is gone. But at least his work is continuing.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu May 07, 2015 1:21 pm

(Invid Racial Memory Flashback Scene)
Regis: "Behold, Ariel, the original homeworld of the Invid, destroyed by the Children of Shadow."
Ariel: "The Children of Shadow? The Haydonites?"
Regis: "They are but one aspect of the Shadows. THIS was done by another aspect of them. Fear the Xenocide, Ariel, fear the name Ender Wiggan."

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Thu May 07, 2015 3:45 pm

taalismn wrote:(Invid Racial Memory Flashback Scene)
Regis: "Behold, Ariel, the original homeworld of the Invid, destroyed by the Children of Shadow."
Ariel: "The Children of Shadow? The Haydonites?"
Regis: "They are but one aspect of the Shadows. THIS was done by another aspect of them. Fear the Xenocide, Ariel, fear the name Ender Wiggan."

Sound of needle being pulled off record (Invid Racial Memory Flashback Scene Interrupted)

Otaku Princess: "HEY MOM! SIS! Look what I made!!!" (Whips out Crossbar Lightsabre)

Regess & Ariel: Facepalm.

Sera: "Actually, I see our sister battling this Ender person."

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu May 07, 2015 4:00 pm

Regis: "Yes, we originated in a galaxy far, far away..."

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Thu May 07, 2015 8:57 pm

taalismn wrote:(Invid Racial Memory Flashback Scene)
Regis: "Behold, Ariel, the original homeworld of the Invid, destroyed by the Children of Shadow."
Ariel: "The Children of Shadow? The Haydonites?"
Regis: "They are but one aspect of the Shadows. THIS was done by another aspect of them. Fear the Xenocide, Ariel, fear the name Ender Wiggan."

SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:(Invid Racial Memory Flashback Scene)
Regis: "Behold, Ariel, the original homeworld of the Invid, destroyed by the Children of Shadow."
Ariel: "The Children of Shadow? The Haydonites?"
Regis: "They are but one aspect of the Shadows. THIS was done by another aspect of them. Fear the Xenocide, Ariel, fear the name Ender Wiggan."

Sound of needle being pulled off record (Invid Racial Memory Flashback Scene Interrupted)

Otaku Princess: "HEY MOM! SIS! Look what I made!!!" (Whips out Crossbar Lightsabre)

Regess & Ariel: Facepalm.

Sera: "Actually, I see our sister battling this Ender person."

taalismn wrote:Regis: "Yes, we originated in a galaxy far, far away..."

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu May 07, 2015 10:39 pm

Actually, if you look at the Ender's Game movie and Robotech, they match up surprisingly well...

Enderverse starships may travel interstellar far slower than Fold Drives, but they do have instantaneous communication, and their ships are roughly comparable in tonnage and capability. though the EG ships have the advantage in that their fighters are drones, and they have a LOT of them. However, they're fighting the Formics, who being organitech, apparently don't have the means to jam the command links that the EG humans have to control their drones(hell, the Buggers don't even recognize humans as sentient at first because we're not a collective intelligence), although it's possible that ansible/gravity tech could be what's linking the drones for instant real time control. And the' Little Doctor' is arguably a touch better on Neutron S missiles, though the latter are 'fire and forget' while the former is 'drive your flagship up within range'.
The Formics clearly have NUMBERS compared to the Invid, but Invid lack the extreme centralization of the Formics...a lucky kill on a Formic Queen, and most, of not all, of the invasion force literally stops dead in its tracks. I don't see the Invid having that problem.

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Fri May 08, 2015 2:41 pm

There is also the Invid ability to precision teleport over interstellar distances.

Harrison Ford: "Ender, we're really using you to win a genocidal war for u..."

50,000 Shock Troopers appear in Battle School.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri May 08, 2015 7:59 pm

SRoss wrote:There is also the Invid ability to precision teleport over interstellar distances.

Harrison Ford: "Ender, we're really using you to win a genocidal war for u..."

50,000 Shock Troopers appear in Battle School.

"THis is your post-graduate exam..."

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Fri May 08, 2015 11:19 pm

taalismn wrote:Actually, if you look at the Ender's Game movie and Robotech, they match up surprisingly well...

