CTX-54 "Firestorm" Mobile Fortress - (World Book 1

Soundwave · Unread post by **Soundwave** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:35 pm

Does anyone know if there was ever a map of the inside of the Mobile Fortress (from Coalition War Campaign) published?

Nekira Sudacne · Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:37 pm

there isn't, just like there isn't one of any of the vehicles in rifts.

sorry, I wish there was too.

grandmaster z0b · Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:38 pm

I'm almost certain that there hasn't. I remember someone was doing a floor plan for a deaths head transport here a few months ago - maybe that would help.

Soundwave · Unread post by **Soundwave** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:42 pm

hmm... yeah, that would be a definate start. Looks like its time to break out the graph paper and pencils. Thanks guys.

Dustin Fireblade · Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:48 pm

Well I know there was a guy that wanted to do the layout, then never heard anymore from it. Another guy from the http://www.nexusnine.net/ site was working on it. From what I had seen of it it looked pretty good. Not sure if he ever finished it though....

Rimmer · Unread post by **Rimmer** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:00 pm

Something thats lacking in Rifts, but done fine in Robotech, deckplans

at least with Rifts you will not need to reference any old anime drawings and cause inconsistencies :oops:

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Dead Boy · Unread post by **Dead Boy** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:08 pm

There really is one book the Rifts could beinfit form - A Tech Manual complete with deck plans for the bigger vehicles and exposed cross-sections of all the other stuff. Even if it were just for the CS stuff it would totally rock :ok:

Nekira Sudacne · Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:25 pm

Zerebus wrote:Given the amount of STUFF jammed into the Firestorm (namely, the robot vehicles), it's perhaps a good thing that they haven't made a deck plan map.... they'd either contradict themselves or end up invoking a TARDIS.

TARDIS? what's that?

Mike Taylor · Unread post by **Mike Taylor** » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:30 pm

THe TARDIS is a time machine from a TV show called Doctor Who. This time machine, because it could warp space and time, was MUCH larger on the inside than on the outside.

Adam of the Old Kingdom · Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:26 pm

Time
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Yet again, some one is asking for the CS Field Guide.
Sugested 3 years ago.
I live in hope.

Pox · Unread post by **Pox** » Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:11 pm

This sounds interesting...let me give it some thought on how much I want to give myself a headache trying to figure out the innards of the Firestorm.

Pox · Unread post by **Pox** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:59 pm

Well...I know it has been a bit since this post, but I was bored last night and decided to give it a go.

:eek:

Utter madness :eek:

I was able to plot out the size of the FireStorm on graph paper and that was fine, but when I started plugging in all the Vehicles...that is when the poo hit the fan.

At first I had most vehicle spaced by 3 feet for gantries and ladders for repairs, egress, and loading to give it a more realistic feel (I know...realizism in Rifts...yadda yadda yadda), but I couldn't even squeeze in 6 Skull smashers and still have room for the 6 Spider Skull walkers with this thinking. But then I got real and remembered this is just to get them from point "A" to point "Z".

So after I ditched the gantry stuff, I was able to place most of the land troops and Infantry into the command center and Support DHTs. The only problem I had was the Scout Spider Walkers, Hellraisers, and Hellfires (a Platoon each of them) and was only able to block out 20 of each. I cringe at the idea of having stackable mechs held suppended by hydraulics and elevators but that is the only way it can be done.

Maybe today I will do the flight deck with the 160 Light SAMAS and 160 Super Sams...not to mention the 60 Spec-Op Sams and Flight Cycles, I just cant get the dimensions right on the graph paper of the deck...oh gawd...the headache is returning as I type this

After this is done...Classic DHT...which by the way, I had not realized how frickin big that thing was. :shock:

ApocalypseZero · Thu Sep 02, 2004 3:15 pm

I could cure your headache by breaking from the graph paper and drawing the deckplans in AutoCAD. Nothing like using a 1:1 scale for everything and much more appropriate for the task (editing is a little more simple).

Syndicate · Unread post by **Syndicate** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 9:47 pm

Make something up time...

Pox · Unread post by **Pox** » Thu Sep 02, 2004 10:35 pm

ApocalypseZero wrote:I could cure your headache by breaking from the graph paper and drawing the deckplans in AutoCAD. Nothing like using a 1:1 scale for everything and much more appropriate for the task (editing is a little more simple).

Ooooh...and what do I have to do get this cure while being absolutely broke? :lol:

ApocalypseZero · Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:11 pm

Oh, I guess I should have mentioned that I was willing to do it. Or, at least give it a shot. But now that I mention it, I do have ACAD 2000 home edition. And that's all I'm going to say about that. *cough* Email, PM *cough*

Borast · Unread post by **Borast** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 3:04 pm

Nekira Sudacne wrote:TARDIS? what's that?

Take something the size od those funky towers in Malaysia, squeeze it into an double sized public telephone booth (or, actually, a UK police call box).

Heaven help me, I used to know what TARDIS stood for, but since the BBC killed the doctor (and are now thinking of bringing him back as a her) off (well, the show anyway), I've forgotton...damn shame, the show started in the mid 60's, and continued to film until the early 90s...

Pox...try turning the units 90 degrees. If you have them "back to the wall" with the gantries betwixt them, and a central aisle for deployment, try facing them front with about 1/2 a metre between the ranks, and the units about 1/3 of a metre apart shoulder-to-shoulder. Maybe you can do it that way and avoid "cordwood syndrome"... :lol:

However, this may simply end-up being along the lines of Mr. S's understanding of geography (ie: the way he wrote the Super Volcano in Chaos Earth).

Pox · Unread post by **Pox** » Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:37 pm

Borast wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:TARDIS? what's that?

Take something the size od those funky towers in Malaysia, squeeze it into an double sized public telephone booth (or, actually, a UK police call box).

Heaven help me, I used to know what TARDIS stood for, but since the BBC killed the doctor (and are now thinking of bringing him back as a her) off (well, the show anyway), I've forgotton...damn shame, the show started in the mid 60's, and continued to film until the early 90s...

Pox...try turning the units 90 degrees. If you have them "back to the wall" with the gantries betwixt them, and a central aisle for deployment, try facing them front with about 1/2 a metre between the ranks, and the units about 1/3 of a metre apart shoulder-to-shoulder. Maybe you can do it that way and avoid "cordwood syndrome"...
However, this may simply end-up being along the lines of Mr. S's understanding of geography (ie: the way he wrote the Super Volcano in Chaos Earth).

To be honest, the biggest obstacle to overcome was those damnable Skull Walkers. With the CR-006 having 20' by 18' legspan and the main body being 13' by 15' there wasnt much room to stick 6 of em without them being in the way. Than those accursed CR-004 Scout Spiders being 17 by 17...ARRGH! I had no choice by to squish up the legs in "storage mode" to about 10' each(the main body being 7' by itself) and have them stretch to walking dimensions...not to mention there were 40 of em.

Of course...I still havent tackled the SAMAS situation...Im gonna wait for that one *cough* A-Zero *cough* check PM *cough*

ADD-ON: There is one thing that I found interesting and correct me if I am wrong, but nowhere does it say that the Center Command Section have a bridge or flight crew. I know it states that the support DHTs have them but for the Command section all it states is division commanders and their staff and such. This leaves that whole neck area leading to the Dr. Claw inspired motif for these war rooms, communications, and bunks...just an observation.