I love being a Saint

Prince Cherico · Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:18 pm

Im playing a saint in a HU game and it rocks the house
I can cure any disease!
I can cure any poisin.
I can bring even the most wounded players back to full health.
I am support charater defined. Ive loaded up on medical skills
so im now useless in combat but I love being able to do dental
work one day and plastic surgery the next. Any body else like
playing as a Saint besides me?

Unread post by **NMI** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:25 pm

For a Saint with a twist, you should consider this...

Harvester O.C.C.

demos606 · Unread post by **demos606** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 11:15 pm

and we wonder why Palladium products are so widely viewed as munchkin bait...

Prince Cherico · Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:43 am

demos606 wrote::frust: and we wonder why Palladium products are so widely viewed as munchkin bait...

Im actually not the most powerfull charater in my campain
Im really good in my defined relem and I suck outside of it.

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:30 am

demos606 wrote::frust: and we wonder why Palladium products are so widely viewed as munchkin bait...

Are you familiar with the Saint OCC?

Danger · Unread post by **Danger** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:33 am

Misfit KotLD wrote:I thought this was about being a New orleans fan...What happened to honesty in advertising?

demos606 · Unread post by **demos606** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 12:36 pm

The Deific NMI wrote:
demos606 wrote::frust: and we wonder why Palladium products are so widely viewed as munchkin bait...
Are you familiar with the Saint OCC?

Splicers is my prefered PB setting, so yeah you could say I'm familiar with Saints.

Unread post by **NMI** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:20 pm

demos606 wrote:
The Deific NMI wrote:
demos606 wrote::frust: and we wonder why Palladium products are so widely viewed as munchkin bait...
Are you familiar with the Saint OCC?

Splicers is my prefered PB setting, so yeah you could say I'm familiar with Saints.

so what are you referring to as munchkin bait?

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:58 pm

The Deific NMI wrote:
demos606 wrote:
The Deific NMI wrote:
demos606 wrote::frust: and we wonder why Palladium products are so widely viewed as munchkin bait...
Are you familiar with the Saint OCC?

Splicers is my prefered PB setting, so yeah you could say I'm familiar with Saints.
so what are you referring to as munchkin bait?

Yea I really don't see it either. If's hes playing by the rules he cannot touch metal, so that would more than balance out his powers. Where is the munchkin in playing a Saint?

Nekira Sudacne · Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:05 pm

Muchkin dosn't mean most physically powerful.

Muchkin means being able to do whatever you want to do perfectly.

Prince Cherico · Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:49 am

Well things have taken a turn for the worse for my saint.
A villan has captured a virus that will kill most life on earth.
The future verson of the villan has come back through time
to give us information so that we can stop him. our team is the
official team of the city we are basically super cops the regular
police are now trying to arrest us and are blaming us for the
murders said super villain has commited the other members of the
team are leaving to fight him by himself. My saint isnt going with them
why? The saint has the ability to cure any disease this added to the fact
that the super villan successfully killed the former team single handly has
led me to the conclusion that my charater would give himself over to the police. My charater is going to attempt to convince the police that hes
telling the truth if hes successfull then he will hopefully be able to get
back up for his teammates, and be given the oportunity to create a cure
for the virus. If he fails then were going to roleplay his adventures in prison. Wish me luck

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:37 pm

Lord Cherico wrote:Well things have taken a turn for the worse for my saint.
A villan has captured a virus that will kill most life on earth.
The future verson of the villan has come back through time
to give us information so that we can stop him. our team is the
official team of the city we are basically super cops the regular
police are now trying to arrest us and are blaming us for the
murders said super villain has commited the other members of the
team are leaving to fight him by himself. My saint isnt going with them
why? The saint has the ability to cure any disease this added to the fact
that the super villan successfully killed the former team single handly has
led me to the conclusion that my charater would give himself over to the police. My charater is going to attempt to convince the police that hes
telling the truth if hes successfull then he will hopefully be able to get
back up for his teammates, and be given the oportunity to create a cure
for the virus. If he fails then were going to roleplay his adventures in prison. Wish me luck

Just be sure not to touch the bars.

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:25 am

Jesterzzn wrote: Just be sure not to touch the bars.

I know you are joking.
But just to be clear, HE's playing a Saint( a splicers Charcter class) in an HU game NOT the Splicers world.

HE CAN touch metal.
But he sucks at anything beside's healing(so he can't fight!)....

demos606 · Unread post by **demos606** » Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:05 am

Actually, even outside the Splicers setting, a Splicers character still cant touch metal without getting a reaction triggered by the nanites in their body. I don't have the book in front of me for a page ref but it's covered quite nicely in the section about taking charecters to/from the Splicers world.

Also just for the record, there's not a damned thing keeping a Saint from fighting in self defense, or even just for the sheer hell of it - they simply do so without benefit of training. Their "non-combatant" status in Splicers only applies to most Houses as long as the Saint doesn't enter combat; NEXUS has no problem at all with deliberately killing Saints, especially when given the chance to deprive humans of another Librarian or Technician.

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:40 am

demos606 wrote:Actually, even outside the Splicers setting, a Splicers character still cant touch metal without getting a reaction triggered by the nanites in their body. I don't have the book in front of me for a page ref but it's covered quite nicely in the section about taking charecters to/from the Splicers world.

NO it's not. IT's barely touched upon, not to mention that fact that their's no reason to assume he's from the Splicers world in the first place.

He's more likely to be playing it as a variation of the symbiote power class that the GM allowed/OK'd.

