most dangerous/lethal occ/rcc in rifts

[Dustin Fireblade]

Of that list? The Mind Melter.

[Rimmerdal]

Mind melter..Lots of ways to kill and can do alot more than kill. Psionics don't need words, and juicer can't run faster than you can think...

[Nxla666]

Could not decide so I went with the mind melter, so many powers, so many way to use a lot of them. Second choice would be a Headhunter.

[finn69]

techno-wizard...all the way

[Guest]

Have to go with crazies. noone kills a group of PCs faster then a crazy.

"Gee what's that button do?" "BOOOOM!

Yep.

Also great when the group is trying to sneak around, and the Crazy has a Psychotic Episode triggered by a small woodland creature which starts a huge firefight.

[Killer Cyborg]

what are your opinions on the most dangerous/lethal occ/rcc in rifts?

Whichever one I'm playing.

[Dr. Doom III]

Temporal Warrior.

[Guest]

There are varying levels of combat. Open firefight, i'd go with a Full Conversion Borg and his TX-500 Rail Gun. A bar, i'd go with a burster. Sneaking wise, the Mystic Ninja takes the cake. It depends on how you fight. Out of that list I say crazies, because of their uncanny ability to kill fellow PC's with their actions.

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

what are your opinions on the most dangerous/lethal occ/rcc in rifts?

Whichever one I'm playing.

Oooh...nice answer.

I clicked "other" and will be throwing my chips in with the Lanotaur from Psi-scape.

[Killer Cyborg]

Mind Melter.

"Oh it sure is stuffy in that helmet. Why don't you take it off? Oh come now, I'm unarmed and your a big skilled soldier. There you go."

*Mind Bolt* "Oh, I've melted another one's mind."

Heck, according to Wayne Breaux Mind Bolt's are pure mental damage that bypass armor... so you can skip that first step...

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

Mind Melter.

"Oh it sure is stuffy in that helmet. Why don't you take it off? Oh come now, I'm unarmed and your a big skilled soldier. There you go."

*Mind Bolt* "Oh, I've melted another one's mind."

Heck, according to Wayne Breaux Mind Bolt's are pure mental damage that bypass armor... so you can skip that first step...

According to Breaux there is a "Preserve" in the Xiticix Hivelands....

[Killer Cyborg]

Mind Melter.

"Oh it sure is stuffy in that helmet. Why don't you take it off? Oh come now, I'm unarmed and your a big skilled soldier. There you go."

*Mind Bolt* "Oh, I've melted another one's mind."

Heck, according to Wayne Breaux Mind Bolt's are pure mental damage that bypass armor... so you can skip that first step...

According to Breaux there is a "Preserve" in the Xiticix Hivelands....

I must have missed that one....

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

Mind Melter.

"Oh it sure is stuffy in that helmet. Why don't you take it off? Oh come now, I'm unarmed and your a big skilled soldier. There you go."

*Mind Bolt* "Oh, I've melted another one's mind."

Heck, according to Wayne Breaux Mind Bolt's are pure mental damage that bypass armor... so you can skip that first step...

According to Breaux there is a "Preserve" in the Xiticix Hivelands....

I must have missed that one....

One of the "Preserves" in Spirit West is placed in the Hivelands...both via old descriptions and the Xiticix World Book.

That Preserve is not there in my campaigns or even in my vision of the Rifts World when I write unsolicited manuscripts.

[Scooter the Outlaw]

I clicked "other" and will be throwing my chips in with the Lanotaur from Psi-scape.

Most definitely... can't think of anything much scarier than having one of these things decide it wants to kill you.

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

I clicked "other" and will be throwing my chips in with the Lanotaur from Psi-scape.

Most definitely... can't think of anything much scarier than having one of these things decide it wants to kill you.

I once rolled up one as an NPC...and rolled horribly on his attributes...he was still beyond bad ass.

[cornholioprime]

I said other.
Neo-human R.C.C. of New Anchillies in South America.
They are much more powerfull then a mindmelter since you start your charachter with the mind melter just as a beginning step.

