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Interesting conscept. This could make a cool Rifter submission...
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Very good stuff matt, you should consider submitting it to the rifter when you get it finished.
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i always wondered how such a blantantly evil orginization was treated so well by the "goody-goody" groups. it can't just be "treat me well or i'll kill you"

heck, lazlo doesn't like the FoM under the Magi, and they're fairly benign.

hmm......

perhaps the MN's relations with groups in lazlo and the like are with the secret cults that are hunted by the nations in question? then they'll have connections, and can get info, while not having to deal with goverments.
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nice idea
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Interesting material, it definitely warrants further work. My only real gripe about it is that the orders seem a tad off. Use a more governmental or military approach when determining the specialties of each (you mix and match categorization methods). Then use a little common sense when naming them (i.e.: Dragoons could be melee experts, Shadows or Spectres could specialize in assassination, Cloaks could be spies, etc.). I'd be happy to help you flesh it out if you would like. Just drop a message in my box if you're interested.
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Warwolf wrote:Interesting material, it definitely warrants further work. My only real gripe about it is that the orders seem a tad off. Use a more governmental or military approach when determining the specialties of each (you mix and match categorization methods). Then use a little common sense when naming them (i.e.: Dragoons could be melee experts, Shadows or Spectres could specialize in assassination, Cloaks could be spies, etc.). I'd be happy to help you flesh it out if you would like. Just drop a message in my box if you're interested.


naa, I like the fact they're not using Military meathods.

these arn't military people.
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I have idea one of the 12 Orders are Human Supremacists in Secret.

They have been hire from time to time by the Vanguard,the Society of Sages and the 1st Apocalyptic Cavalry.

What do you think?
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Nekira Sudacne wrote:naa, I like the fact they're not using Military meathods. these arn't military people.


No, but you would at least think they would play to their strengths rather than divide up into "poetry club" and such. :nh: I would treat this more like a medieval assassin's guild than a merc company. Get it now?
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Warwolf wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:naa, I like the fact they're not using Military meathods. these arn't military people.


No, but you would at least think they would play to their strengths rather than divide up into "poetry club" and such. :nh: I would treat this more like a medieval assassin's guild than a merc company. Get it now?


these guys are also MYSTICS. not just mercenaries or soldgiers. meaning they're at least somewhat philosphical at heart. many people seem to forget that.
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I really dig this...send it in for a Rifter, or better yet, a minibook, like Vanguard and the Black Vault books.

Suhweeeeeeet!

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This definitely has potential - run with it.
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Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Warwolf wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:naa, I like the fact they're not using Military meathods. these arn't military people.


No, but you would at least think they would play to their strengths rather than divide up into "poetry club" and such. :nh: I would treat this more like a medieval assassin's guild than a merc company. Get it now?


these guys are also MYSTICS. not just mercenaries or soldgiers. meaning they're at least somewhat philosphical at heart. many people seem to forget that.


No, I do understand that. I also understand that samurai were expected to be cultured as well as deadly. The point I was trying to make was that in all common sense an organization of mercenaries (while mystic in nature and in all probability refined in culture) would organize their ranks according to their practical strengths rather than their casual interests. Seriously, who ever heard of a Ninja gardening club? :lol: That last line was a joke by the way...
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Re: Constructive Criticism

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Warwolf wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Warwolf wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:naa, I like the fact they're not using Military meathods. these arn't military people.


No, but you would at least think they would play to their strengths rather than divide up into "poetry club" and such. :nh: I would treat this more like a medieval assassin's guild than a merc company. Get it now?


these guys are also MYSTICS. not just mercenaries or soldgiers. meaning they're at least somewhat philosphical at heart. many people seem to forget that.


No, I do understand that. I also understand that samurai were expected to be cultured as well as deadly. The point I was trying to make was that in all common sense an organization of mercenaries (while mystic in nature and in all probability refined in culture) would organize their ranks according to their practical strengths rather than their casual interests. Seriously, who ever heard of a Ninja gardening club? :lol: That last line was a joke by the way...


you DO realize that not only is common sense very rare, it makes life less fun?
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[quote="Nekira Sudacne]you DO realize that not only is common sense very rare, it makes life less fun?[/quote]

Hey, it keeps people alive doesn't it? Well, I see how that could not be fun...nevermind, forget I said that. NO, I do NOT have bodies buried in my basement...they're all in my back yard. :demon:
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Ghost Dog? Wasn't Forrest Whittaker in that? :-P

I'm kidding. Thats great stuff. MK's are a favorite of mine too. I wish I had the 10th lvl Demigod I made a few years back to share with you.

I also had a 5th lvl Elven one that really, really confused my PC's. She had two personas. My players had no idea their beautiful elf friend was the one that was stirring up the local mine monsters to attack the town.
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Re: Mystic Knights

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MattLing wrote:Federation of Magic, when it presents the most excellent Mystic Knight OCC gives us a tantalizing glimpse at this organization of evil counterparts to the Cyber-Knight.

I present here some of my notes extrapolated from the subject...

