Hardware Unlimied - by Greg Diaczyk

Razorwing · Unread post by **Razorwing** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:25 am

I never said there would be no weapon in the book... only that Unlimited isn't likely to be selling them. There are lots of other ways to acquire that kind of "equipment"... legal and otherwise. Just because Unlimited probably won't be in the weapon business doesn't mean they won't have services to offer... and it does leave a "market" open for others to take advantage of.

Just because they are the heroic equivalent of Fabricators Inc. doesn't mean they have to be exactly the same.

Unread post by **NMI** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:53 am

There are weapons in the manuscript, but none are described as being built by Unlimited. For the most part, the weapons in the book are meant as new toys for Hardware builds.

Greg Diaczyk · Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:11 am

Looks like you need an "official response"....

Unlimited is not a weapons manufacturer and do not as a rule sell weapons to heroes. However they do sell vehicles with weapon's upgrades and they have a weapons design department that helps heroes develop non-lethal weapons for their crime fighting activities.

Hope that help.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:19 am

Anything on reverse engineering super powers, so you can add them to your own abilities? ?
A Hardware Version of a Mimic.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:28 am

I'd love it if the upcoming Hardware Unlimited had more of a guide for adding super powers into technological items. The PU2 class of "Super Invention" was a good start to fill that gap, but it's not easily applicable to the Bionics or Robotics classes.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:36 am

Glistam wrote:I'd love it if the upcoming Hardware Unlimited had more of a guide for adding super powers into technological items. The PU2 class of "Super Invention" was a good start to fill that gap, but it's not easily applicable to the Bionics or Robotics classes.

It's all in the fluff. "Polymorphic alloy" covers a lot of form-alteration powers.

Greg Diaczyk · Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:37 am

Take a Mega-Hero!

The official Hardware Unlimited rules (As well as the ones in Rifter #37) allowed you to take a Mega-Power that grants you one gadget that in essence provides you with a single major super power (or three minor super powers). Those with a desire to also invent stuff could also look into the Super Genius Inventor Mega-Hero Power, which lets you build a minor super powered gadget every couple of levels or one major super powered gadget every 6 levels or so.

This would allow your cyborg to have a cloaking device (Invisibility or Chameleon), or your suit of power armor to have a force field (Create Force Fields)

This same logic could also be applied to create a device that needs DNA sampling to extract super powers from super beings granting the Hardware Character or his suit of armor the Mimic power!

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:10 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:Take a Mega-Hero!

The official Hardware Unlimited rules (As well as the ones in Rifter #37) allowed you to take a Mega-Power that grants you one gadget that in essence provides you with a single major super power (or three minor super powers). Those with a desire to also invent stuff could also look into the Super Genius Inventor Mega-Hero Power, which lets you build a minor super powered gadget every couple of levels or one major super powered gadget every 6 levels or so.

This would allow your cyborg to have a cloaking device (Invisibility or Chameleon), or your suit of power armor to have a force field (Create Force Fields)

This same logic could also be applied to create a device that needs DNA sampling to extract super powers from super beings granting the Hardware Character or his suit of armor the Mimic power!

So only Mega-Heroes should be allowed to have device-based super powers?

Greg Diaczyk · Unread post by **Greg Diaczyk** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:17 pm

If you player a legal character from start up, then yes.

If you have a GM who likes to play fast and loose with the rules then anything is possible and your character could come across something the GM has created base on a super power using the Mega-Hero option as a guideline for it construction.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:18 pm

Fair enough - at least the option exists this way.

The Artist Formerly · Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:25 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:Looks like you need an "official response"....

Unlimited is not a weapons manufacturer and do not as a rule sell weapons to heroes. However they do sell vehicles with weapon's upgrades and they have a weapons design department that helps heroes develop non-lethal weapons for their crime fighting activities.

Hope that help.

It does, thanks.

Different question. 308 pages, that's bigger then the GMs guide, and almost as big as the core rule book, are you going to split that into multipul books? And if so, what size(s)?

Unread post by **NMI** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:47 pm

Glistam wrote:
Greg Diaczyk wrote:Take a Mega-Hero!

The official Hardware Unlimited rules (As well as the ones in Rifter #37) allowed you to take a Mega-Power that grants you one gadget that in essence provides you with a single major super power (or three minor super powers). Those with a desire to also invent stuff could also look into the Super Genius Inventor Mega-Hero Power, which lets you build a minor super powered gadget every couple of levels or one major super powered gadget every 6 levels or so.

This would allow your cyborg to have a cloaking device (Invisibility or Chameleon), or your suit of power armor to have a force field (Create Force Fields)

This same logic could also be applied to create a device that needs DNA sampling to extract super powers from super beings granting the Hardware Character or his suit of armor the Mimic power!