Enderverse starships may travel interstellar far slower than Fold Drives, but they do have instantaneous communication, and their ships are roughly comparable in tonnage and capability. though the EG ships have the advantage in that their fighters are drones, and they have a LOT of them. However, they're fighting the Formics, who being organitech, apparently don't have the means to jam the command links that the EG humans have to control their drones(hell, the Buggers don't even recognize humans as sentient at first because we're not a collective intelligence), although it's possible that ansible/gravity tech could be what's linking the drones for instant real time control. And the' Little Doctor' is arguably a touch better on Neutron S missiles, though the latter are 'fire and forget' while the former is 'drive your flagship up within range'.
The Formics clearly have NUMBERS compared to the Invid, but Invid lack the extreme centralization of the Formics...a lucky kill on a Formic Queen, and most, of not all, of the invasion force literally stops dead in its tracks. I don't see the Invid having that problem.

Never looked at them like that. Never really came to mind, but ya, they do have simularities.

SRoss wrote:There is also the Invid ability to precision teleport over interstellar distances.

Harrison Ford: "Ender, we're really using you to win a genocidal war for u..."

50,000 Shock Troopers appear in Battle School.

taalismn wrote:
SRoss wrote:There is also the Invid ability to precision teleport over interstellar distances.

Harrison Ford: "Ender, we're really using you to win a genocidal war for u..."

50,000 Shock Troopers appear in Battle School.

"THis is your post-graduate exam..."

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Sat May 09, 2015 10:32 am

Of course before that happens, the UEG will probably be doing to Ender's teachers what they did to Gendo.

Chronicler · Unread post by **Chronicler** » Sat May 09, 2015 12:59 pm

SRoss wrote:Of course before that happens, the UEG will probably be doing to Ender's teachers what they did to Gendo.

Chronicler: "Book universe or movie? Cause I like Harrison Ford."

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Sat May 09, 2015 3:49 pm

Book, cause it will **** off Card.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Sat May 09, 2015 10:52 pm

SRoss wrote:Of course before that happens, the UEG will probably be doing to Ender's teachers what they did to Gendo.

IMO, Gendo was WAY worse then any of Ender's teachers.

Chronicler wrote:
SRoss wrote:Of course before that happens, the UEG will probably be doing to Ender's teachers what they did to Gendo.

Chronicler: "Book universe or movie? Cause I like Harrison Ford."

SRoss wrote:Book, cause it will **** off Card.

SRoss · Unread post by **SRoss** » Sun May 10, 2015 5:40 pm

A cell deep below GMP HQ: The door opens reveling a lone figure inside.

Nova: "YO! GENDO! You got new roommates!"

Hyrum Graff, Major Anderson and Admiral Chamrajnagar are shoved in the cell and the door slammed behind them.

Gendo: "So, what are you in for?"

Graff: "We apparently encountered an Anime world that doesn't believe in using child soldiers."

Anderson: "Go figure."

Chronicler · Unread post by **Chronicler** » Sun May 10, 2015 6:08 pm

SRoss wrote:A cell deep below GMP HQ: The door opens reveling a lone figure inside.

Nova: "YO! GENDO! You got new roommates!"

Hyrum Graff, Major Anderson and Admiral Chamrajnagar are shoved in the cell and the door slammed behind them.

Gendo: "So, what are you in for?"

Graff: "We apparently encountered an Anime world that doesn't believe in using child soldiers."

Anderson: "Go figure."

Nova: "So who's next for war-crimes involving children?"

GMP agent: "One Miss Dr.Catherine Halsey."

Nova: "Excellent." :twisted:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun May 10, 2015 8:18 pm

Oh yeah, the NBsG/Halo xover 'Red in Tooth and Claw' has Halsey obliged to explain herself to the Colonials, admitting she's a monster, but that civil war was an even greater atrocity(and the war with the Covenant was a lucky moral happenstance). The fact that Cortana manages to get a bioCylon body that's genetically related to Halsey has her bending the rest of the series to make sure her daughter and her son-in-law have normal lives. So she's a repentant monster.
Most fanfics that deal with the issue have the Spartans treat her as a mother figure(apparently, even though there are painful failures during the intitial stages of the augmentation program, the cripples are well looked-after) and would go thru hell to get her back.

Alpha 11 · Unread post by **Alpha 11** » Sun May 10, 2015 9:07 pm

SRoss wrote:A cell deep below GMP HQ: The door opens reveling a lone figure inside.

Nova: "YO! GENDO! You got new roommates!"

Hyrum Graff, Major Anderson and Admiral Chamrajnagar are shoved in the cell and the door slammed behind them.

Gendo: "So, what are you in for?"

