Its Chaos Earth, people need to live somewhere, but where.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:28 am

Where would you choose to settle in Chaos Earth. Factors include weather, temperature, hostiles (theoretical for the most part right now), and ect. Assume for the time being, that locations are limited to North America.

I would have to say Texas.

Icefalcon · Unread post by **Icefalcon** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:13 pm

I would have to say that I am keeping my happy butt right where it is. Southern Minnesota, below what is to become Tolkeen.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:08 pm

Not going to try to go further south?

Texas was my best North American answer. If it had been anywhere on the planet. I would have said South America or Australia.

Icefalcon · Unread post by **Icefalcon** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:45 am

Maybe as far south as Kansas. Wouldn't go much further than that. If I had another choice, I would say inland Maine.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:49 am

I was thinking south for more warmth but in the event of a global cooling, would that matter?

Icefalcon · Unread post by **Icefalcon** » Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:27 am

SittingBull wrote:I was thinking south for more warmth but in the event of a global cooling, would that matter?

If there was massive enough global cooling, you would have to go to the equatorial line to find a place warm enough to grow crops. A good movie for this is "The Day After Tomorrow". It shows the start of a new Ice Age.

Razzinold · Unread post by **Razzinold** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:04 pm

I would try and make the 30-40 drive west from where I live to what would soon become known as Lazlo. See if there is some kind of NEMA outpost I could hide out in.

Jason Richards · Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:18 pm

Texas is always the right answer.

RoadWarriorFWaNK · Wed May 01, 2013 1:37 pm

in Chaos Earth, no place is safe.
you'd be lucky to find a hole to crawl into.

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:13 pm

I would stay nomadic, constantly on the move. Trying to keep more to the new wilderness as possible. Hiding in no place more then aweek and that is even pushing it.

Nightmask · Unread post by **Nightmask** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:11 am

Lt Gargoyle wrote:I would stay nomadic, constantly on the move. Trying to keep more to the new wilderness as possible. Hiding in no place more then aweek and that is even pushing it.

The problem with that is that you're never familiar with the area you're in or what threats you might have to face. You never know if you'll be able to find food or shelter or where to run to if something's after you, unlike someone who establishes a location to settle into.

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:37 pm

Nightmask wrote:
Lt Gargoyle wrote:I would stay nomadic, constantly on the move. Trying to keep more to the new wilderness as possible. Hiding in no place more then aweek and that is even pushing it.

The problem with that is that you're never familiar with the area you're in or what threats you might have to face. You never know if you'll be able to find food or shelter or where to run to if something's after you, unlike someone who establishes a location to settle into.

Except your forgetting that with ley lines and nexus points throwing the earth into total chaos, even an area you thought you know could be a totally alien land scape. You would have to use scouting and other skills to make sure your as safe as possible, but my guess is there is no real safe place. Even if you lived in a secured military base, some demon or mage creature who could open a dimensional portal is in before you could even grab your rifles. Remember most people still did not believe in magic as anything other than a trick. The advantage of moving around is your not. Reliant on some resource that could be gone with one quick rifts storm.

say652 · Unread post by **say652** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:35 pm

CT. its my home and being native american i could be spirit warrior. lol

Warshield73 · Unread post by **Warshield73** » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:24 pm

Not sure if anyone has thought along these lines but I would choose Freedom Station. Nothing says safety like an orbital habitat.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:12 pm

RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:in Chaos Earth, no place is safe. you'd be lucky to find a hole to crawl into.

I don't need to hole-hide if I breed an army of dogs to battle my enemies with.

Grell · Unread post by **Grell** » Sat Sep 28, 2013 10:00 pm

RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:in Chaos Earth, no place is safe.
you'd be lucky to find a hole to crawl into.

I'll settle any hole you're willing to take point in clearing out.

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:55 pm

Warshield73 wrote:Not sure if anyone has thought along these lines but I would choose Freedom Station. Nothing says safety like an orbital habitat.

Well I think the orbital community would have the best chance, however even they have issues and challanges that they would have to face, especially when personel are offing themselves right after the event. but it would likely be a better place to live than on the ground for the first decade or two.

Warshield73 · Unread post by **Warshield73** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:03 pm

Lt Gargoyle wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:Not sure if anyone has thought along these lines but I would choose Freedom Station. Nothing says safety like an orbital habitat.

Well I think the orbital community would have the best chance, however even they have issues and challanges that they would have to face, especially when personel are offing themselves right after the event. but it would likely be a better place to live than on the ground for the first decade or two.

Mass suicide, alien invasion, lack of supplies, and harsh authoritarian rule - orbital community would suck after the flash. The only place that would suck worse is everywhere on Earth. Even isolated and well defended places like the New Navy base and Tritonia would still be way more dangerous.