Also just for the record, there's not a damned thing keeping a Saint from fighting in self defense, or even just for the sheer hell of it - they simply do so without benefit of training.

No one said LC's character couldn't enter a fight, just that he'd suck at it.
Including LC himself, and since this is HIS character, and that's the way he's choosing to play it, there's noting wrong with that.

sHaka · Unread post by **sHaka** » Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:58 pm

Shadow_otm wrote:Remember, the nanites need 3 things:
1) metal
2) humans
3) NEXUS

Replace "Humans" with "Mammals".

see the thread on Healing factor and the Plague.

Sir_Spirit · Unread post by **Sir_Spirit** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:05 am

Shadow_otm wrote:Remember, the nanites need 3 things:

3) NEXUS

We know this to be true due to the lack of nanites in the Deep Sea.

demos606 · Unread post by **demos606** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:59 pm

Look again. There is a (comparative) lack of robotic presence in the oceans because there just aren't any designed for water operations. Breached hulls tend to do nasty things when they allow water to reach electrical systems. You can also look at how underground robot patrols function to see just how vital NEXUS contact is to robotic function.

Specificly, check page 13 for characters rifted offworld after nanite exposure.

sHaka · Unread post by **sHaka** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:07 pm

Shadow_otm wrote:And if you're rifted onto Splicers in an enviromentaly sealed armor you're safe... until you open it up and step out....

...and you're still safe if you're a non-mammal. If not, don't touch non-precious metal otherwise your touch will cause the infected metal to trigger a plague response.

demos606 · Unread post by **demos606** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:43 pm

Shadow_otm wrote:And if you're rifted onto Splicers in an enviromentaly sealed armor you're safe... until you open it up and step out....

For a Saint to do its job, environmental armor is completely out of the question. For anyone native to the Splicers world escaping the nanoplague is impossible by any means short of dying.

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:11 pm

Sir_Spirit wrote:
demos606 wrote:Actually, even outside the Splicers setting, a Splicers character still cant touch metal without getting a reaction triggered by the nanites in their body. I don't have the book in front of me for a page ref but it's covered quite nicely in the section about taking charecters to/from the Splicers world.

NO it's not. IT's barely touched upon, not to mention that fact that their's no reason to assume he's from the Splicers world in the first place.

He's more likely to be playing it as a variation of the symbiote power class that the GM allowed/OK'd.

Well it may be barely touched apon, but it is also quite clear. Splicer's character's that are off world are still subject to the nanites.

It is possible that he is playing a Heroes Unlimited Character designed to resemble, and have the same powers as a saint. But he didn't say that. He said he is playing a Saint. So all we can comment on is how a Saint would be played. That he posted this in the Splicers forum and said point blank that he is playing a Saint, are two very good reasons to assume that he is from the Splicers world. Perhaps he will clarify.

Prince Cherico · Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:21 pm

Sir_Spirit wrote:
demos606 wrote:Actually, even outside the Splicers setting, a Splicers character still cant touch metal without getting a reaction triggered by the nanites in their body. I don't have the book in front of me for a page ref but it's covered quite nicely in the section about taking charecters to/from the Splicers world.

NO it's not. IT's barely touched upon, not to mention that fact that their's no reason to assume he's from the Splicers world in the first place.

He's more likely to be playing it as a variation of the symbiote power class that the GM allowed/OK'd.

Also just for the record, there's not a damned thing keeping a Saint from fighting in self defense, or even just for the sheer hell of it - they simply do so without benefit of training.

No one said LC's character couldn't enter a fight, just that he'd suck at it.
Including LC himself, and since this is HIS character, and that's the way he's choosing to play it, there's noting wrong with that.

your correct with the symbiote thing in the game Im one of the weaker
charaters the guy with streatching aps metal healing factor and body weapons would make mince meat out of me

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:49 pm

Shadow_otm wrote:*sighs* When I'm back home this weekend I'll find the page on the book and might quote a line for the sake of ending the argument. Splicer's world is the only world the nanites turn things nasty on. Because of the lack of the NEXUS computer and it's nastyness and split personalities on other worlds, the nanites quit making nasty things in the prescence of mammals.

I'll not hold my breath. :wink:

VooDu · Unread post by **VooDu** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:08 pm

I hope this helps some on pg. 13 it says:

"Vice versa, Splicers characters brought to Rifts Earth (why no other Earths mentioned but I assume all others also) carry the plague inside of them, so any metal they handle or carry for more than a minute will see the nanobot plague invade it and elicit the same Hostile Response."

The only thing he can not do is spread the plague to other things since they can not self-replicate. It says how only things carried or worn that are metal makes the response occur. It says it will not be passed on to vehicles, power armor, etc.

That's what makes the character even more exotic since he has many limitations, anywhere metal is used like here and probably every place else, he has to be very careful.

Jesterzzn · Unread post by **Jesterzzn** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:16 pm

VooDu wrote:I hope this helps some on pg. 13 it says:

"Vice versa, Splicers characters brought to Rifts Earth (why no other Earths mentioned but I assume all others also) carry the plague inside of them, so any metal they handle or carry for more than a minute will see the nanobot plague invade it and elicit the same Hostile Response."

The only thing he can not do is spread the plague to other things since they can not self-replicate. It says how only things carried or worn that are metal makes the response occur. It says it will not be passed on to vehicles, power armor, etc.

That's what makes the character even more exotic since he has many limitations, anywhere metal is used like here and probably every place else, he has to be very careful.

Thanks for that, others have already said where to look, but maybe having it quoted as well will help end the debate. :ok: