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Create a kata, and then we'll see how interesting you think it is.
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Base it on vegetables. Or Milk. Just don't make another "animal" or "water" kata.
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Jesterzzn wrote:Base it on vegetables. Or Milk. Just don't make another "animal" or "water" kata.


What about a "void" kata. :lol:
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ash_wednesday wrote:I know that in some martial arts, when you reach black belt, part of the test you have to make a new kata. I think that could be an interesting twist in a N&SS game.


ok....

all martial art's teach numerous kata. it's part of learning the art.

only some "specialty" kata's have any in game effect.

the kata's you prepose would be the former catagory, I.E. no actual combat benifit.

although if you wish to make new one's we'll always willing to listen :)
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Nekira Sudacne wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:I know that in some martial arts, when you reach black belt, part of the test you have to make a new kata. I think that could be an interesting twist in a N&SS game.


ok....

all martial art's teach numerous kata. it's part of learning the art.

only some "specialty" kata's have any in game effect.

the kata's you prepose would be the former catagory, I.E. no actual combat benifit.

although if you wish to make new one's we'll always willing to listen :)
...and provide indepth critiques. ;)
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ash_wednesday wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:I know that in some martial arts, when you reach black belt, part of the test you have to make a new kata. I think that could be an interesting twist in a N&SS game.


ok....

all martial art's teach numerous kata. it's part of learning the art.

only some "specialty" kata's have any in game effect.

the kata's you prepose would be the former catagory, I.E. no actual combat benifit.

although if you wish to make new one's we'll always willing to listen :)
Oh wait, I see your point and you're right. But I would think that they would try a make a kata that deals with combat with N&SS type of envirment


Well, they could always try to make a new Weapon Kata. Of course, new kata would really only be useful to styles that could take kata in the first place. It would be pretty pointless for a, Tien Hsueh touch master for instance, to make a new kata.
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Originally posted by ash_wednesday.
I know that in some martial arts, when you reach black belt, part of the test you have to make a new kata. I think that could be an interesting twist in a N&SS game.
Originally posted by Nekira Sudacne.
All martial arts teach numerous kata. It's part of learning the art. Only some "specialty" kata have any in game effect. The kata you propose would be the former category, I.E. no actual combat benefit.
Non-combat kata can be interesting. I've created a few.
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Mantisking wrote:
Originally posted by ash_wednesday.
I know that in some martial arts, when you reach black belt, part of the test you have to make a new kata. I think that could be an interesting twist in a N&SS game.
Originally posted by Nekira Sudacne.
All martial arts teach numerous kata. It's part of learning the art. Only some "specialty" kata have any in game effect. The kata you propose would be the former category, I.E. no actual combat benefit.
Non-combat kata can be interesting. I've created a few.


true. but the kind he seemed to be talking about were more training and exersie kata than techniques used for combat in his origional post
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Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Mantisking wrote:
Originally posted by ash_wednesday.
I know that in some martial arts, when you reach black belt, part of the test you have to make a new kata. I think that could be an interesting twist in a N&SS game.
Originally posted by Nekira Sudacne.
All martial arts teach numerous kata. It's part of learning the art. Only some "specialty" kata have any in game effect. The kata you propose would be the former category, I.E. no actual combat benefit.
Non-combat kata can be interesting. I've created a few.


true. but the kind he seemed to be talking about were more training and exersie kata than techniques used for combat in his origional post


Heh, I can see it now, "Body Hardening Special Kata."
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Originally posted by Kuseru Satsujin.
Heh, I can see it now, "Body Hardening Special Kata."
I've done Kata that duplicate the effects of Body Hardening Exercises.
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Mantisking wrote:
Originally posted by Kuseru Satsujin.
Heh, I can see it now, "Body Hardening Special Kata."
I've done Kata that duplicate the effects of Body Hardening Exercises.


While I can see how easy it is to implement such an idea, I think it sort of ruins the purpose of breaking down the martial art powers into categories.
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ash_wednesday wrote:
Mantisking wrote:
Originally posted by Kuseru Satsujin.
Heh, I can see it now, "Body Hardening Special Kata."
I've done Kata that duplicate the effects of Body Hardening Exercises.
How could you do that? Aren't katas a form of movment?


Pretty easily actually. Kata are pre-programmed movements, that doesn't mean you don't get exercise out of them.
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Originally posted by me.
I've done Kata that duplicate the effects of Body Hardening Exercises.
Originally posted by ash_wednesday.
How could you do that? Aren't katas a form of movment?
Yup. And these movements generate the mindset neccesary for the "Body Hardening". But since Special Kata are locked in for the Melee Round, it limits you to use/not use and paying whatever price is neccesary to activate the kata.

Originally posted by Kuseru.
While I can see how easy it is to implement such an idea, I think it sort of ruins the purpose of breaking down the martial art powers into categories.
{*shrug*} I think it's fun creating kata that blur the borders of the categories. It also allows styles to be more unconventional when using these kata.
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macksting wrote:Why do you get the impression he's talking about non-combat kata? I figured he was saying, "a black belt is sufficiently a master to start finding new and unheard-of combat applications."

Critique me.


a body hardenening kata couldn't be used in combat as it wouldn't really DO anything other than give you exersise.
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Originally posted by macksting.
I figured he was saying, "a black belt is sufficiently a master to start finding new and unheard-of combat applications."
Actually a black belt would be discovering all the techniques hidden within the kata he was taught.
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