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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:14 am
by Sir_Spirit
macksting wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:Well, not if you're a martial artist.
Good point. A modified fighting gi would make for a decent costume, too.
Personally, I find that a man wearing nothing but small "hero" shorts looks really, really exposed. Perhaps moreso than a similarly dressed female. However, I'll agree on the matter of body suits.
I don't know about "hero" shorts?
But the shorts boxers wear look good on them(though being oiled up helps...
)
thogh iwould want to be them on a cold day....
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:15 am
by Sir_Spirit
Stone Gargoyle wrote:They never seem to make a fuss about the men, though. A lot of women claimed to be offended by the scantily clad women, though. Probably because more males read comics than females and the whole debasement of women issue.
Men in comics tend to be covered up a lot more than the women, too.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:30 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
MASTERMIND wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:I used Paragon City as my setting (or I will be once I get to run the game). In PC there is an entire industry of tailors devoted to the hero community. So heroes can look however they want and if slinky fits the characters personality then slinky is what they get. From a RPG perspective this also provides easy access to costumes and costume repair.
I try not to directly rip anyone off, but will base some NPCs on existing characters. I usually rename the cities, though.
Wow, you make it sound like what I did was a crime.
I play in a lot of games and I don't always have the time to develop a complete setting. City of Heroes is a MMORPG, an online RPG game. We are playing a RPG game. I am just choosing to use that setting but with the mechanics of my choice. I don't see how that is a negative thing.
Next thing you will tell me I can't use the Rifts setting because I didn't come up with that. KS created it but I can't use his ideas.
I am sure the makers of that pertickler game might. They are funny like that. Rifts is different because it is ackshully a Palladium game.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:01 pm
by MASTERMIND
Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:I used Paragon City as my setting (or I will be once I get to run the game). In PC there is an entire industry of tailors devoted to the hero community. So heroes can look however they want and if slinky fits the characters personality then slinky is what they get. From a RPG perspective this also provides easy access to costumes and costume repair.
I try not to directly rip anyone off, but will base some NPCs on existing characters. I usually rename the cities, though.
Wow, you make it sound like what I did was a crime.
I play in a lot of games and I don't always have the time to develop a complete setting. City of Heroes is a MMORPG, an online RPG game. We are playing a RPG game. I am just choosing to use that setting but with the mechanics of my choice. I don't see how that is a negative thing.
Next thing you will tell me I can't use the Rifts setting because I didn't come up with that. KS created it but I can't use his ideas.
I am sure the makers of that pertickler game might. They are funny like that. Rifts is different because it is ackshully a Palladium game.
I pay my $15 a month to play the game so as long as I am not turning a profit or claiming I created the setting then I should be able to do with it what I want.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 6:46 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
MASTERMIND wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:I used Paragon City as my setting (or I will be once I get to run the game). In PC there is an entire industry of tailors devoted to the hero community. So heroes can look however they want and if slinky fits the characters personality then slinky is what they get. From a RPG perspective this also provides easy access to costumes and costume repair.
I try not to directly rip anyone off, but will base some NPCs on existing characters. I usually rename the cities, though.
Wow, you make it sound like what I did was a crime.
I play in a lot of games and I don't always have the time to develop a complete setting. City of Heroes is a MMORPG, an online RPG game. We are playing a RPG game. I am just choosing to use that setting but with the mechanics of my choice. I don't see how that is a negative thing.
Next thing you will tell me I can't use the Rifts setting because I didn't come up with that. KS created it but I can't use his ideas.
I am sure the makers of that pertickler game might. They are funny like that. Rifts is different because it is ackshully a Palladium game.
I pay my $15 a month to play the game so as long as I am not turning a profit or claiming I created the setting then I should be able to do with it what I want.
*Shrugs*I don't claim to be a lawyer, so your guess is a good as mine.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:32 am
by Sir_Spirit
Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:MASTERMIND wrote:I used Paragon City as my setting (or I will be once I get to run the game). In PC there is an entire industry of tailors devoted to the hero community. So heroes can look however they want and if slinky fits the characters personality then slinky is what they get. From a RPG perspective this also provides easy access to costumes and costume repair.
I try not to directly rip anyone off, but will base some NPCs on existing characters. I usually rename the cities, though.
Wow, you make it sound like what I did was a crime.
I play in a lot of games and I don't always have the time to develop a complete setting. City of Heroes is a MMORPG, an online RPG game. We are playing a RPG game. I am just choosing to use that setting but with the mechanics of my choice. I don't see how that is a negative thing.
