Radiation and Magical Armor

[chaserone]

Imagine the setting of nuclear explosion and a few days later, there is a radioactive cloud. I have a pc that has wandered into it not knowing what is going on and finding bodies of people lying around who have died from radiation sickness. He has decided to use the invulnerability tattoo just in case it is a noxious gas that he cant detect. He has no physical body armor, which usually has some sort of radiation shielding.

Would this shield him from further being bombarded by radioactivity or would he continue to progress into radiation sickness?

What about Armor of Ithan or Invincible armor or the various other magical armors?

[chaserone]

Well the blast site is nearby and not visible to him. Heh, he has no idea what a radioactive dust cloud is. However, there are a few nearby pcs that have donned thier armors cus they know what they are up against.

Mind you, the pc that is turning on his tattoo is pretty freaked out cus of all the bodies. He thinks a plague hit the area.

[chaserone]

by the way, the tattoo is the heart encircled by chains, I looked at the spell in the book of magic. It doesnt offer invulnerability to energy. Although, it does offer protection from poison, drugs, damage from explosions or falls and from all forms of physical attacks including MD weapons. page 239 book of magic

[Nekira Sudacne]

the magic tatto invunerability, the spell invunerability, as well as the spell Impervious to energy would all protect aginst fallout.

also, Invincible Armor would protect aginst it as well, as a full enviro suit it by definition has radiation shilding.

also, Mystic Knights are also always impervious to energy making them ideal for such situations (though how they have it permanat is beyond me, but. . .)

[chaserone]

I dont have that book. I have just the plain Aliens Unlimited book but not the Galaxy guide.

[Nekira Sudacne]

As I see it, things like impervious to energy only protect from energy attacks, like blasts, that will instantly destroy your cells.

Isn't radiation more of a poison, like a gas attack? I realize it's a kind of energy, but it just seems to me like more of an environmental hazard than an actual attack.

This isn't to say that magic armour spells won't protect against it, they may. If they keep water out while you go swimming or protect you from a vacuum, then they'll protect from radiation. If not... I wouldn't say so.

a poision attacks still an attack. and besides, it's common to see impervious to energy include radiation, like under the Mystic Knights.

[Athos]

Would this shield him from further being bombarded by radioactivity or would he continue to progress into radiation sickness?

What about Armor of Ithan or Invincible armor or the various other magical armors?

How realistic are you trying to be? There will be radiation in the dust he breathes in, the dirt he walks on, the water he drinks, etc. he may not be bombarded by beta or gamma rays, but he is still going to be effected by the alpha radiation.

Basically you just killed the poor sob unless you want to "help" him now. Once he picks up a few hundred Rads, ( which won't take long in a nuclear blast area or downwind from one ) his hair will fall out, he will feel weak and disoriented, he will start developing cancers, etc. That is some harsh role playing to put someone through.

[Killer Cyborg]

it's common to see impervious to energy include radiation, like under the Mystic Knights.

That's actually what makes me think that Radiation is usually not counted as energy. By saying "Impervious to Energy (including radiation)", it implies that being impervious to energy doesn't normally include protection from radiation.

[chaserone]

Would this shield him from further being bombarded by radioactivity or would he continue to progress into radiation sickness?

What about Armor of Ithan or Invincible armor or the various other magical armors?

How realistic are you trying to be? There will be radiation in the dust he breathes in, the dirt he walks on, the water he drinks, etc. he may not be bombarded by beta or gamma rays, but he is still going to be effected by the alpha radiation.

Basically you just killed the poor sob unless you want to "help" him now. Once he picks up a few hundred Rads, ( which won't take long in a nuclear blast area or downwind from one ) his hair will fall out, he will feel weak and disoriented, he will start developing cancers, etc. That is some harsh role playing to put someone through.

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I run an epic online campaign. One PC was fighting a group of coalition. He was whooping the crap out of them so there was a tactical bombardment of this area, which was right next to a town that was known for housing d-bees. Mind you, all participants involved were pcs. Days later, another group of pcs travels through. One of them happens to be the pc in question. I could "help" him as you say, but I couldn't really announce that there are rads in the area. That is what Geiger counters are for. This particular group of pcs sold thier only geiger counter for components for the group's technowizard.

I guess I would have another question... Would a pc with energy absorbtion/energy expulsion superpower be able to absorb the radiation?

[Svartalf]

Well the blast site is nearby and not visible to him. Heh, he has no idea what a radioactive dust cloud is. However, there are a few nearby pcs that have donned thier armors cus they know what they are up against.

Mind you, the pc that is turning on his tattoo is pretty freaked out cus of all the bodies. He thinks a plague hit the area.