Have to say I don't think it would be better for decades, more like centuries.

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:29 pm

Warshield73 wrote:
Lt Gargoyle wrote:
Warshield73 wrote:Not sure if anyone has thought along these lines but I would choose Freedom Station. Nothing says safety like an orbital habitat.

Well I think the orbital community would have the best chance, however even they have issues and challanges that they would have to face, especially when personel are offing themselves right after the event. but it would likely be a better place to live than on the ground for the first decade or two.

Mass suicide, alien invasion, lack of supplies, and harsh authoritarian rule - orbital community would suck after the flash. The only place that would suck worse is everywhere on Earth. Even isolated and well defended places like the New Navy base and Tritonia would still be way more dangerous.

Have to say I don't think it would be better for decades, more like centuries.

I doubt Rifts earth is ever considered really safe again, even after the centuries have passed. Even the orbital communities will nevr be truely safe. however if something turely bad happens you will not die from suffication from the lack of oxigen.

RoadWarriorFWaNK · Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:26 pm

Grell wrote:
RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:in Chaos Earth, no place is safe.
you'd be lucky to find a hole to crawl into.

I'll settle any hole you're willing to take point in clearing out.

cool, more XP for me

Grell · Unread post by **Grell** » Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:36 pm

RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:
Grell wrote:
RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:in Chaos Earth, no place is safe.
you'd be lucky to find a hole to crawl into.

I'll settle any hole you're willing to take point in clearing out.

cool, more XP for me

Hey, someone's gotta be the brains in this crack outfit! I'm more of a lover rather than a fighter after all.

Tiree · Unread post by **Tiree** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:47 pm

I'd settle in California. Generally a temperate climate. Fishing possibilities. If in Northern California, mountains and hills for the rising tides. And with the many islands that I am sure to pop up in the San Francisco Area, potentially safe (yet not escapable) area. Too bad the mothball fleet will have been dismantled by then, the floating caravans would be gone.

Rimmerdal · Unread post by **Rimmerdal** » Wed Nov 13, 2013 12:01 am

Tiree wrote:I'd settle in California. Generally a temperate climate. Fishing possibilities. If in Northern California, mountains and hills for the rising tides. And with the many islands that I am sure to pop up in the San Francisco Area, potentially safe (yet not escapable) area. Too bad the mothball fleet will have been dismantled by then, the floating caravans would be gone.

Could get your hands on that area 51 base...your kids kids would be in for job among the Bandito arms later..or maybe escape in UFO...

JimmyB · Unread post by **JimmyB** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 10:37 am

Chaos Earth doesn't have a perfect location. But most likely your going to be in one of two general areas.
Somewhere around the Grand Canyon if out West, or somewhere around the Great Lakes if further East.
At that point, I would say make sure your camping Gear is up to snuff.....

Lt Gargoyle · Unread post by **Lt Gargoyle** » Mon Dec 02, 2013 12:33 am

JimmyB wrote:Chaos Earth doesn't have a perfect location. But most likely your going to be in one of two general areas.
Somewhere around the Grand Canyon if out West, or somewhere around the Great Lakes if further East.
At that point, I would say make sure your camping Gear is up to snuff.....

I'd recommend you have a small library of how to books with you as well.

Tor · Unread post by **Tor** » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:56 pm

Psionycx wrote:The psychics will eventually be drawn en masse to the Ohio Valley to found Psyscape.

Didn't think of this, but yeah, soon as Psyscape gets established it's probably the closest thing to Paradise around. Never was detailed enough. I'd like it if an author would consult "Between the Shadows" and design it via the proper domain rules, like we know how secure it is against the rest, if it exists in Outer or Inner Plane (my guess is Inner, coexisting on an Astral Plane Nexus in addition to Real World, thus the Psi-Nex), if it has features like free food/electricity, etc.

Future Psyscape sourcebook should be called "Psi-World" after what Erin Tarn called it in RMB. Especially since the "city" of Psyscape (Earth-size) may actually be bigger on the inside than the outside (Astral-size) much like the City of Brass is.

ScrapDaddy · Unread post by **ScrapDaddy** » Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:49 pm

I would live in the exact same spot I do now- Right in the thick of Dino Swamp.