Next thing you will tell me I can't use the Rifts setting because I didn't come up with that. KS created it but I can't use his ideas.
I am sure the makers of that pertickler game might. They are funny like that. Rifts is different because it is ackshully a Palladium game.
I pay my $15 a month to play the game so as long as I am not turning a profit or claiming I created the setting then I should be able to do with it what I want.
*Shrugs*I don't claim to be a lawyer, so your guess is a good as mine.
From what I understand he is correct.
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:08 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Well, I am just saying he could take the idea and city layout but change up the name so it is not so blaringly obvious.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:19 am
by Sir_Spirit
el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Sentinel wrote:Spider-Man never needed armour.
Like I said, depends on the powers and person.
What the heck would Sue Richards do with body armor?
Why should Rogue spend her hard-earned cash on body armor?
.
X-men uniforms have at times been said to be an advanced form of armor. Same for the FF.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:21 am
by Sir_Spirit
Lord Cherico wrote:Sir_Spirit wrote:Sentinel wrote:, and Mary Marvel., .
Mary Marvel's a flier, yet she wears a
miniskirt.Think about that.
You need to read the superbuddys comic
?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:22 am
by Sir_Spirit
sawg138 wrote:Sir_Spirit wrote:el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Sentinel wrote:Spider-Man never needed armour.
Like I said, depends on the powers and person.
What the heck would Sue Richards do with body armor?
What about shapeshifters?
Why should Rogue spend her hard-earned cash on body armor?
Or Photon?
It wouldn't do any of them a lick of good and more than likely would get in the way.
As far as guys, I know Reed Richards has the unstable molecule clothing and all that, but that's always been silly. He'd never be able to wear real armor and use his powers, same for any other female character who stretches.
Oh, and what about someone like she-hulk, or a female character with the power giant. Who makes armor for someone who'se 9 feet tall? Let alone someone who grows to 60 feet tall!
Or who has megawings?
The list goes on and on.....
By that arguement Superman should dress
like so:
Why? Nothing Superman wears is functional. It's all style for him. He could just as easily wear that, but he would be confused for an exotic dancer.
Then why NOT where something along the lines of WonderWomans?
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:33 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Sir_Spiri+ wrote:el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Sentinel wrote:Spider-Man never needed armour.
Like I said, depends on the powers and person.
What the heck would Sue Richards do with body armor?
Why should Rogue spend her hard-earned cash on body armor?
.
X-men uniforms have at times been said to be an advanced form of armor. Same for the FF.
That was back when Reed was making everyone outfits out of unstable molecules, their way of getting around the destruction of uniforms when powers kicked in. It has been less popular to give them such in recent years.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:35 pm
by Marrowlight
Stone Gargoyle wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Sentinel wrote:Spider-Man never needed armour.
Like I said, depends on the powers and person.
What the heck would Sue Richards do with body armor?
Why should Rogue spend her hard-earned cash on body armor?
.
X-men uniforms have at times been said to be an advanced form of armor. Same for the FF.
That was back when Reed was making everyone outfits out of unstable molecules, their way of getting around the destruction of uniforms when powers kicked in. It has been less popular to give them such in recent years.
hmm, iirc the bullet proof X-uniform was actually a Forge enhancement of the Reed design, circa uncanny 260's
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:39 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Marrowlight wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:el magico -- darklorddc wrote:Sentinel wrote:Spider-Man never needed armour.
Like I said, depends on the powers and person.
What the heck would Sue Richards do with body armor?
Why should Rogue spend her hard-earned cash on body armor?
.
X-men uniforms have at times been said to be an advanced form of armor. Same for the FF.
That was back when Reed was making everyone outfits out of unstable molecules, their way of getting around the destruction of uniforms when powers kicked in. It has been less popular to give them such in recent years.
hmm, iirc the bullet proof X-uniform was actually a Forge enhancement of the Reed design, circa uncanny 260's
well, I have not followed the comics in recent years, so that very well may be the case.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:42 pm
by Daniel Stoker
Stone Gargoyle wrote:well, I have not followed the comics in recent years, so that very well may be the case.
That wasn't that recent though. I remember this back when X-Factor still had Apocalypses ship and the Press Gang attacked it/them.
Daniel Stoker
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:48 pm
by Marrowlight
Daniel Stoker wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:well, I have not followed the comics in recent years, so that very well may be the case.
That wasn't that recent though. I remember this back when X-Factor still had Apocalypses ship and the Press Gang attacked it/them.