Until I see/remember something "better" I'll go with this one for now.........

[Preacher]

what are your opinions on the most dangerous/lethal occ/rcc in rifts?

Whichever one I'm playing.

I clicked "other" and will be throwing my chips in with the Lanotaur from Psi-scape.

Ditto

[Josh Sinsapaugh]

Juicers can take O.C.C. variations.

The Scout
The Gladiator
and the Assassin.

All of them found in Juicer Uprising.

[Guest]

Mind Melter.

"Oh it sure is stuffy in that helmet. Why don't you take it off? Oh come now, I'm unarmed and your a big skilled soldier. There you go."

*Mind Bolt* "Oh, I've melted another one's mind."

Heck, according to Wayne Breaux Mind Bolt's are pure mental damage that bypass armor... so you can skip that first step...

According to Breaux there is a "Preserve" in the Xiticix Hivelands....

I must have missed that one....

If Mind Bolts go through armour then Mind Melters just became one of the strongest OCCs anywhere, with the ability to do mega-damage that ignores armour, juicing a normal, fully armoured person in a single attack.

Don't forget shockwave attack from Vibration Super Power.

Better Option: Vibrate to become Intangible.

You can Vibrate through Inorganic Substances at 1/3 Speed.

Take a Sword that does Mega-Damage, hit someone in Inorganic Armor with it, it goes through their armor, slowing down, but still doing 1/3rd Damage...1/3rd of Mega-Damage is still going to kill a squishy dead.

[Dead Boy]

What? No Cosmo Knights, or Apoks, or Atlantian Conservators? Any one of them would wipe the floor with all of the above.

[Darksoul]

I would have to vote for the unpredictable multiple personality crazy

[Killer Cyborg]

What? No Cosmo Knights, or Apoks, or Atlantian Conservators? Any one of them would wipe the floor with all of the above.

Prove to me that they can "wipe the floor" with a Neo-Human and Ill take your post as intelligent.

The Vibration thing was from the FanFAQ, and as for proof...read Phase World, Wormwood, and Atlantis, respectively.

Your getting my Neo-Human post mixed up with my vibration one. Thier two different subjects I was posting about. Vibration has nothing to do with Neo-Humans.

Reread the part where he tells you that Proof is in Phase World, Wormwood, and Atlantis.
That's addressing your post at hand; Cosmo Knights are in Phase World, Apoks are in Wormwood, and Conservators are in Atlantis.

[Killer Cyborg]

What? No Cosmo Knights, or Apoks, or Atlantian Conservators? Any one of them would wipe the floor with all of the above.

Prove to me that they can "wipe the floor" with a Neo-Human and Ill take your post as intelligent.

The Vibration thing was from the FanFAQ, and as for proof...read Phase World, Wormwood, and Atlantis, respectively.

Your getting my Neo-Human post mixed up with my vibration one. Thier two different subjects I was posting about. Vibration has nothing to do with Neo-Humans.

Reread the part where he tells you that Proof is in Phase World, Wormwood, and Atlantis.
That's addressing your post at hand; Cosmo Knights are in Phase World, Apoks are in Wormwood, and Conservators are in Atlantis.

Then he should of clarified it better! Besides, that isn't proof.

Did you compare stats?

[Damian Magecraft]

I voted Other

The most lethal/dangerous Occ/Pcc/Rcc in rifts?

All of them.

Its not the stats that make a O/P/Rcc lethal/dangerous its the mind controling them that does.

[Guest]

Mind Melter.

"Oh it sure is stuffy in that helmet. Why don't you take it off? Oh come now, I'm unarmed and your a big skilled soldier. There you go."

*Mind Bolt* "Oh, I've melted another one's mind."

Heck, according to Wayne Breaux Mind Bolt's are pure mental damage that bypass armor... so you can skip that first step...

According to Breaux there is a "Preserve" in the Xiticix Hivelands....

I must have missed that one....

