JA-12 laser rifle

Ley Line walkers, Juicers, Coalition Troops, Samas, Tolkeen, & The Federation Of Magic. Come together here to discuss all things Rifts®.

Moderators: Immortals, Supreme Beings, Old Ones

User avatar
Killer Cyborg
Priest
Posts: 28131
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2001 2:01 am
Comment: "Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay
Location: In the ocean, punching oncoming waves
Contact:

Unread post by Killer Cyborg »

Qev wrote:
Kalinda wrote:The vagabond in RUE is totaly munchkin, they get armor for cripes sakes! In my day we played unarmored vagabonds with sharp sticks and we liked it! :badbad:

My GM was generous and let me trade my pointed stick for a rock and a wet-paper-towel armor breastplate.


I've mixed the soap with some gasoline from my rusty car/truck and make a molotov.
And the candy is great for bribes.
Annual Best Poster of the Year Awards (2012)

"Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay

"That rifle on the wall of the laborer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell

Check out my Author Page on Amazon!
Noon
Champion
Posts: 1616
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Australia
Contact:

Unread post by Noon »

Killer Cyborg wrote:KS thinks that a pulse is a burst of "instantaneous energy pulses" that happen "so fast it is not even considered to be a burst, but a single, heavy blast" (RUE, p. 361), and as "simultaneous shots."
But I can't find the passage that I remember stating that the pulses were a microsecond apart... so I guess they are actually simultaneous.

Umm, were trying to give some explanation to the original poster, not explain away any explanations given. If the original poster thinks there's a prob with an explanation, he can tell us.
User avatar
Killer Cyborg
Priest
Posts: 28131
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2001 2:01 am
Comment: "Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay
Location: In the ocean, punching oncoming waves
Contact:

Unread post by Killer Cyborg »

Noon wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:KS thinks that a pulse is a burst of "instantaneous energy pulses" that happen "so fast it is not even considered to be a burst, but a single, heavy blast" (RUE, p. 361), and as "simultaneous shots."
But I can't find the passage that I remember stating that the pulses were a microsecond apart... so I guess they are actually simultaneous.

Umm, were trying to give some explanation to the original poster, not explain away any explanations given. If the original poster thinks there's a prob with an explanation, he can tell us.


Or I can point it out myself.
Annual Best Poster of the Year Awards (2012)

"Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay

"That rifle on the wall of the laborer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell

Check out my Author Page on Amazon!
Noon
Champion
Posts: 1616
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Australia
Contact:

Unread post by Noon »

In your own thread, sure.
User avatar
Killer Cyborg
Priest
Posts: 28131
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2001 2:01 am
Comment: "Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay
Location: In the ocean, punching oncoming waves
Contact:

Unread post by Killer Cyborg »

Killer Cyborg wrote:
Noon wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:KS thinks that a pulse is a burst of "instantaneous energy pulses" that happen "so fast it is not even considered to be a burst, but a single, heavy blast" (RUE, p. 361), and as "simultaneous shots."
But I can't find the passage that I remember stating that the pulses were a microsecond apart... so I guess they are actually simultaneous.

Umm, were trying to give some explanation to the original poster, not explain away any explanations given. If the original poster thinks there's a prob with an explanation, he can tell us.


Or I can point it out myself.

Noon wrote:In your own thread, sure.


IF FefnaGale for some reason wishes me not to point out the obvious flaws in the concept that recoil is the explanation that he is looking for, I will refrain from doing so.

But until then, I see no reason not to point out why that explanation is not what was asked for.
Annual Best Poster of the Year Awards (2012)

"Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay

"That rifle on the wall of the laborer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell

Check out my Author Page on Amazon!
User avatar
Killer Cyborg
Priest
Posts: 28131
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2001 2:01 am
Comment: "Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay
Location: In the ocean, punching oncoming waves
Contact:

Unread post by Killer Cyborg »

Noon wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:KS thinks that a pulse is a burst of "instantaneous energy pulses" that happen "so fast it is not even considered to be a burst, but a single, heavy blast" (RUE, p. 361), and as "simultaneous shots."
But I can't find the passage that I remember stating that the pulses were a microsecond apart... so I guess they are actually simultaneous.

Umm, were trying to give some explanation to the original poster, not explain away any explanations given. If the original poster thinks there's a prob with an explanation, he can tell us.


He already did.
Read the thread... :roll:

FefnaGale wrote:
Danger wrote:It has nothing to do with recoil. It's targeting. You're still trying to hit a single target with more than one shot. Thus, you lose some accuracy.
how? with one trigger squeeze you put out 3 shots and once again. LASERS HAVE NO RECOIL!!! even if you had to feather the trigger, there would be no loss in accuracy for an experienced sniper.

FefnaGale wrote:a laser rifle that has recoil related penalties is dumb.
Annual Best Poster of the Year Awards (2012)

"Your Eloquence with a sledge hammer is a beautiful thing..." -Zer0 Kay

"That rifle on the wall of the laborer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there." -George Orwell

Check out my Author Page on Amazon!
Noon
Champion
Posts: 1616
Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:01 am
Location: Australia
Contact:

Unread post by Noon »

Interesting catch 22; if I justify myself by saying I've made no mention of recoil, it's like treating your expectations as the ones I'm supposed to live up to in this thread.

If I don't mention it and merely 8-) , the behaviour goes unchallenged because of that, probably gains a certain amount of legitimacy in the eyes of careless readers.

:lol:
User avatar
SoulofThunder
Dungeon Crawler
Posts: 288
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2005 4:32 pm
Location: Detroit,MI
Contact:

Unread post by SoulofThunder »

im personally done with this thread. continue with any angle you please.
User avatar
Borast
Champion
Posts: 2273
Joined: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:59 pm
Location: Canada

Unread post by Borast »

Danger wrote:
Kagashi wrote:Did you guys know that magic is not real? Yet we pretend it is real when we play this game....

How is that different to just accepting that the darn weapon breaks the laws of physics in our real world, but it makes perfect sense in Palladium?


This weapon sucks anyway. Its just a laser that does a lot of damage. Its a ROLL playing weapon. Not a ROLE playing weapon. Challange yourself and make a vagabond with the cooking skill (as presented in the latest Rifter...cool skill by the way) armed with nothing but a Wilks laser pistol, an SDC knife in your boot, a .22 derringer, and a partial suit of Plastic man armor (just the chest plate). Oh yea, and a spatula. Now thats role playing!


:ok:


I did that to my players in a game once. One of them had to run down a "fire lane" against a .50 cal machine gun with no armour...just street SDC clothes! He took some NASTY wounds, but managed to make it into the warehouse where all the body armours and MD weapons were stored. :D (He was running AWAY from the gun at the time, since it was up the street from the warehouse he was trying to get to...)
Fnord

Cool...I've been FAQed... atleast twice!

.sig count to date: 2

"May your day be as eventful as you wish, and may your life only hurt as much as it has to." - Me...

Normality is Relative, Sanity is Conceptual, and I am neither.
Post Reply

Return to “Rifts®”