Daniel Stoker
Given SG's personal situation I'm gonna let it slide, m'self.
but yes, given as how uncanny is racing towards issue 500 right now, 260's certainly isn't recent any longer.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:56 pm
by Daniel Stoker
It was just something I remembered from 'a while back' in my head so I was tossing that out there.
Daniel Stoker
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:58 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Marrowlight wrote:Daniel Stoker wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:well, I have not followed the comics in recent years, so that very well may be the case.
That wasn't that recent though. I remember this back when X-Factor still had Apocalypses ship and the Press Gang attacked it/them.
Daniel Stoker
Given SG's personal situation I'm gonna let it slide, m'self.
but yes, given as how uncanny is racing towards issue 500 right now, 260's certainly isn't recent any longer.
Okay, so I'm severely out of date on the X-Men costume situation.
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 4:59 pm
by Marrowlight
Stone Gargoyle wrote:Marrowlight wrote:Daniel Stoker wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:well, I have not followed the comics in recent years, so that very well may be the case.
That wasn't that recent though. I remember this back when X-Factor still had Apocalypses ship and the Press Gang attacked it/them.
Daniel Stoker
Given SG's personal situation I'm gonna let it slide, m'self.
but yes, given as how uncanny is racing towards issue 500 right now, 260's certainly isn't recent any longer.
Okay, so I'm severely out of date on the X-Men costume situation.
risks n rewards of posting on a public forum
Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:01 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Marrowlight wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:Marrowlight wrote:Daniel Stoker wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:well, I have not followed the comics in recent years, so that very well may be the case.
That wasn't that recent though. I remember this back when X-Factor still had Apocalypses ship and the Press Gang attacked it/them.
Daniel Stoker
Given SG's personal situation I'm gonna let it slide, m'self.
but yes, given as how uncanny is racing towards issue 500 right now, 260's certainly isn't recent any longer.
Okay, so I'm severely out of date on the X-Men costume situation.
risks n rewards of posting on a public forum
I never claimed to be an expert.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:43 am
by Sir_Spirit
sawg138 wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:
Then why NOT wear something along the lines of Wonder Womans?
Because he would then be a drag queen?
No, he'd be wearing a star spangled speedo, and a shirt. Thats not cross dressing by a long shot.
As a real drag queen if you don't believe me.
Also, why the puking?
Superman has the bod to pull it off.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 6:33 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
sawg138 wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:I never claimed to be an expert.
That certainly puts you in the minority.
Well, considering this is amongst the most geeky areas of study, I am actually glad of that fact. If I knew things like that at the drop of a hat for no reason, I might have to shoot myself.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:06 pm
by Marrowlight
Stone Gargoyle wrote:sawg138 wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:I never claimed to be an expert.
That certainly puts you in the minority.
Well, considering this is amongst the most geeky areas of study, I am actually glad of that fact. If I knew things like that at the drop of a hat for no reason, I might have to shoot myself.
That's it, be insulting -- worked so well for yah last time.
Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:24 pm
by Sir_Spirit
sawg138 wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:sawg138 wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:
Then why NOT wear something along the lines of Wonder Womans?
Because he would then be a drag queen?
No, he'd be wearing a star spangled speedo, and a shirt. Thats not cross dressing by a long shot.
As a real drag queen if you don't believe me.
Also, why the puking?
Superman has the bod to pull it off.
Superman in a Wonder Woman costume and you're confused. I'd think the stiletto heels and crazy bathing suit stuff on Superman would look disturbing on so many levels.
Nahh, high heels were originally made for men.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:46 am
by shiiv-a
maybe not, but they WERE the high fashion for the courts and Royalty from the various countries in Europe. along with high on the head, powdered white wigs for ladies and the overly curly long tresses similar to what some of the British judges wear. then, lets not forget all the 'dresses' still being worn by the various Clergy about the world.
strange huh? ... and i rambled. what was i gonna say about the topic again?
OK, the industry by and large has women in slinkier and slinkier costumes. Now yes, the men are often in outfits just as tight, but by and large they're very rarely actually revealing.
Now with that said, I can understand part of the logic behind costumes (I normally chalk them up to being made out of the same material as a swimmer or skiier uses with the same basic purposes when they don't have access to super-fabrics) but do you all keep your women slinked and kinked out as they are in the comics (and in the concept art for HU most of the time) or do they get to go outside without instantly freezing to death?
i dont think that any of my chars wear the skin tight outfits. i personally find the idea that female char's have to run about in bikini's to fight crime.
