Where is your Cardania?

Kalinda · Unread post by **Kalinda** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 1:45 am

The book is intentionally vague about the location of Cardania and the Empire of Humanity. No doubt so GMs have more freedom in setting up their games. So my question is: where do you place the major players in your game?

acreRake · Unread post by **acreRake** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:16 am

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/cuttingroom/images/atbmap1.jpg *shrug*

Kalinda · Unread post by **Kalinda** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:29 am

acreRake wrote:http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/cuttingroom/images/atbmap1.jpg *shrug*

See now, it never occurred to me that pb would have a map of the relevant area and choose to not put it in the book.
No offence to anyone involved in the production end, but I just can't think that stupid.

Thanks acreRake.

acreRake · Unread post by **acreRake** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:56 am

That's acreRake. Get it right. :crane:

Kalinda · Unread post by **Kalinda** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:00 am

Oops

Noted and corrected. :-P

Rali · Unread post by **Rali** » Wed Jan 05, 2005 11:02 am

I think the main reason they did not print the map, was so that GM's could create the setting the way they wanted to. That and the map was way outta wack on scale and locations when compared to any modern maps of the region (but hey, it is a fantasy setting).

Warmaster40k · Unread post by **Warmaster40k** » Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:35 pm

Angryjack wrote:they just forgot to include it ... it's located in modern day Virginia. which is totally ironic, cause virgina is a religious bigoted hellhole now...
I guess it was author's bias...
personally I think New Kennel doesnt' really belong in new jersey, too much of a mutant buffe zone.

ummm no. seems like you never been there. but virginia has the largest military presense on the east coast.
so it would make sense for cardania to be there it would give them the tech to survive
but then agian i hail from the coast of virginia

gordyzx9r · Unread post by **gordyzx9r** » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:45 am

Angryjack wrote:Cardania's military might is nowhere that of the empire of humanity, yet the empire of humanity has all the major high tech and cardania has all the high tech of a .. Cuban military prison

I wouldn't put Cardania that far down, they're supposed to be at a '50s level of tech. The EoH isn't all that when you compare their numbers and tech to the general descriptions that are in AtB2 in regards to European powers.

Sentinel · Unread post by **Sentinel** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 11:26 am

Warmaster40k wrote:
Angryjack wrote:they just forgot to include it ... it's located in modern day Virginia. which is totally ironic, cause virgina is a religious bigoted hellhole now...
I guess it was author's bias...
personally I think New Kennel doesnt' really belong in new jersey, too much of a mutant buffe zone.

ummm no. seems like you never been there. but virginia has the largest military presense on the east coast.
so it would make sense for cardania to be there it would give them the tech to survive
but then agian i hail from the coast of virginia

Amen. Damn Yankees, dissing our Southern home. Virginia Rocks!
Between Norfolk Naval, and the Pentagon up here, and all the defense contractors in between, you got a whole lot of military presence. Plus, hot VA women.

Agent_gir · Unread post by **Agent_gir** » Thu Jan 20, 2005 10:30 pm

Rali wrote:I think the main reason they did not print the map, was so that GM's could create the setting the way they wanted to. That and the map was way outta wack on scale and locations when compared to any modern maps of the region (but hey, it is a fantasy setting).

The map was printed in after the bomb... the 80's version, it's the first page

BookWyrm · Unread post by **BookWyrm** » Tue May 10, 2005 11:14 pm

Clicking on the link provided by acreRake makes it also available.

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:25 am

Agent_gir wrote:
Rali wrote:I think the main reason they did not print the map, was so that GM's could create the setting the way they wanted to. That and the map was way outta wack on scale and locations when compared to any modern maps of the region (but hey, it is a fantasy setting).

The map was printed in after the bomb... the 80's version, it's the first page

The TMNT version, right?

gordyzx9r · Unread post by **gordyzx9r** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:29 am

The only thing I don't like about Cardania...is the name of the capital. Smoketown!?! I'd throw a coup just because of the city's name if I had to live there.

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:19 pm

gordyzx9r wrote:The only thing I don't like about Cardania...is the name of the capital. Smoketown!?! I'd throw a coup just because of the city's name if I had to live there.

If you did you would probably be.......smoked. :lol:

Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:32 pm

Rali wrote:I think the main reason they did not print the map, was so that GM's could create the setting the way they wanted to. That and the map was way outta wack on scale and locations when compared to any modern maps of the region (but hey, it is a fantasy setting).

Nope, they forget to include it. That's why it was posted on the Cutting Room Floor (after I had to nag Maryann about it for a month or so).

The real question should be, "Where in the hell in Cardania is the capital, Smoketown?"

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Fri May 13, 2005 1:04 pm

Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
Rali wrote:I think the main reason they did not print the map, was so that GM's could create the setting the way they wanted to. That and the map was way outta wack on scale and locations when compared to any modern maps of the region (but hey, it is a fantasy setting).

Nope, they forget to include it. That's why it was posted on the Cutting Room Floor (after I had to nag Maryann about it for a month or so).

The real question should be, "Where in the hell in Cardania is the capital, Smoketown?"

It's a riddle worthy of the Simpson's Springfield.

Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Fri May 13, 2005 1:08 pm

Jesterzzn wrote:It's a riddle worthy of the Simpson's Springfield.

Not really, everyone knows that it's near Shellbyville. :lol:

Rali · Unread post by **Rali** » Fri May 13, 2005 3:58 pm

Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
Rali wrote:I think the main reason they did not print the map, was so that GM's could create the setting the way they wanted to. That and the map was way outta wack on scale and locations when compared to any modern maps of the region (but hey, it is a fantasy setting).

Nope, they forget to include it. That's why it was posted on the Cutting Room Floor (after I had to nag Maryann about it for a month or so).

The real question should be, "Where in the hell in Cardania is the capital, Smoketown?"

Smoke town was built on/in/near the ruins of Richmond, Virginia. I made a map of Cardania with 8 counties for a game. The city is located in Richmond County (the maroon coloured rectangle)

[Here's Another Map]

"Smoketown" was actually the nickname of Richmond due to the Tobacoo industry located there (I found that little bit of trivia a few years ago when I was putting together some research, unfortunately I can't remember where I found it.)

gordyzx9r · Unread post by **gordyzx9r** » Fri May 13, 2005 9:10 pm

I thought it was written somewhere (maybe posted by Erick) that Smoketown was indeed located on the ruins of Richmond.