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Tyciol wrote:Stupid idea I guess, and really hard to make, but damn that'd be cool.


Yup.

I suppose you just make the head from uranium... but then the tip would weigh one heck of a lot more than the entire shaft. Not sure how this would affect aerodynamics, but it wouldn't be good.

If you're wearing EBA though, you might try Uranium daggers or other melee weapons with throwing potential...
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They never say how much Uranium is needed to cause the effect. So it may just be the very tip of a target arrow or just the edge of a bladed broad head. Could have it vibro (don't start up on the vibro field crap again until you look in Japan). Vibro damages and penetrates the flesh. The broad head with a speck of U on it breaks off.
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..I think that's a bad idea for the simple fact that the majority of bow and arrow users in a world filled with high tech weapons are such because they are more earthy/concerned for the environment....

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Writers Block wrote:No real advantage to it, over bullets, cept that a gun fearing D Bee could use em...


Or any human barbarian who dosn't have or can't use guns. Remember anyone with the carpentry skill could make a bow. It's far more likely that tribals know basic carpentry then gun mechanics...

...that having been said, I think uranium arrows (again with the tips) could have a very limited market...
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MADMANMIKE wrote:..I think that's a bad idea for the simple fact that the majority of bow and arrow users in a world filled with high tech weapons are such because they are more earthy/concerned for the environment....

-Mike >8]


Unless it's someone from a different dimension that has special training with the bow like the PFRPG Archer, HU Special Training or Magic Item classes. Maybe the bow is magic and the user just uses the U heads as extra to make it unregeneratable.
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Never having held any uranium I wouldn't know for sure but I always figured the stuff was a lot like lead and wouldn't really hold an edge.
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Hystrix wrote: Remember anyone with the carpentry skill could make a bow.


Actually...no.

Making a bow, while at one time involving wood, had little to do with carpentry. Different skill set altogether, which is why they were called bowyers. :D

As for the U-arrow heads. & F'ed up flight characteristics...
counter ballance. Make the nock out of lead... :D
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Why bother with uranium?

Make a vibro warhead out of SODIUM... :twisted:
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Sodium...yes... :twisted:

Y'know what phosphorus does on exposure to Oxygen?

Sodium does the same thing on exposure to water, and the human body is 80% water or so by mass... :D

Instant critical third degree INTERNAL burns... :demon:
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Lucky wrote:
MADMANMIKE wrote:..I think that's a bad idea for the simple fact that the majority of bow and arrow users in a world filled with high tech weapons are such because they are more earthy/concerned for the environment....

-Mike >8]


not exactly. id use it, because its silent and stealthy. also alot easier to get past customs, for assassinations. hell, you can probably get away with the arrowhead on a chain around your neckuntil you needed it.


..Perhaps I should have said Ultra-Tech weapons... You don't live in the Rifts world, so what you would do doesn't count...

..Although I agree with you in our contemporary setting...

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Writers Block wrote:Yeah, you're right. Lossa tribal types out there with knowledge of uranium processing and safe handling techniques. :-P

And if you're talking trade, well I hope you also trade em the boxes needed to safely carry them, and make sure they never try killing foood with them...(see Triax ammo).


Don't diss the guy... High tech arrows have been an option in Rifts since... I guess sourcebook 1. If some people get MDC arrows with HE heads, the concept of uranium tipped (or U alloy if the pure metal is too soft to make a useful arrow tip).

But you're right... having to carry the arrows in a hermetic, inch thick lead case must be real fun, and getting them out for combat or hunting must be quite practical. Contrary to the Triax U rounds, that are stored in clips or drums which may be adequate shielding, and are extracted from there by the weapon's action, so no contact, plus they are used in weapons that are usually carried by borgs, bots, or PA pilots, so the user is shielded, those actually have to be taken out of their case for use... just hope the user and every friend nearby wear well shielded EBA or better...
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DarkWarriorKarg wrote:Arrows would be easier to find at night... so would the archer after a while... :-D


Uranium is only slightly radio active and is only considered toxic.
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Fulcrum wrote:Question: has anyone every considered using a bow for assassination attempts, considering it's a silent weapon? Or is it better to use something like a finger laser? I'm planning on my next character to be a Larhold Barbarian and I thought of using him as some kind of stealthy bow and arrow assassin.


Why use a bow and arrow for assassination? A laser is also silent and invisible (at least real ones are, unless they get refocused by a concave mirror and create a plasma burst then they make a little pop like a .22 cal. going off, pistol not rifle (long) round.
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Borast wrote:Why bother with uranium?