And nobody told him a thing? your group looks nasty dysfunctional

[Ice Dragon]

Invulnerability will protect the characters body IMHO, but what about the lungs you are breathing so some of the stuff will go down the characters trachea. I would also recomment "Breathe without Air".

[chaserone]

Well, the person that has only magical armor was unaware and the other pcs were split up from him before entering the area. So... yeah. But if you want the honest truth, there are 50+ players in the online game and there is pking, backstabbing and all the like. This is why I have so many issues that I can bring up in the forum here, there is always something that can be questioned.

In this case, an earlier group had a fight with the CS group (no one was pked) and then this group arrives a few days later to walk into the aftermath. It wasnt my planning, this was the direction that they literally chose to go.

[chaserone]

what about triax and thier uranium rounds? They were specifically designed for supernatural creatures and creatures of magic. This was brought up by one of the players in my game.

[Dr. Doom III]

what about triax and thier uranium rounds? They were specifically designed for supernatural creatures and creatures of magic. This was brought up by one of the players in my game.

What about them exactly?
They would get sick in a contaminated environment too. If they were vulnerable at all.

[Ninjafingers]

I guess I would have another question... Would a pc with energy absorbtion/energy expulsion superpower be able to absorb the radiation?

I'm not that familiar with the two powers, but with the energy expulsion, unless it states specifically that the person expels radiation, I'd say it's just simply energy. As for the absorbtion power, possibly, but again I'd have to read it.

If only Palladium would publish my radiation article, all would be well.

[Nekira Sudacne]

Would this shield him from further being bombarded by radioactivity or would he continue to progress into radiation sickness?

What about Armor of Ithan or Invincible armor or the various other magical armors?

How realistic are you trying to be? There will be radiation in the dust he breathes in, the dirt he walks on, the water he drinks, etc. he may not be bombarded by beta or gamma rays, but he is still going to be effected by the alpha radiation.

Basically you just killed the poor sob unless you want to "help" him now. Once he picks up a few hundred Rads, ( which won't take long in a nuclear blast area or downwind from one ) his hair will fall out, he will feel weak and disoriented, he will start developing cancers, etc. That is some harsh role playing to put someone through.

dosn't matter if he breaths it in or ig it's alpha, beta, or gamma, he's immune to them all.

[Nekira Sudacne]

it's common to see impervious to energy include radiation, like under the Mystic Knights.

That's actually what makes me think that Radiation is usually not counted as energy. By saying "Impervious to Energy (including radiation)", it implies that being impervious to energy doesn't normally include protection from radiation.

ummm, in that case lasers arn't energy either. . . actually no form of energy would make them immune.


they clarifed in genereal.

[Nekira Sudacne]

yes, the super ability of energy absorption would allow the character to absorbe the radiation, the radiation is still an energy sorce of sorts, its a great way to get ride of the rads, but does it not also hurt the pc using the power? is it not still x damage strait to hp for every round that there doing this? and if so, that could really suck for that pc.

it does not hurt the PC using it.

[Shiva7]

there are three main types of radiation...

Alpha particles are just ionized helium particles traveling with some degree of velocity. This radiation is fairly harmless and will not even penetrate a cardboard box. this radiation may cause some genetic and cellular damage to the skin, but won't go much deeper than that.

Beta particles are just electrons traveling with some degree of velocity. This radiation can penetrate deeper into the body and cause genetic and cellular damage to muscle tissues and such.

Gamma Rays are pur energy. The particles are very hgh energy photos and can penetrate through a fair bit of material. X-rays are just lower energy photons, but still more dangerous than UV, which can panatrate skin and a little muscle.

Both Alpha and Beta particles use Kinetic Energy absorption as a means to damage cells and DNA. UVA/B/C, X-Rays, and Gamma Rays are absorbed on a quantum level and should be considered pur energy.

In my personal opinion. Impervious to Energy should offer partial protection, thus all damage from radiation is reduced to 1/3 (the most damaging form of radiation are pur energy!). Anything that offers both protection from kinetic damage and energy damage would provide complete protection.

Supernatural creatures should be handled differently...

U-rounds only prevent regeneration of damage caused by the U-rounds, all other damage can be healed normally. Thus, Supernatural creatures would not be affected by radiation because any damage caused would be easily repaired by their bio-regenerative powers. Any damage sustained while in a contaminated environment heals normally (or perhaps reduce the healing abality by 1/3 for extremely contaminated environments). why you ask...

U-rounds prevent regeneration because they are flooding the site or injury with direct radiation, but they can't stop a creature from regenerating other damage, thus the dose of radiation must be localized to inhibit regeneration.