If Mind Bolts go through armour then Mind Melters just became one of the strongest OCCs anywhere, with the ability to do mega-damage that ignores armour, juicing a normal, fully armoured person in a single attack.

Don't forget shockwave attack from Vibration Super Power.

Better Option: Vibrate to become Intangible.

You can Vibrate through Inorganic Substances at 1/3 Speed.

Take a Sword that does Mega-Damage, hit someone in Inorganic Armor with it, it goes through their armor, slowing down, but still doing 1/3rd Damage...1/3rd of Mega-Damage is still going to kill a squishy dead.

80. Using the power of 'Vibration', can a hero use the ability 'Vibrate Through Substances' to punch/kick someone through their armor? Under the power's description, it says that the only substances that cannot be passed thru are living, organic substances. Speed is also reduced to 1/3. So, can a physical attack be made through an opponent's inorganic armor? If so, is the damage reduced by 1/3 because the Spd is 1/3?
Answer: No, it is not possible to use this power to vibrate a punch through armor.

Ah yes, an attempt to preserve the Balance and prevent instakills?

Edge says: It's crap, so you could stick a blade or your hand through a wall at 1/3 speed, but if you happen to hit a suit of body armor made of identical material, you get stopped by the "Instakill Prevention Barrier".

[Guest]

That doesn't matter though.

They aren't becoming intangible to go a certain distance, just vibrating so they can pass through inorganic matter.

Meaning, if you stuck your hand through a wall, and there was someone on the on the other side, you could tap them on the shoulder, much to their surprise...

But you couldn't force your hand as fast as you could through the wall and punch them apparently, because if you can't do it through body armor, why could you do it through anything else, right?

Lame/10.

[Guest]

That doesn't matter though.

They aren't becoming intangible to go a certain distance, just vibrating so they can pass through inorganic matter.

Meaning, if you stuck your hand through a wall, and there was someone on the on the other side, you could tap them on the shoulder, much to their surprise...

But you couldn't force your hand as fast as you could through the wall and punch them apparently, because if you can't do it through body armor, why could you do it through anything else, right?

Lame/10.

Yeah, I might allow people to go through armour, but only with punches and kicks and so forth. And I'm not sure I'd let them vibrate MD weapons through armour, and they probably shouldn't have supernatural strength. As lame as it is, I don't really want a character running around killing thousands by putting vibro-knives through enemies' armour.

Well, they would become Evil, and get hunted if they killed that many people.

Would definitely make a name for themselves.

Not to mention, they wouldn't get jack for experience.

A high level CS Officer suddenly becomes a Minor Menace at the low end of the scale.

I would allow it with Weapons if it was a Super Invention from Powers Unlimited that had the power.

[Rimmerdal]

Other

Whose more dangerous? The man that kills people, or the man that invents a "better" way to do so?

Or what about a character that spreads revolutionary ideas? One that gains wisdom from the past successes and failures of others to ensure their own success?

I'd say a Rogue Scientist or Scholar are the most dangerous O.C.C's from the main book. The Coalition would probably think so atleast.

I thnk we're talking combat...BUT an operator would know weapons inside out...hence the right weapon he'd be lethal with the right knowledge...but I still vote Mind Melter.

[Guest]

Technically.

It is a Vagabond.

With Superpowers.

Pick and Choose, but there are combos of Superpowers that simply cannot be matched for destructive capability, or survivability.

[Rimmerdal]

ANy character played by Batman...

[RainOfSteel]

I voted Other

The most lethal/dangerous Occ/Pcc/Rcc in rifts?

All of them.

Its not the stats that make a O/P/Rcc lethal/dangerous its the mind controling them that does.

"The quality of the crate matters little. Success depends upon who sits in it."
--Baron Manfred von Richtofen

[Gomen_Nagai]

Mind melters without a doubt, with the right powers they can go kill any human in their sleep or plain of day.

[Qev]

I'd have to say...

Game Master OCC.

Of course, if you're allowing Heros Unlimited Conversions, I once made a character with metalform, immune to magic, and extremely resistant to psionics... that gets hard to beat.

