How does Free Quebec detect supernatual beings?

[Jazin18]

They are anti-magic, human supremacists who don't' use psychics, psi-stalkers, or Dog Boys. I would think it would be very easy for supernatural beings, especially those who can turn invisible, to infiltrate the country and wreak Havoc. At least the CS uses the above. Any ideas?

[Jefffar]

Yup, sounds about right.

Kicking out the Dog Boys was their dumbest move ever.

[Astral_Explorer]

Yes indeed, not just supernatural creatures, but CS Psychic Spies, or anyone else who looks human and get past the border guard.

I agree Quebec should have far more problems & infiltration then
Chi-Town.

When I found out that they kicked out the dog boys etc I laughed and laughed. They must be riddled with subversives.

[Jefffar]

Well, I won't say they are riddled with subversives. They just have to use the old fashoined methods for finding them rather than just looking at someone or giving their crotch a sniff.

[Qev]

Maybe they use non-mutant dogs who're trained to sniff out the supernatural. After all, that's why the CS used dogs in the genetic engineering of their non-human troops in the first place, isn't it?

[grandmaster z0b]

There are still FQ citizens who are psychic, and whilst their sensing skills aren't as good as a dogboy or psi-stalker, there are still lots of psychic sensitive powers that can pinpoint monsters and sorcerers.

[Shades of Eternity]

I like the dog handler idea

Simple, cheap and very effective.

[Jazin18]

I like the ideas presented (dogs, civilians). However, it just seems very inefficient to rely on civvies to detect mages, demons, or psychics. One of the things that make the CS so effective is the fact they have entire departments set up to detect and stop supernatural and magical threats. FQ is so well organized with their military I find it hard to believe they would leave themselves so vulnerable. The issue of the supernatural was never addressed in the World Book for FQ. I just finished it and the first thing that came mind was "WOW, they'd get their butts kicked against the FOM or Tolkien if it was still around." Glitterboys and SAMAS are great against tech, but against magical and supernatural threats, they would be vulnerable. I'd be interested in hearing scenarios in which FQ could repel a demon horde or the FOM.

[Gomen_Nagai]

Spirit West made it seem that Free Quebec relies upon Human Magic communites around it for protection against the supernatural.. they apparently Do know the spirit warrior legions and so on that exist near them.

I guess they sanction Witch Hunters and so on that Operate in their territory

[Braden Campbell]

Uh...tacheon detection grid?

Seriously, dogs, cats, and horses can all detect the supernatural... up to 600'... so army units (and police, and even homeowners) would make heavy use of K-9s.

Like in Termanator.

citizen ID chips would help isolate strangers, too.

[cornholioprime]

Remember, folks, that besides the apparently-incapable-of-subterfuge Demon Hordes of the "nearby" Calgary Rift, the occasional Sonoqua (Demon Bear), Wishpoosh the Demon Beaver ( ) and the "nearby" Xiticix, Free Quebec has almost NO substantial Threats to it. Strangely enough, this doesn't seem to be a "hand of God" thing for this region of North America.

Most of what remains seems to be held in check by the Tundra Rangers and, possibly, Lazlo.......

[TechnoGothic]

they use normal dogs, DNA scanners/tests, infared sensors, motion detection sensors, pressure sensitive floors, a few psychics here and there, Trained indivuals to spot strange behavior, ID Chips for secure areas...

Magic Invisiblity is still detectable by other means...its not hard for a advanced tech state like FQ to detect supernaturals and pyschics...

WHo knows what special tech they have come up with not written about yet either...

If they make heavy use of Finger print scanners and eye scanners that alone will cut down on most supernaturals getting around. That and the use of normal dogs...

[Astral_Explorer]

I am sure some BS Tech will be developed to handle our question here.

Seriouslly though Quebec pays their psychics a small amount of cash and kicks them out. They dont even like their citizens having psionics.
Dogs at check points is good, but the bad thing is unlike the Dog boys, Spot can't turn around and say "Hey I smell Vampires."

I am sure all the Coalition States and Quebec have to deal with occasional internal attacks, after all even with Dog Boys and Psi Stalkers there are still methods and means to get by. Likewise I see the CS and Quebec being smart enough to have infiltrated other enemy states.

Tolkeen should have had explosives going off within it during the whole war, from implanted spies, secret Psi Agents etc.

It go's either way, as far as can places be infiltrated, I see Quebec as being moe vulnerable then the CS, infact heck I could easily see Prosek having a few Mind Melters from Psi Battalion make Quebec see things his way, but that would be intelligent and striking at a vulnerability, so it will never happen.

[Zer0 Kay]

Yup, sounds about right.

Kicking out the Dog Boys was their dumbest move ever.

They probably detect it the same way that they detect it in BtS. With scientific Equipment.