Graff: "We apparently encountered an Anime world that doesn't believe in using child soldiers."

Anderson: "Go figure."

Chronicler wrote:
SRoss wrote:A cell deep below GMP HQ: The door opens reveling a lone figure inside.

Nova: "YO! GENDO! You got new roommates!"

Hyrum Graff, Major Anderson and Admiral Chamrajnagar are shoved in the cell and the door slammed behind them.

Gendo: "So, what are you in for?"

Graff: "We apparently encountered an Anime world that doesn't believe in using child soldiers."

Anderson: "Go figure."

Nova: "So who's next for war-crimes involving children?"

GMP agent: "One Miss Dr.Catherine Halsey."

Nova: "Excellent."

Though, with that one, wouldn't they have to take in all of ONI. And wasn't it originally their ideal to go ahead and do it, not Halsey? She might have said, to do it right, they would have to be real young, but, as I said, ION is the one that said, great ideal, let's do it! Though I could be wrong .

taalismn wrote:Oh yeah, the NBsG/Halo xover 'Red in Tooth and Claw' has Halsey obliged to explain herself to the Colonials, admitting she's a monster, but that civil war was an even greater atrocity(and the war with the Covenant was a lucky moral happenstance). The fact that Cortana manages to get a bioCylon body that's genetically related to Halsey has her bending the rest of the series to make sure her daughter and her son-in-law have normal lives. So she's a repentant monster.
Most fanfics that deal with the issue have the Spartans treat her as a mother figure(apparently, even though there are painful failures during the intitial stages of the augmentation program, the cripples are well looked-after) and would go thru hell to get her back.

It's canon also. The Spartan 2 on Noble team said she was like a mother to him.

glitterboy2098 · Sun May 10, 2015 9:16 pm

from the Halo 4 prologue.. which would work for the crossover-verse here too, just replace the ONI interrogator with a GMP one..

Interrogator: "Tell me about the children."
Interrogator: "Dr. Halsey?"
Doctor Catherine Halsey: "You already know everything."
Interrogator: "You kidnapped them."
Halsey: "Children's minds are more easily accepting of indoctrination, their bodies more adaptable to augmentation. The result was the ultimate soldier."
Halsey: "And because of our success, when the Covenant invaded, we were ready."
Interrogator: "Dr. Halsey, you're bending history for your favor and you know it. You developed the Spartans to crush human rebellion, not to fight the Covenant."
Halsey: "When one human world after another fell..."
Halsey: "When my Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction..."
Halsey: "Nobody was concerned over why they were originally built."
Interrogator: "So you feel in the end that your choices were justified."
Halsey: "My work saved the human race."

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun May 10, 2015 10:32 pm

Well, when accused of being a monster, you can either attempt to provide proof that you did so unwillingly, with a gun to your head*, or you can go full bore monster because you're going to hang anyway, so you might as well go out with flair.
Damn few times does a monster get the opportunity to claim credit for "I was right all along, but just didn't know how right I really was."

*Many Waffen SS after WW2 claimed they were ordered/forced to commit atrocities in the field because Himmler, aware that an Allied victory would mean war crimes, didn't want his men to squeak out by claiming to be 'desk criminals', guilty only of pushing paper and passing along orders.

Chronicler · Unread post by **Chronicler** » Mon May 11, 2015 12:07 am

glitterboy2098 wrote:from the Halo 4 prologue.. which would work for the crossover-verse here too, just replace the ONI interrogator with a GMP one..

Interrogator: "Tell me about the children."
Interrogator: "Dr. Halsey?"
Doctor Catherine Halsey: "You already know everything."
Interrogator: "You kidnapped them."
Halsey: "Children's minds are more easily accepting of indoctrination, their bodies more adaptable to augmentation. The result was the ultimate soldier."
Halsey: "And because of our success, when the Covenant invaded, we were ready."
Interrogator: "Dr. Halsey, you're bending history for your favor and you know it. You developed the Spartans to crush human rebellion, not to fight the Covenant."
Halsey: "When one human world after another fell..."
Halsey: "When my Spartans were all that stood between humanity and extinction..."
Halsey: "Nobody was concerned over why they were originally built."
Interrogator: "So you feel in the end that your choices were justified."
Halsey: "My work saved the human race."

Their is a big thing now that the guy doing the interrogation isn't ONI. Also if you guys are interested and want more fuel for this thought for the crossover: http://huntthetruth.tumblr.com/