[Randomfist]

The problem would be actually, well, throwing him onto Jupiter!

[Kalinda]

Floopers, definitely Floopers. They act all lazy and harmless, but you let your guard down for one second around those little buggers and they'll eat your heart raw...

[Damian Magecraft]

I voted Other

The most lethal/dangerous Occ/Pcc/Rcc in rifts?

All of them.

Its not the stats that make a O/P/Rcc lethal/dangerous its the mind controling them that does.

"The quality of the crate matters little. Success depends upon who sits in it."
--Baron Manfred von Richtofen

now that is a quote that deserves to be sigged. too bad i didnt find it first

[Damian Magecraft]

I voted Other

The most lethal/dangerous Occ/Pcc/Rcc in rifts?

All of them.

Its not the stats that make a O/P/Rcc lethal/dangerous its the mind controling them that does.

"The quality of the crate matters little. Success depends upon who sits in it."
--Baron Manfred von Richtofen

now that is a quote that deserves to be sigged. too bad i didnt find it first

The quote means nothing to me because anyone who "sits in a crate" would not be a "poster child" of much. I mean really, think about it. If someone is going to quote about a person in a crate to point out the skill of a good mind, I don't think I would talk about someone who would want to be in a crate. Unless its in context with the bragging of a mob hitman who is talking about someone he assasinated and put in the crate and pointed it out as his trophy with that quote. Then that would be a good joke.

I honestly hope you are being sarcastic...
to belive otherwise would imply that the education system is failing even worse than I first thought...

[RainOfSteel]

I voted Other

The most lethal/dangerous Occ/Pcc/Rcc in rifts?

All of them.

Its not the stats that make a O/P/Rcc lethal/dangerous its the mind controling them that does.

"The quality of the crate matters little. Success depends upon who sits in it."
--Baron Manfred von Richtofen

now that is a quote that deserves to be sigged. too bad i didnt find it first

The quote means nothing to me because anyone who "sits in a crate" would not be a "poster child" of much. I mean really, think about it. If someone is going to quote about a person in a crate to point out the skill of a good mind, I don't think I would talk about someone who would want to be in a crate. Unless its in context with the bragging of a mob hitman who is talking about someone he assasinated and put in the crate and pointed it out as his trophy with that quote. Then that would be a good joke.

<sigh />

Manfred was one of the finest fighter pilots the world has ever seen. He invented most of what later became "modern dogfighting". He defied conventions, repeatedly, and succeeded when he did so.

His fighter squadron, the Flying Circus, tended to mow down just about everyone they came across.

Manfred called all fighter planes crates. The quote above is world famous.

"Crate" becomes a generic term referring to any vehicle, craft, or even general situation.

Manfred himself sat in many crates, and believe me, he was, and is, the poster child of all the great fighter pilots who have ever lived.

[RainOfSteel]

I'd have to say...

Game Master OCC.

That's Game Master RCC.

"Cow from Spaaaaaaace!"

[Damian Magecraft]

I voted Other

The most lethal/dangerous Occ/Pcc/Rcc in rifts?

All of them.

Its not the stats that make a O/P/Rcc lethal/dangerous its the mind controling them that does.

"The quality of the crate matters little. Success depends upon who sits in it."
--Baron Manfred von Richtofen

now that is a quote that deserves to be sigged. too bad i didnt find it first

The quote means nothing to me because anyone who "sits in a crate" would not be a "poster child" of much. I mean really, think about it. If someone is going to quote about a person in a crate to point out the skill of a good mind, I don't think I would talk about someone who would want to be in a crate. Unless its in context with the bragging of a mob hitman who is talking about someone he assasinated and put in the crate and pointed it out as his trophy with that quote. Then that would be a good joke.

<sigh />

Manfred was one of the finest fighter pilots the world has ever seen. He invented most of what later became "modern dogfighting". He defied conventions, repeatedly, and succeeded when he did so.

His fighter squadron, the Flying Circus, tended to mow down just about everyone they came across.

