Help a Busy Josh Out!

Josh Sinsapaugh · Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:52 pm

Okay, I've been really busy recently.

Now, although I am really busy, I plan to GM again soon.

Could somebody help me out with the following:

I want to make a TW device that uses a spray bottle (you know, the kind you use to clean windows, etc.). The desired effect will be to spray a corpse (or corpses) and have the corpse be animated via "Greater Animate Dead" (Necro-Magic).

Now, I don't have enough time to wrap my head around the TW creation rules in R:UE yet, so, anyone that is good with the TW Creation rules could you please:

1. Tell me if this is possible?

2. Figure it out for me and post the creation stats (as if made by a 5th level TW)?

If someone can do this, I'll be most appreciative,

Thanks.

~ Josh

Nekira Sudacne · Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:09 pm

Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:Okay, I've been really busy recently.

Now, although I am really busy, I plan to GM again soon.

Could somebody help me out with the following:

I want to make a TW device that uses a spray bottle (you know, the kind you use to clean windows, etc.). The desired effect will be to spray a corpse (or corpses) and have the corpse be animated via "Greater Animate Dead" (Necro-Magic).

Now, I don't have enough time to wrap my head around the TW creation rules in R:UE yet, so, anyone that is good with the TW Creation rules could you please:

1. Tell me if this is possible?

2. Figure it out for me and post the creation stats (as if made by a 5th level TW)?

If someone can do this, I'll be most appreciative,

Thanks.

~ Josh

It's possible by Ultimate Rifts. I'll see if I can't whip up the stats using the offical rules...

Jason Richards · Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:28 am

My internal make-sense-o-meter is going off. I'm thinking that a spray bottle isn't "techno" enough to easily translate to TW, and that magical clouds of stuff sounds a bit more like alchemy to me than TW.

Just a thought.

Killer Cyborg · Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:31 am

Jason Richards wrote:My internal make-sense-o-meter is going off. I'm thinking that a spray bottle isn't "techno" enough to easily translate to TW, and that magical clouds of stuff sounds a bit more like alchemy to me than TW.

Just a thought.

A thought I agree with.

Furthermore, although I don't believe the rules get into this, I generally rule that the more powerful the spell, the bigger the TW device has to be.
TW Spray bottle, no.
TW Embalming Table, yes.

dark brandon · Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:57 am

Jason Richards wrote:My internal make-sense-o-meter is going off. I'm thinking that a spray bottle isn't "techno" enough to easily translate to TW, and that magical clouds of stuff sounds a bit more like alchemy to me than TW.

Just a thought.

Agreed.

But, a remote control would work, with a TW implant type thing

KLM · Unread post by **KLM** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:19 am

TW nanotech injector.

Having a cemetary or battlefiled irrigated by the
original idea is scary.

Adios
KLM

Nxla666 · Unread post by **Nxla666** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:54 am

EWW, combine that idea with the TW rain flare. :-?

Add recent battlefeild or not to old graveyard. :shock:

I'm thinking scene from Return of the Living Dead.

Jason Richards · Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:32 am

Remote control with some sort of device on the corpse... that would work.

Power washers/sprayers would be better, but you still are making some sort of magical cloud of mist, which I don't know that TW is really designed to create.

TW nano-tech would not likely work. The amount of P.P.E. and the time that would be required to make a single nano-machine would be insane.

I can see a defibrilator bringing the corpse back to life, but I don't see how it would help you to control it.

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:13 am

1. It isn't possible. As per the books, Techno-Wizards & Mystics will never learn Necro magic.

2. That aside, the nano-injector one of the best suggestions I've seen. Remember, it doesn't have to actually inject nanites into the bodies, it just has to be a focus device for the spell.

Edit: I was going to suggest a defibrillator, but I see that Jason (Edit: Oops, Wolfe beat Jason to it) beat me to it.

That would be my suggestion for a TW item that raises the dead, if one were to exist.

Qev · Unread post by **Qev** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:53 am

Wait, wouldn't animate dead TW devices all require large knife switches, Jacob's ladders, thunderstorms, and maniacal laughter? :lol:

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:07 pm

Qev wrote:Wait, wouldn't animate dead TW devices all require large knife switches, Jacob's ladders, thunderstorms, and maniacal laughter?

Followed by cries of "It's alive, IT'S ALIVE!!!"

Spectre · Unread post by **Spectre** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:08 pm

You cant forget the decrepid lackey.

Nekira Sudacne · Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:58 pm

Danger wrote:1. It isn't possible. As per the books, Techno-Wizards & Mystics will never learn Necro magic.

They don't have to. Ultimate Rifts allows them to work with necromancers to enchant items, it just costs more PPE to make.

actually it even specified that Necromancy spells require Jade and Ivory gems.