[Qev]

Actually, FQ has specialist teams to root out the supernatural. They're equipped with PKE meters and proton energy packs for capture or disruption of unwanted supernatural influences.

[Zer0 Kay]

Remember, folks, that besides the apparently-incapable-of-subterfuge Demon Hordes of the "nearby" Calgary Rift, the occasional Sonoqua (Demon Bear), Wishpoosh the Demon Beaver ( ) and the "nearby" Xiticix, Free Quebec has almost NO substantial Threats to it. Strangely enough, this doesn't seem to be a "hand of God" thing for this region of North America.

Most of what remains seems to be held in check by the Tundra Rangers and, possibly, Lazlo.......

Demon Beaver... your kidding right?
D-bee: Wow that is a big deamon beaver!
Da'rota: Thanks I just had it stuffed this morning.

that should probably be reworded to Naked Guns lines and put in misquoted.

[Zer0 Kay]

they use normal dogs, DNA scanners/tests, infared sensors, motion detection sensors, pressure sensitive floors, a few psychics here and there, Trained indivuals to spot strange behavior, ID Chips for secure areas...

Magic Invisiblity is still detectable by other means...its not hard for a advanced tech state like FQ to detect supernaturals and pyschics...

WHo knows what special tech they have come up with not written about yet either...

If they make heavy use of Finger print scanners and eye scanners that alone will cut down on most supernaturals getting around. That and the use of normal dogs...

You act like a supernatural creature
a) can't walk through the doors anyway
b) isn't fast enough to get through the just unlocked door.

[Zer0 Kay]

Actually, FQ has specialist teams to root out the supernatural. They're equipped with PKE meters and proton energy packs for capture or disruption of unwanted supernatural influences.

Who you gonna call? Not YOU!!

[RockJock]

You have to know the secret handshake.

[Qev]

Horses... Hrm... Royal Canadian Mounted Police, anyone?

You mean the Tundra Rangers?

Nono, the Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen!

[Borast]

Horses... Hrm... Royal Canadian Mounted Police, anyone?

RCMP don't play in Quebec...well, not well. The same is true in Ontario. In the first place it is the QPP, and the OPP in the second. However, they do co-operate with other police agencies...as well as ony police agency co-operates with another...

Seriously though... The RCMP presence in Quebec is not as strong as some might think. However, if someone in La Belle Province wishes to correct me...

Incidentally, the Gendarmerie of the Sûreté du Québec likely uses dogs - German Shepards most likely. If you're not sure how effective they can be, do some research on police, customs, and military dogs. Hell, they have dogs trained to detect cancers and other diseases that are presenting no or atypical symptomologies!

[Jefffar]

Actually, FQ has specialist teams to root out the supernatural. They're equipped with PKE meters and proton energy packs for capture or disruption of unwanted supernatural influences.

I wonder how big a twinkie the apocolypse was?


At hand, the CS has no really special means to detect the supernatural beyond

1) A good knowledge of what they are dealing with
2) A paranoid and prepared internal security force
3) Adaptations of standard technologies

However, I think that point 1 and point 2 would make it pretty difficult on any inflitration, supernatural or not.

[Jefffar]

Agreed, while the OPP and SQ do take over a fair number of the RCMP's duties in their respective provincies, the RCMP are still there and they have a role to play.

Hell I got searched by a couple of RCMP plain clothes in Ontario.

[Jesterzzn]

Horses... Hrm... Royal Canadian Mounted Police, anyone?

You mean the Tundra Rangers?

Nono, the Royal Canadian Kilted Yaksmen!

(Stimpy)
Our country reeks of trees
Our yaks are really large
And they smell like rotting beef carcuses

And we have to clean up after them
And our sadle sores are the best
We proudly wear womens' clothing
And seering sandblows up our skirts!

(Ren joins with Stimpy)
And the buzzards, they soar overhead
And poisonous snakes will devour us whole
And our bones will bleach in the sun

(Stimpy)
That's it!

(Ren & Stimpy)
And we will probably go to (censored)
And that is our great reward
For being the
Ro-oy-oy-al
Canadian Kilted Yaksmen!

(Stimpy)
C'mon everybody!

(Everyone)
Our country reeks of trees
Our yaks are really large
And they smell like rotting beef carcuses

And we have to clean up after them
And our sadle sores are the best
We proudly wear womens' clothing
And seering sand blows up our skirts

And the buzzards, they soar overhead
And poisonous snakes will devour whole
Our bones will bleach in the sun

And we will probably go to (censored)
And that is our great reward
For being the
Ro-oy-oy-al
Canadian
Kilted
YAKSMEN!

[Jefffar]

Wait....Canada has Yaks? No

Wait... Canada has royalty???? We, and the rest of the commonwealth, are still technically ruled by the King and Queen of England

Wait...Theres more than 1 person in Canada??? You're only off by more than 30 million

And I thought it was all polar bears.... Nope, we have brown and black bears too, but no pandas.