Make a vibro warhead out of SODIUM... :twisted:


Uh because it's supposed to be Vs. supernatural. How do you know what their bodies are composed of?

Why Sodium if your going against vampires use some grenades like Rambo with silver nitrate in them.
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Writers Block wrote:
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Writers Block wrote:No real advantage to it, over bullets, cept that a gun fearing D Bee could use em...


Or any human barbarian who dosn't have or can't use guns. Remember anyone with the carpentry skill could make a bow. It's far more likely that tribals know basic carpentry then gun mechanics...

...that having been said, I think uranium arrows (again with the tips) could have a very limited market...


Yeah, you're right. Lossa tribal types out there with knowledge of uranium processing and safe handling techniques. :-P

And if you're talking trade, well I hope you also trade em the boxes needed to safely carry them, and make sure they never try killing foood with them...(see Triax ammo).


Uranium is only sl...oh never mind here go look
http://chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu/periodic/U.html
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Borgs and bots don't need "adequete shielding"... :lol:
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Zer0 Kay wrote:
Uranium is only sl...oh never mind here go look
http://chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu/periodic/U.html


It's true that natural uranium is only slightly radioactive. However, I think the original poster was referring to the same type of "spent" uranium rounds as are used by Triax against supernatural enemies, and that type is radioactive.

Uranium is very hard, and also very heavy. I don't really see a benefit of making arrowheads out of normal uranium, as it has no special properties to speak of. It is very hard, but a bow still will not provide enough force to enable it to penetrate MDC materials, so that's pretty pointless. In effect, all you'd be doing is making excessivly heavy arrows for no real reason. It is the "spent", radioactive uranium which causes wounds which cannot be healed by supernatural creatures.

As for making arrowheads out of that stuff, I don't se why you couldn't but, as others have mentioned, it wouldn't exactly be the healthiest of weapons to be using ;).

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PigLickJF wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Uranium is only sl...oh never mind here go look
http://chemlab.pc.maricopa.edu/periodic/U.html


It's true that natural uranium is only slightly radioactive. However, I think the original poster was referring to the same type of "spent" uranium rounds as are used by Triax against supernatural enemies, and that type is radioactive.

Uranium is very hard, and also very heavy. I don't really see a benefit of making arrowheads out of normal uranium, as it has no special properties to speak of. It is very hard, but a bow still will not provide enough force to enable it to penetrate MDC materials, so that's pretty pointless. In effect, all you'd be doing is making excessivly heavy arrows for no real reason. It is the "spent", radioactive uranium which causes wounds which cannot be healed by supernatural creatures.

As for making arrowheads out of that stuff, I don't se why you couldn't but, as others have mentioned, it wouldn't exactly be the healthiest of weapons to be using ;).

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Pig lick. you're mixing up U rounds (refined, if not enriched uranium) that are used specifically byt Triax as anti supernatural weapons, because once embedded in the body of a supernatural/regenerating creature, they dramatically slow the regen process.

and DU rounds (Repleted Uranium), usually uranium waste from atmic reactors and the like, stuff that has lost most of its radioactive properties and is used because of its weight/density and hardness as superior ammo for slug throwing weapons, especially rail guns in Rifts, but DU is already used for the rounds of 30 mm vulcan guns, like that mounted in the tank kikker plane
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svartalf wrote:Pig lick. you're mixing up U rounds (refined, if not enriched uranium) that are used specifically byt Triax as anti supernatural weapons, because once embedded in the body of a supernatural/regenerating creature, they dramatically slow the regen process.

and DU rounds (Repleted Uranium), usually uranium waste from atmic reactors and the like, stuff that has lost most of its radioactive properties and is used because of its weight/density and hardness as superior ammo for slug throwing weapons, especially rail guns in Rifts, but DU is already used for the rounds of 30 mm vulcan guns, like that mounted in the tank kikker plane


Well, yah, I sorta had them mixed up- actually, I had the terms mixed up, but the idea right, hehe. I thought I remembered the Triax book saying they got U rounds from old nuclear reactors and such, ie "spent" (but still radioactive).

Anyway, despite the confusion with terms, what I said still stands, hehe. Making arrowheads of non-radioactive U (unenriched, depleted, or whatever) would be pretty pointless, and making them out of radioactive U would be dangerous to carry/use.

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