Mystic Knight bases of operation:

Fort Knox Complex
~Main Base of Operation and Organization
~Use <40% of the old complex, which has been dug out and "redecorated"
~Vaults are used for secret meetings, holding prisoners, monsters, and a variety of other purposes

Blue Ridge Retreat
~Center for meditation-- remember, Mystic Knights are Mystics at heart
~Occaisionally used as a base for extradimensional operations
~Sanctuary where grudges are put aside

Quebec Center
~"Embassy" with Lazlo(!) and several other indie kingdoms
~Co-ordinate with Splugorth Activity from Newfoundland
~All-around fortress
~Avoided by travellers, occaisionally bothered by Free Quebec
~Occupies the "no-man's land" between Lazlo and FQ-- each side demands the other do something about it

Mystic Knights, despite being hated and feared, are often treated courteously, especially by indie kingdoms. The reason for this is twofold: While on one hand you dont want to displease one and risk his wrath, they also are very good to hire! In fact, in many communities, Mystic Knights end up performing most of the same duties (monster slaying, deposing tyrants, axeing bandits, etc) as their more altruistic opposits, the Cyber-Knights!

The organization of the Eternal Order of Mystic Knights is as follows:

The Master of the Eternal Order of Mystic Knights
Chosen from amongst the 12-member council below, he is the "first among equals", but remember that some Knights are a lot more equal than others.

Council
12 Lords, each of the 12 respective Orders of the Mystic Knights. It meets once a year in the Fort Knox complex or in emergencies.

Cavaliers
The vast, vast majority of all Knights are members of one of 12 Orders. Each of these Orders is a nearly-independent organization. Each Knight is answerable only to his Lord, and each Order has a different way of organizing (or disorganizing) itself, ranging from strict heirarchies to egalitarian democracies to total chaos.

12 Orders:
The Order of [the]:
~Pale Eye- A mysterious and secretive body, this Order believes that introspection is the key to all understanding-- and that keeping an eye on everything else that happens is good for business. Spies beyond compare, they tend to have their hands in a bit of everything. They are also unbelievably paranoid and tend not to trust anyone. The Lord is whomever can do the best job of "disappearing" his rivals until none dare challenge him. Members of this order are also known as "Watchers".
~Bleeding Heart- Characterized by rigid egalitarianism (at least philosophically), this Order is quite democratic and actually elects their own Lord from amongst themselves. They tend towards charisma, extroversion and tend to be "people oriented", even if it's through massacres, genocide, or torture. They are known as "Keepers".
~Black Rose- More "sensitive" perhaps than many other Knights, this Order is full of those who might have otherwise become musicians, poets, or writers. They tend towards passionate extremes, most especially when it comes to violence. They are oft-lampooned by others for being romantics, but any joke at their expense must be made carefully, or you'll probably never be seen again. The Lord of the Black Rose is chosen through a contest-- but not a joust or duel, a poetry contest.
~Laughing Death- Known as "Jesters", these Knights find a little humor in everyting. Though the humor often escapes the victims of their elaborate, ironic schemes, they never fail to leave one last clue at the end to complete the punchline. Nobody is truly safe from these psychotic manipulators and schemers, and any time they are victorious, the loser can expect to hear their laughter before whatever vicious (but ironically amusing!) death comes to meet him.
~Ghost Dog- Loyal retainers all, these Knights will complete whatever task they have been hired for. At any cost. Persistent is a good word to characterise these guys, because once their loyalty has been bought (never cheaply), they will never rest until their task is complete. If you double-cross one, though, make sure you finish him off or you'll be next on his list.
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There is also an extraordinarily secret 13th order, that of the White Rose. There are barely 100 members of this organization in the entire Megaverse, none of whom know each other save the Lord, who knows of each member (though it is unlikely they would recognize him). This Thirteenth Order is a bag of worms all its own.
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There is also an extraordinarily secret 13th order, that of the White Rose. There are barely 100 members of this organization in the entire Megaverse, none of whom know each other save the Lord, who knows of each member (though it is unlikely they would recognize him). This Thirteenth Order is a bag of worms all its own.


hm......mind if i make a guess on the White Rose group?

back in the 1940's, the White Rose was a group of German students that circulated Anti-nazi propoganda, and who were eventually executed for it.

so my guess on the white rose mystic knghts are members who have "seen the light" and are working to change the rest of the orginization for the better.


how close did i get?
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Illithid13 wrote:
Hystrix wrote:Interesting conscept. This could make a cool Rifter submission...


I second that. Great job! :ok:


I agree. Write it up, flesh it out, and send that bad boy to the Rifter. Maybe in 18-36 months it will see print.
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MattLing wrote:
Warwolf wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:naa, I like the fact they're not using Military meathods. these arn't military people.


No, but you would at least think they would play to their strengths rather than divide up into "poetry club" and such. :nh: I would treat this more like a medieval assassin's guild than a merc company. Get it now?


They're knightly orders. They affiliate to one another based on their philosophies and methods. What's impractical about that?


I can see that reasoning with you is like trying to drive a railroad spike through six-inch steel... do what you will, I'm not gonna argue my points on it with you. :nh:
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The Mystic knights are found in russia too.

I have one woking for Warlord Sokolov,she is Planting to take him out and replace him with a War-Knight who she have influence on.
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