Your friendly neighbourhood Jefffar spreading the truth about Canada whenever I can.

[Joey Jo Jo Jr]

Hell I got searched by a couple of RCMP plain clothes in Ontario.

Loitering huh? You wanna watch that kind of thing it's pretty risky

[cornholioprime]

Remember, folks, that besides the apparently-incapable-of-subterfuge Demon Hordes of the "nearby" Calgary Rift, the occasional Sonoqua (Demon Bear), Wishpoosh the Demon Beaver ( ) and the "nearby" Xiticix, Free Quebec has almost NO substantial Threats to it. Strangely enough, this doesn't seem to be a "hand of God" thing for this region of North America.

Most of what remains seems to be held in check by the Tundra Rangers and, possibly, Lazlo.......

Demon Beaver... your kidding right?
D-bee: Wow that is a big deamon beaver!
Da'rota: Thanks I just had it stuffed this morning.

that should probably be reworded to Naked Guns lines and put in misquoted.

Yes, Zer0, you SHOULD rework that Quote [/begin shameless self-promotion] and put it in my 'Rifts Mis-Quotes' Thread [/end shameless self-promotion].

50 Ha-Ha Points.

[Killer Cyborg]

They are anti-magic, human supremacists who don't' use psychics, psi-stalkers, or Dog Boys. I would think it would be very easy for supernatural beings, especially those who can turn invisible, to infiltrate the country and wreak Havoc. At least the CS uses the above. Any ideas?

P.M.D.s

[TechnoGothic]

Didn't Atlantis make a "Little Atlantis" off the coast of the FQ? That will be a big problem for them. However, they do have a much better police force then the CS, and they have more troops per square mile. AND, NO STRATIGIC VALUE!!! who wants to risk spying on a isolationist state?

It is off the coast of maryland, near Archie3...

[vitae_drinker]

Didn't Atlantis make a "Little Atlantis" off the coast of the FQ? That will be a big problem for them. However, they do have a much better police force then the CS, and they have more troops per square mile. AND, NO STRATIGIC VALUE!!! who wants to risk spying on a isolationist state?

People who are afraid they may not remain an isolationist state.

[Jefffar]

Hell I got searched by a couple of RCMP plain clothes in Ontario.

Loitering huh? You wanna watch that kind of thing it's pretty risky

Actually, they were the security detail of a VIP and I fit some kind of profile.

[Vrykolas2k]

I like the dog handler idea

Simple, cheap and very effective.

Yep.

[Zer0 Kay]

Remember, folks, that besides the apparently-incapable-of-subterfuge Demon Hordes of the "nearby" Calgary Rift, the occasional Sonoqua (Demon Bear), Wishpoosh the Demon Beaver ( ) and the "nearby" Xiticix, Free Quebec has almost NO substantial Threats to it. Strangely enough, this doesn't seem to be a "hand of God" thing for this region of North America.

Most of what remains seems to be held in check by the Tundra Rangers and, possibly, Lazlo.......

Demon Beaver... your kidding right?
D-bee: Wow that is a big deamon beaver!
Da'rota: Thanks I just had it stuffed this morning.

that should probably be reworded to Naked Guns lines and put in misquoted.

Yes, Zer0, you SHOULD rework that Quote [/begin shameless self-promotion] and put it in my 'Rifts Mis-Quotes' Thread [/end shameless self-promotion].

50 Ha-Ha Points.

Done

[Zer0 Kay]

Didn't Atlantis make a "Little Atlantis" off the coast of the FQ? That will be a big problem for them. However, they do have a much better police force then the CS, and they have more troops per square mile. AND, NO STRATIGIC VALUE!!! who wants to risk spying on a isolationist state?

People who are afraid they may not remain an isolationist state.

Ah but that is why an isolationist state is never truely an isolationist state... because they fear that other people fear that they will not remain an isolationist state. See so it's all about they know that other people know that they don't know that other people know that they don't know wether or not they know if wh... where was I going with that? Oh yeah we don't know.

[Borast]

Wait....Canada has Yaks? No

Wait... Canada has royalty???? We, and the rest of the commonwealth, are still technically ruled by the King and Queen of England

Wait...Theres more than 1 person in Canada??? You're only off by more than 30 million

And I thought it was all polar bears.... Nope, we have brown and black bears too, but no pandas.

Your friendly neighbourhood Jefffar spreading the truth about Canada whenever I can.

Yaks...natively...no. But we do have some in Zoos and the odd ranch!

We won't have a king until Queen Elizabeth surrenders the throne, which she doesn't seem likely to do anytime soon! (Even then, she's a figurehead...)

30 Mil...as of '98 I believe! You can likely add about another 5 mil by now.

Don't forget the grizzlies and ghost bears!