Nekira Sudacne · Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:59 pm

Jason Richards wrote:My internal make-sense-o-meter is going off. I'm thinking that a spray bottle isn't "techno" enough to easily translate to TW, and that magical clouds of stuff sounds a bit more like alchemy to me than TW.

Just a thought.

it's more techno than a sword handle. don't worry about it 8-)

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 1:14 pm

Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Danger wrote:1. It isn't possible. As per the books, Techno-Wizards & Mystics will never learn Necro magic.

They don't have to. Ultimate Rifts allows them to work with necromancers to enchant items, it just costs more PPE to make.

actually it even specified that Necromancy spells require Jade and Ivory gems.

This is true, Josh's posting made it sound as if the Techno-Wizard were doing this all on a solo basis. Yes, he could have a Necro partner. Or a Necromancer could have hired a Techno-Wizard to make the item for him.

Thinyser · Unread post by **Thinyser** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:43 pm

Make it out of a super soaker for better range.

And call it the "Reanimation Rifle" :lol:

Josh Sinsapaugh · Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:33 pm

Jason Richards wrote:My internal make-sense-o-meter is going off. I'm thinking that a spray bottle isn't "techno" enough to easily translate to TW, and that magical clouds of stuff sounds a bit more like alchemy to me than TW.

Just a thought.

There's TW water pistols which operate on the same principal as....spray bottles.

Enough said.

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh · Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:36 pm

Danger wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Danger wrote:1. It isn't possible. As per the books, Techno-Wizards & Mystics will never learn Necro magic.

They don't have to. Ultimate Rifts allows them to work with necromancers to enchant items, it just costs more PPE to make.

actually it even specified that Necromancy spells require Jade and Ivory gems.

This is true, Josh's posting made it sound as if the Techno-Wizard were doing this all on a solo basis. Yes, he could have a Necro partner. Or a Necromancer could have hired a Techno-Wizard to make the item for him.

That's my idea. Should have elaborated on that in the original post.

~ Josh

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:45 pm

Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:
Danger wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:
Danger wrote:1. It isn't possible. As per the books, Techno-Wizards & Mystics will never learn Necro magic.

They don't have to. Ultimate Rifts allows them to work with necromancers to enchant items, it just costs more PPE to make.

actually it even specified that Necromancy spells require Jade and Ivory gems.

This is true, Josh's posting made it sound as if the Techno-Wizard were doing this all on a solo basis. Yes, he could have a Necro partner. Or a Necromancer could have hired a Techno-Wizard to make the item for him.

That's my idea. Should have elaborated on that in the original post.

~ Josh

Sorry, I was coming off of a weekend during which I had a multiple hour argument about whether or not Techno-Wizards could use Necromancy. :oops:

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:47 pm

How about a TW Coffin?

Place body inside, the mage casts the spell/spends the PPE, and...

"Rise..."

Jason Richards · Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:40 pm

Hey, TW water weapons aren't simple plastic squirt guns, and they don't enchant liquid. There is no indication that a TW water weapon is anything but a machine in the finest TW tradition. Don't get it confused with the little toy things also statted out in that section.

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:21 am

Jason Richards wrote:Hey, TW water weapons aren't simple plastic squirt guns, and they don't enchant liquid. There is no indication that a TW water weapon is anything but a machine in the finest TW tradition. Don't get it confused with the little toy things also statted out in that section.

I was always under the impression that the TW squirtguns were the 'mechanized' squirtguns such as we have today, just converted.

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:20 pm

Danger wrote:How about a TW Coffin?

Place body inside, the mage casts the spell/spends the PPE, and...

"Rise..."

My Apprentice. OK Palpy.

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:24 pm

Zer0 Kay wrote:
Danger wrote:How about a TW Coffin?

Place body inside, the mage casts the spell/spends the PPE, and...

"Rise..."
My Apprentice. OK Palpy.

I was waiting for someone to catch that.

Josh Sinsapaugh · Tue Nov 15, 2005 2:54 pm

Jason Richards wrote:Hey, TW water weapons aren't simple plastic squirt guns, and they don't enchant liquid. There is no indication that a TW water weapon is anything but a machine in the finest TW tradition. Don't get it confused with the little toy things also statted out in that section.

Even then, as Nekira pointed out, a squirt gun is alot more technologically advanced than a sword hilt.

And I'll also add a strip of metal (Wing Board) to that, also.

~ Josh

Josh Sinsapaugh · Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:06 pm

wolfe wrote:yeah, I was wondering what the whole 'wasn't techno enough' for it was about..

Just not quite picturing the squirt gun raising the dead part though.
doesn't quite fit the part to me, but ah well that's techno wizardry for ya.

Squirt gun?

I'm talking about using a spray bottle.

And for the people that are (falsely) lamenting "it is not techno enough" (despite sword hilt and strips of metal, not to forget frying pans, duct tape, etc.), make it a power washer.

~ Josh

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