.. okay MAYBE one now, IF its the 'high fashion thing' .. but that MIGHT be pushing it. she's recently become this fashion plate, and if fashion says its the thing to do, she'll give it a good hard look, and IF she thinks it would look good on her, might buy one.
otherwise? .. i think the occasional one might wear a mini with boots, so .. *shrugs*
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:01 am
by shiiv-a
he's a demigod ... so he doesn't have to really worry about it.
i just stated that my chars dress sensibly .. roxie at times worries me, but the insane do that in RL as well .. so .. *shrugs*
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:04 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Marrowlight wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:sawg138 wrote:Stone Gargoyle wrote:I never claimed to be an expert.
That certainly puts you in the minority.
Well, considering this is amongst the most geeky areas of study, I am actually glad of that fact. If I knew things like that at the drop of a hat for no reason, I might have to shoot myself.
That's it, be insulting -- worked so well for yah last time.
Perhaps if you take it as an insult, it can be construed as such. I was merely making an observation. I am considered quite a geek by many, and I was simply stating that to know minute facts on trivial things such as this would make me consider myself one beyond the point of no return.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:05 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
shiiv-a wrote:he's a demigod ... so he doesn't have to really worry about it.
i just stated that my chars dress sensibly .. roxie at times worries me, but the insane do that in RL as well .. so .. *shrugs*
hey, I resemble that remark.
Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:40 pm
by Marrowlight
meh, n'mind.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:02 am
by Sir_Spirit
duck-foot wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:sawg138 wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:sawg138 wrote:Sir_Spiri+ wrote:
Then why NOT wear something along the lines of Wonder Womans?
Because he would then be a drag queen?
No, he'd be wearing a star spangled speedo, and a shirt. Thats not cross dressing by a long shot.
As a real drag queen if you don't believe me.
Also, why the puking?
Superman has the bod to pull it off.
Superman in a Wonder Woman costume and you're confused. I'd think the stiletto heels and crazy bathing suit stuff on Superman would look disturbing on so many levels.
Nahh, high heels were originally made for men.
really. i mean ive seen boots from the 1700's with "high arches", but i wouldnt call them high heels.
See shiiv-a's last post above.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:04 am
by Sir_Spirit
Marrowlight wrote:meh, n'mind.
OH, c'mon, we're having a friendly discussion.
I promise I wont 'bite your head off unless it's some spelling/grammatical/punctuational anal-retentive thing.
Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:39 pm
by shiiv-a
well ... the smiley says it all ... i SAW a Deific name invoked .. and as such .. assumed that it had the heritage bloodlines of the same said being. my bad.
anyways .. i still don't think i'm impressed by blokes or bints that gotta flaunt their bodies like they were on an auction block and about to be sold. lemme guess .. they all be stunners to look at as well .. right? ...
*grabs the nearest airsickness bag and uses it* [k .. enough of the strange accents in the commentary]
anyways .. my point is simple. you start throwing various names of gods .. people gonna assume there is a tie in to the bloodline. i've had way to much of that happening with the one known as
God Complex.
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:53 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Platform shooes and much of the ghlam rock era illustrate then men can dress just as flashily, if not moreso, than women. And there was a point in the area of rock where men were trying to get attentiion by dressing as women or similar to what women wear. It is also a proven fact that most crossdressers are straight. Back to the metrosexual issue as well, some people like to be fashion plates. "My name is Ken and I have all the accessories..."
Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:26 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
I find it disturbing that you know that...
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 2:15 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
Justin Time the 4D Man wrote:I have a penchant for the classic superhero style. That uniform is standard issue for most of my government funded characters.
Same here.
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 3:56 pm
by shiiv-a
ahh .. explainse why i thought it was bogus stuff ... i don't got THOSE books either ...
Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:57 pm
by Marrowlight
shiiv-a wrote:ahh .. explainse why i thought it was bogus stuff ... i don't got THOSE books either ...
What HU books do you have, again?
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:33 pm
by shiiv-a
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 3:30 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
DUDE! You seriously need to get a collection going. My books are as follows:
HU2
PU1, 2 and 3
AU and AUGG
PB Compendium of Contemporary Weapons
N&SS and Mystic China( good additional bionics)
PF2, Monsters and Animals, and Dragons and Gods
After The Bomb RPG( awaiting actually, in mail)
Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:19 pm
by shiiv-a
*snickers*
while i agree with the sentiment .. i'll just change the DUDE to DUDETTE .. and we're good ...
Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:34 pm
by Stone Gargoyle
shiiv-a wrote:*snickers*
while i agree with the sentiment .. i'll just change the DUDE to DUDETTE .. and we're good ...
Well, I meant it in the expletive sense, not as an address. But if you insist, Dudette it is, then...