So only Mega-Heroes should be allowed to have device-based super powers?

I agree with Greg's answer, however, keep in mind that you could play a "Super Invention" Power Category and NOT be a Mega. You can even be [per the Super Invention in PU2] a Hardware: Electrical or Mechanical AND still get a Super Invention. Heck, you go really far out and
*Start with Super Invention Power Category
*Roll the PC as the Inventor and start with Hardware: Electrical.
*Following the Hardware rules on taking a 2nd specialty, add in Mechanical.
*Enjoy!

Greg Diaczyk · Unread post by **Greg Diaczyk** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 2:03 pm

its 306 pages of raw printed data at 10 point font, Time New Roman.

Switch out to the standard Palladium Books double column, a new font and text size.

There will probably be some cutting, editing and maybe even some additions which may increase or decrease the page count.

Throw in some awesome artwork and table of contents/indexes and you are probably looking at a book about the same size (300 pages) which is less than the Heroes Unlimited 2nd Edition which is 352 pages and will probably stay as a single book, with possible any of the cut material showing up in a Rifter or two.

Daniel Stoker · Mon Jun 22, 2015 4:56 pm

Thank you for the heads up on all this Greg.

Daniel Stoker

The Artist Formerly · Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:19 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:its 306 pages of raw printed data at 10 point font, Time New Roman.

Switch out to the standard Palladium Books double column, a new font and text size.

There will probably be some cutting, editing and maybe even some additions which may increase or decrease the page count.

Throw in some awesome artwork and table of contents/indexes and you are probably looking at a book about the same size (300 pages) which is less than the Heroes Unlimited 2nd Edition which is 352 pages and will probably stay as a single book, with possible any of the cut material showing up in a Rifter or two.

Would two or three books, powers unlimited style be an option? It worked well for those books.

The Beast · Unread post by **The Beast** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:29 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:Take a Mega-Hero!

Okay, but I charge $2.50 for the plug-down and $0.40 for every fifth of a mile.

Unread post by **NMI** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:37 pm

The Artist Formerly wrote:
Greg Diaczyk wrote:its 306 pages of raw printed data at 10 point font, Time New Roman.

Switch out to the standard Palladium Books double column, a new font and text size.

There will probably be some cutting, editing and maybe even some additions which may increase or decrease the page count.

Throw in some awesome artwork and table of contents/indexes and you are probably looking at a book about the same size (300 pages) which is less than the Heroes Unlimited 2nd Edition which is 352 pages and will probably stay as a single book, with possible any of the cut material showing up in a Rifter or two.

Would two or three books, powers unlimited style be an option? It worked well for those books.

From what I have read, it would be tough to do this as 3 books... 2 books at best. Though, I would already like to see it as 1 large book.

drewkitty ~..~ · Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:53 pm

Is the SuperVehical construction text easier to understand then the text in the HU2MB?

Unread post by **NMI** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:45 pm

What is wrong with it in the HU2ed book?

The Artist Formerly · Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:03 pm

NMI wrote:
The Artist Formerly wrote:
Greg Diaczyk wrote:its 306 pages of raw printed data at 10 point font, Time New Roman.

Switch out to the standard Palladium Books double column, a new font and text size.

There will probably be some cutting, editing and maybe even some additions which may increase or decrease the page count.

Throw in some awesome artwork and table of contents/indexes and you are probably looking at a book about the same size (300 pages) which is less than the Heroes Unlimited 2nd Edition which is 352 pages and will probably stay as a single book, with possible any of the cut material showing up in a Rifter or two.

Would two or three books, powers unlimited style be an option? It worked well for those books.

From what I have read, it would be tough to do this as 3 books... 2 books at best. Though, I would already like to see it as 1 large book.

308, plus art? Like two GMs guides sizes?

Greg Diaczyk · Unread post by **Greg Diaczyk** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:25 am

I hope so! If you saw Rifter #50 & 51 its a revised and expanded version of the Rifts Vehicle Construction Rules

No, once the book has been formatted it drops down the page count by 40% or so, then adding all the pictures bumps it back up to about the same. It really depends upon the book, how many images, maps and the size of the images that are included.

gaby · Unread post by **gaby** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 6:51 am

Hope ther some Themed Weapons,maybe rules on how to make weapons follow a themed.

drewkitty ~..~ · Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:46 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:I hope so! If you saw Rifter #50 & 51 its a revised and expanded version of the Rifts Vehicle Construction Rules

No, once the book has been formatted it drops down the page count by 40% or so, then adding all the pictures bumps it back up to about the same. It really depends upon the book, how many images, maps and the size of the images that are included.

"Optional source material for Rifts"
I saw the vehicle build text written for RIFTS.