Manfred called all fighter planes crates. The quote above is world famous.

"Crate" becomes a generic term referring to any vehicle, craft, or even general situation.

Manfred himself sat in many crates, and believe me, he was, and is, the poster child of all the great fighter pilots who have ever lived.

RoS if you have to explain it then he is already lost to us...
pity he seemed to have potential too...

[RainOfSteel]

RoS if you have to explain it then he is already lost to us...
pity he seemed to have potential too...

Now now, none of that!






Post #1000

[Damian Magecraft]

RoS if you have to explain it then he is already lost to us...
pity he seemed to have potential too...

Now now, none of that!

Solothurn is posting some pretty cool artwork, so I forgive him.

Ok if only for the Artwork he is forgiven...

[Thinyser]

Props for him posting the art work for us to see, thats more balls than I have.....It could use some work though....kinda like his thought process....so far I am yet to be impressed by either....

That Quote was very apt if somewhat obscure. I had no idea that the dude was a famous fighter pilot but I assumed the "crate" was a vehicle of some sort and I think it was a good analogy to the player "piloting" the character.

To me the Mind Melter is the most deadly on that list as they can do MDC damage with a thought and they are versitile too.

[Thinyser]

see what i mean

[Kalinda]

RoS if you have to explain it then he is already lost to us...
pity he seemed to have potential too...

Now now, none of that!

Solothurn is posting some pretty cool artwork, so I forgive him.

Ok if only for the Artwork he is forgiven...

Your foregivness is irrelavant for I did not ask for it. As for the reference, comparing with such an indirect analogy as has been done, one would need to at least consider the possibility that not everyone is going to know every enduendo a total stanger knows or for that matter, thinks. Only someone like you, and anyone else for that matter, who has no perpensity to even realize the obvious over thier own self dillusional arragonce would not only not realize this, but would actually mistaken me as someone who actually give a **** what they thought.
"Oh thank you for your mercy, gosh I was too primitive to understand your superior intellect master, oh by the way, would you like to have me rent a backhoe to cleap up all the bull **** that just came out of your mouth."

If you don't recognize a quote or reference all you have to do is ask for clarification, no one will think any less of you for it. Or if you don't want to ask, ten minutes of research via google or another search engine would have turned up enough info on Richtofen to put the quote in context. I don't think anyone expects everyone to know everything. However, making assumptions and blathering about how stupid the quote was when you don't have any idea what you're talking about is only going to make you look like a fool.

[Mech-Viper Prime]

any occ/rcc/pcc can be lethal and dangerous

[RainOfSteel]

Your foregivness is irrelavant for I did not ask for it.

Then it is withdrawn.

[RainOfSteel]

see what i mean

Why yes, I do, quite.

[RainOfSteel]

If you don't recognize a quote or reference all you have to do is ask for clarification, no one will think any less of you for it. Or if you don't want to ask, ten minutes of research via google or another search engine would have turned up enough info on Richtofen to put the quote in context. I don't think anyone expects everyone to know everything. However, making assumptions and blathering about how stupid the quote was when you don't have any idea what you're talking about is only going to make you look like a fool.

You wasting electrons.

Just preserving the original text of that last part (before an edit occurs).

[TechnoGothic]

Anyways...

I voted OTHER...

BORGS ( Thunderstorm model ) or ( Custom Build using WoR, Bionics sourcebook )
Glitterboy ( in armor of course )
Transferred Intelligence Robots ( SB1 ) ( custom build of course )

Whoever is commanding the SDF-1 at the moment...its in Atlantis afterall, if you want it to be

I cannot place any Magic User OCC in the most lethal class...
I cannot place Psychics in most lethal either...since most are SDC, and need to be mostly unarmored to use their psychic powers well...


SPLICERS : Dreadguard Host Armor would be very Lethal in RIFTS depending on the build. Max out MDC/Force Field *1500+ MDC* with Two Omega Blasters with the Mega-upgrades...Wow, Force of nature in Rifts...