Battle Fury Wilk's Laser Sword?

[Aermas]

Where does the extra damage come from when enchanting a sword to be a Battle Fury Blade? Could something like a Wilk's Laser Sword gain the same or better benefit?

[taalismn]

Okay, first off where does Battle Fury come from? I find no spell matching that name.

[Curbludgeon]

Battle Fury Blades are found in WB16 Federation of Magic revised pp 119-120, or Rifts Book of Magic pg 317. The spells involved in their creation are Ensorcel, Speed Weapon, Power Weapon, Invincible Armor, and Enchant Weapon.

The extra damage comes from the Power Weapon spell, made permanent via the 1000 PPE version of Enchant Weapon. Note that spell's 2d4 permanent PPE expense. Also see the Deathbringer weapon in either text for an example of when such a weapon is made without Power Weapon. The Ensorcel spell is arguably a more awkward fit in these weapons, and perhaps represents something akin to a minor variant of rune magic.

[Orin J.]

Since the bonus pain is coming form an enchantment to the weapon and a Wilk's laser sword is, technically, not the weapon itself but simply emiting the beam that that functions as the weapon, i don't think this'd work.

At least, i wouldn't allow it, sine it opens up the "i wanna enchant my boom gun!" door by making modern projectiles and directed energy blasts "weapons" in the same logical path as swords and clubs for magicin' purposes

[Jefffar]

Is a bow or crossbow eligible for enchantment?

[taalismn]

Is a bow or crossbow eligible for enchantment?

Nope; Power Weapon doesn't work on projectile types, Speed Weapon doesn't work on anything other than melee weaponry.
Enchant Weapon can be cast on a limited number of arrows/bolts, though.

[Jefffar]

Okay, so some here are trying to define the laser sword as a very short ranged, ranged weapon while others are saying it should be a melee weapon.

[Orin J.]

Okay, so some here are trying to define the laser sword as a very short ranged, ranged weapon while others are saying it should be a melee weapon.

I am not defining it as a ranged weapon, i am defining it as an energy emitting device instead of a blade.

A Wilk's laser sword is a melee weapon in the same way a blowtorch is a melee weapon, the damage is not coming from the part you'd be enchanting but from the energy emitted by it when turned on. I want to be careful the enchantment is not read as "improves damage from the weapon regardless of the nature of how it causes said damage" here because that's a big ol' an of annoying worms.

[Curbludgeon]

To muddy things a bit further could a Vibro Weapon be eligible? There is a physical "blade" but any damage comes from a very short range field surrounding it. Arguably the physical blade never touches a target when the field is engaged, but that makes things like Vibro Chainsaws even more silly.

[Aermas]

Okay, so some here are trying to define the laser sword as a very short ranged, ranged weapon while others are saying it should be a melee weapon.

The books list it as a melee weapon.

[ShadowLogan]

Where does the extra damage come from when enchanting a sword to be a Battle Fury Blade? Could something like a Wilk's Laser Sword gain the same or better benefit?

An energy blade like a Wilk's Laser Sword/Knife or TW Flaming Sword/Lightblade (etc). I'd say no, they don't have a physical blade to enchant, even though they have physical hilts the blade is not physical. I think this is important since we don't know the "modifications" they TW has to make in order to turn the ordinary weapon into a BFB, there just may not be room on a "hilt" to do it (ex, what if you need to put mystical markings on the blade, how do you do that with a non-physical blade like a laser sword?)

You could do it with a Vibro-blade, though likely are "destroying" the Vibro-technology to install the TW modifications. Something like the natural MDC metals (like Kissenette, sp?, or similar materials). Could work though I don't think they'd result in a better damage output than using ordinary materials.

[Orin J.]

To muddy things a bit further could a Vibro Weapon be eligible? There is a physical "blade" but any damage comes from a very short range field surrounding it. Arguably the physical blade never touches a target when the field is engaged, but that makes things like Vibro Chainsaws even more silly.

it'd probably work, but on the knifeblade itself and not the vibrofield that does the damage. although that'd be a funny weapon, and MDC weapon that's magical only when it's turned off and acts as a "normal" knife.

[Aermas]

You have the physical hilt & magic weapons come in all shapes & sizes so physical space isn't the limiter, we also see all kinds of magic devices/weapons with a projection effect.

[ShadowLogan]

You have the physical hilt & magic weapons come in all shapes & sizes so physical space isn't the limiter, we also see all kinds of magic devices/weapons with a projection effect.

In general I would agree with this, but there can be specific use cases creates an exception.

The BFB entry in WB16o (pg119-20) are "usually Claymore swords, but on occasion, a weapon of this type is made as a Flamberge, polearm or large battle axe." It also mentions specifically "with designs etched into the blade."

The text specifically indicates alterations are made to the physical blade itself, something the wilk's laser sword lacks given it is only a hilt. The text also seems to indicate you need a lot of physical space given the only known examples are large weapons, which again a hilt-only weapon lacks.

Now a TW can create an hilt-only sword with a "projected blade" (Flaming Sword, Lightblade, IIRC even an Iceblade), but I don't think they can combine it with BFB proper given the description. That doesn't mean they could not give the device additional functions to give it SIMILAR abilities (x2 attack rate, increase damage, etc), and we know they can install multiple functions in a device.