Course those are only for ground vehicles.....which was not where the HU2 text breaks down. Besides I already fixed what I found broken in the text I've been writing.

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:50 pm

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:
Greg Diaczyk wrote:I hope so! If you saw Rifter #50 & 51 its a revised and expanded version of the Rifts Vehicle Construction Rules

No, once the book has been formatted it drops down the page count by 40% or so, then adding all the pictures bumps it back up to about the same. It really depends upon the book, how many images, maps and the size of the images that are included.

"Optional source material for Rifts"
I saw the vehicle build text written for RIFTS.

Correct. For a portion of HwU, Greg expanded upon that article.

dragon_blaze_99 · Wed Aug 05, 2015 9:55 pm

awesome........ but i feel it needs more Achilles Heels :-)

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:36 pm

So what do I need to do to get a copy of this book put into my hands?

Stone Gargoyle · Sat Oct 10, 2015 3:10 pm

Glistam wrote:So what do I need to do to get a copy of this book put into my hands?

Wait. Or, alternatively, build a time machine that will take you to an alternate timeline where the book gets published next month.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Mon Jul 18, 2016 9:26 am

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
Glistam wrote:So what do I need to do to get a copy of this book put into my hands?
Wait. Or, alternatively, build a time machine that will take you to an alternate timeline where the book gets published next month.

Which Rifter Articles were this based on? I've seen the Rifter 37 Mega Hero stuff mentioned, as well as the Rifter 50 and 51 vehicle construction rules. Are there any others? I'm re-invigorated to try to utilize something like this and in the absence of official material, I'll take what's already been limitedly released and construct my own version from that.

Greg Diaczyk · Unread post by **Greg Diaczyk** » Tue Jul 19, 2016 9:08 am

Nope.

Those would be the two (three?)

The rest is all new material. Though technically the ship and submersible stuff was copied too, but Kevin hasn't released the New Navy Book just yet.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:18 am

For the last 3 years, every surprise package I order has contained a request for a "Raw Preview Edition of Hardware Unlimited." It still hasn't happened, but I keep trying!

Daniel Stoker · Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:38 pm

It's a noble goal man.

Daniel Stoker

Greg Diaczyk · Unread post by **Greg Diaczyk** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 5:16 pm

Ok, so a poked Kevin with a friendly reminder about the book and he said he might be able to do a Raw Edition for the Open House this year... but no promises.

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:24 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:Ok, so a poked Kevin with a friendly reminder about the book and he said he might be able to do a Raw Edition for the Open House this year... but no promises.

Of course the year I can't go :badbad:

Maybe I can get someone else to get me a copy for my reading pleasure...
and to keep my collection of "one of everything" as complete as possible.

Now that THAT is out of the way...
Can I bounce around in giddy joy at the thought of the possibility that this might be working its way up the pipeline and may see print sooner than latter.

Glistam · Unread post by **Glistam** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:06 pm

Greg Diaczyk wrote:Ok, so a poked Kevin with a friendly reminder about the book and he said he might be able to do a Raw Edition for the Open House this year... but no promises.

That would be a-mazing!

Nightmartree · Unread post by **Nightmartree** » Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:47 pm

mad scientist...
three years...
thank goodness I didn't read this back then

if this takes another three years I may cry

Reagren Wright · Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:41 pm

I will say this. This book regardless if it ends up being 1 or 2 books is absolutely necessary for HU's future. Greg brilliantly found a way to keep HU tech relevant regardless how
many years in the future go by. Right now HU is trapped in 80s tech, not 90s tech, 80s tech. This book solves the tech problems. Some of the issues right now that I'm having with HU
would be solved with the publication of this manuscript. Anyone who comes to the Open House needs to pester Kevin to get this book inserted into the assembly line.

eliakon · Unread post by **eliakon** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:41 pm

Reagren Wright wrote:I will say this. This book regardless if it ends up being 1 or 2 books is absolutely necessary for HU's future. Greg brilliantly found a way to keep HU tech relevant regardless how
many years in the future go by. Right now HU is trapped in 80s tech, not 90s tech, 80s tech. This book solves the tech problems. Some of the issues right now that I'm having with HU
would be solved with the publication of this manuscript. Anyone who comes to the Open House needs to pester Kevin to get this book inserted into the assembly line.

It makes tech relevant for all the lines. The gear in the other games for the most part is either more 80's stuff, or just edging into the 90's.

zyanitevp · Unread post by **zyanitevp** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:13 pm

Reagren Wright wrote:I will say this. This book regardless if it ends up being 1 or 2 books is absolutely necessary for HU's future. Greg brilliantly found a way to keep HU tech relevant regardless how
many years in the future go by. Right now HU is trapped in 80s tech, not 90s tech, 80s tech. This book solves the tech problems. Some of the issues right now that I'm having with HU
would be solved with the publication of this manuscript. Anyone who comes to the Open House needs to pester Kevin to get this book inserted into the assembly line.