Acid0philus · Unread post by **Acid0philus** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 9:33 pm

Tri-state Tn, Ga, Al for me. No fault lines there, and the woods there are where I grew up. Did a lot of camping from horseback in the lower Appalachians, and unless I get caught up in a fade, then I'll be just fine. And, the Birmingham area is the future home of Golden Age Weaponsmiths.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Sun May 31, 2015 4:19 pm

Speaking of places to live in Chaos Earth or even Rifts (not much difference in the end between the two). Has anyone written about, mentioned, or any other info on what Alaska is like?

cawest · Unread post by **cawest** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 7:53 pm

I would say find a mine and work on closing it up with a shack on the front, quakes might make a mine shaft a little unstable for a few weeks. we know from rifter 69 that they are going into a mild nukwinter of some kind. the coasts are toast with tidal waves how are inland we don't know yet.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:12 pm

Would a mine shaft be really needed. Is there that much ley line activity in Alaska? (I have never thought to look.)

cawest · Unread post by **cawest** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:35 pm

cawest wrote:I would say find a mine and work on closing it up with a shack on the front, quakes might make a mine shaft a little unstable for a few weeks. we know from rifter 69 that they are going into a mild nukwinter of some kind. the coasts are toast with tidal waves how are inland we don't know yet.

a mine is temp stable and easy to defend. also thinking about turning some of the mine into a green house.

Q99 · Unread post by **Q99** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:47 pm

I'd wanna be in Germany

Or better yet, a specific few cities in Japan

US-only, though... hm... I think Michigan or such. Maybe Minnesota, or Maine. I want a place with enough wilderness that hunting or fishing is a possibility. Yeeea, probably Great Lakes region.

Something like a mine shaft or similar is fine for surviving disasters and storms, but long-term, food is an issue.

SittingBull wrote:Speaking of places to live in Chaos Earth or even Rifts (not much difference in the end between the two). Has anyone written about, mentioned, or any other info on what Alaska is like?

I don't think so, but even if the number of threats happens to be low, I'd be worried about lack of industry and such.

I'd suspect some Russian demons would come over.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:21 pm

If we are touching on non-US sights, there is that island that Japan built for mining purposes, developed a city etc, but eventually the island was abandoned when the mining was no long cost worthy. Might have some spirit problems though I suppose.

Q99 · Unread post by **Q99** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:48 am

SittingBull wrote:If we are touching on non-US sights, there is that island that Japan built for mining purposes, developed a city etc, but eventually the island was abandoned when the mining was no long cost worthy. Might have some spirit problems though I suppose.

If that's the place I'm thinking of (Hashima), then yea, for reasons of spirit infestation I am not getting within miles of it!

Well, that, and no food there. I don't think you can even fish well from it.

SittingBull · Unread post by **SittingBull** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:46 pm

Well you would have birds. Could grow food. Lastly, you could head out in boats and fish from the island. Yeah though, spirits would could be a problem with an empty deteriorating city. Don't forgot cyclones and tsunamis... I retract the idea. LOL.

Q99 · Unread post by **Q99** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:16 pm

SittingBull wrote:Well you would have birds. Could grow food. Lastly, you could head out in boats and fish from the island. Yeah though, spirits would could be a problem with an empty deteriorating city. Don't forgot cyclones and tsunamis... I retract the idea. LOL.

Birds are unlikely to be in enough number to live on, and crops require a full season at least- plus I doubt there's much good land there at all.

While there are some islands that may be good, that would not be one of them ^^

I kinda wonder how Hawaii would be... as long as one was well above sea level when things hit, it's relatively self-sufficient, has lots of ports to fish from, and such...

mellowmaveric · Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:08 am

Reno/Tahoe area. Plentiful water supply, native wildlife for food, stable weather patterns. It wouldn't be high on a list of potential targets in case a war does break out.

Gamer · Unread post by **Gamer** » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:41 am

Los Alamo near Austin Texas.
By canon this community survives the cataclysm to the juicer uprising

kaid · Unread post by **kaid** » Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:04 pm

I would say best places would be the new navy or tritonia. We know they survived not only directly post fall but all the way to current day. They have similar advantages very high end golden age tech and mobile/semi mobile. When things get bad they can at least move to avoid it other than the hidden bases from the new navy but apparently wherever those are built they are pretty darn hidden as they seem other than I think one still intact.

Long run upper michigan would be a good choice as its pretty low magic wise/ley line/nexus level but directly post super volcano blowing up rifts popping off the UP is going to be pretty unlivable climate wise. Their winters at best are harsh but post super volcano I can only picture them as epic.

Alrik Vas · Unread post by **Alrik Vas** » Thu Jan 28, 2016 3:39 am

I disagree with Australia being safe. It isn't safe now, what makes you think it won't kill you ten times as hard after the rifts come?

kaid · Unread post by **kaid** » Mon Feb 08, 2016 2:40 pm

Alrik Vas wrote:I disagree with Australia being safe. It isn't safe now, what makes you think it won't kill you ten times as hard after the rifts come?

Probably depends where in Australia both of the big tech cities are golden age relics that were I believe continually inhabited. If you can stomach living in a police state they appeared to weather the devastation pretty well.