I will definitely pester!

Razorwing · Unread post by **Razorwing** » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:26 am

Still no word as to when to expect this book? Yet another book in developmental Limbo.

Warshield73 · Unread post by **Warshield73** » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:41 am

Razorwing wrote:Still no word as to when to expect this book? Yet another book in developmental Limbo.

Well at least it has plenty of company. I mean that is one crowded celestial realm.

I'm hoping that if we keep posting we can at least get them to release a Raw Preview Edition for this book.

slade the sniper · Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:26 am

Speaking of...uh...Palladium development hell...

Is there a list of all the stuff that is supposed to have happened? I kind of want a list so as they begin to see the light of day, I will know that the end of world approaches.

-STS

Stone Gargoyle · Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:26 pm

eliakon wrote:
Reagren Wright wrote:I will say this. This book regardless if it ends up being 1 or 2 books is absolutely necessary for HU's future. Greg brilliantly found a way to keep HU tech relevant regardless how
many years in the future go by. Right now HU is trapped in 80s tech, not 90s tech, 80s tech. This book solves the tech problems. Some of the issues right now that I'm having with HU
would be solved with the publication of this manuscript. Anyone who comes to the Open House needs to pester Kevin to get this book inserted into the assembly line.

It makes tech relevant for all the lines. The gear in the other games for the most part is either more 80's stuff, or just edging into the 90's.

I'm so tired of having to update tech to make it relevant to today. This book would definitely be welcome.

slade the sniper · Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:27 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
eliakon wrote:
Reagren Wright wrote:I will say this. This book regardless if it ends up being 1 or 2 books is absolutely necessary for HU's future. Greg brilliantly found a way to keep HU tech relevant regardless how
many years in the future go by. Right now HU is trapped in 80s tech, not 90s tech, 80s tech. This book solves the tech problems. Some of the issues right now that I'm having with HU
would be solved with the publication of this manuscript. Anyone who comes to the Open House needs to pester Kevin to get this book inserted into the assembly line.

It makes tech relevant for all the lines. The gear in the other games for the most part is either more 80's stuff, or just edging into the 90's.
I'm so tired of having to update tech to make it relevant to today. This book would definitely be welcome.

Since all the books are compatible, could you not just start to add in stuff from Robotech, Chaos Earth and Rifts? The newer books add in great options for making cutting edge stuff for HU. What I usually do is use the old rules to make the thing, then just use the newer books to add in the capabilities such as the increased range, damage, SDC, etc.

-STS

Stone Gargoyle · Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:44 pm

slade the sniper wrote:Since all the books are compatible, could you not just start to add in stuff from Robotech, Chaos Earth and Rifts? The newer books add in great options for making cutting edge stuff for HU. What I usually do is use the old rules to make the thing, then just use the newer books to add in the capabilities such as the increased range, damage, SDC, etc.

-STS

I'd rather have it in one book and not have to buy a bunch of Rifts books i will never use otherwise.

slade the sniper · Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:16 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
slade the sniper wrote:Since all the books are compatible, could you not just start to add in stuff from Robotech, Chaos Earth and Rifts? The newer books add in great options for making cutting edge stuff for HU. What I usually do is use the old rules to make the thing, then just use the newer books to add in the capabilities such as the increased range, damage, SDC, etc.

-STS
I'd rather have it in one book and not have to buy a bunch of Rifts books i will never use otherwise.

That is perfectly logical. It isn't like the stuff in Rifts is all in one book either... I guess the best we can do is the Hardware sticky and the Black Vault. jamyz has some stuff on his wiki, and there is always kitsune. Now I am sad

-STS

Stone Gargoyle · Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:12 pm

slade the sniper wrote:I guess the best we can do is the Hardware sticky and the Black Vault. jamyz has some stuff on his wiki, and there is always kitsune. Now I am sad

-STS

Thank you for the Black Vault Wiki mention. I am glad some people are still using it.

slade the sniper · Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:13 pm

Stone Gargoyle wrote:
slade the sniper wrote:I guess the best we can do is the Hardware sticky and the Black Vault. jamyz has some stuff on his wiki, and there is always kitsune. Now I am sad

-STS
Thank you for the Black Vault Wiki mention. I am glad some people are still using it.

You are welcome. Of course I use the Black Vault (who doesn't?)...it is where I go for Palladium stuff. Be aware there is another Black Vault for all sorts of paranoid conspiracies gained via FOIA if you want stuff for other Palladium games...

-STS