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I don't need to reread it. I wrote it.Alejandro wrote:For someone who wants others to reread what he's wrote, you're not to big on reading your own stuff, are you?
lather wrote:I don't need to reread it. I wrote it.Alejandro wrote:For someone who wants others to reread what he's wrote, you're not to big on reading your own stuff, are you?
If you are going to accuse me of something, the onus is on you to prove it. If you are not going to prove it, admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
I don't even know what this means. I'll try starting with a question.Alejandro wrote:lather wrote:I don't need to reread it. I wrote it.Alejandro wrote:For someone who wants others to reread what he's wrote, you're not to big on reading your own stuff, are you?
If you are going to accuse me of something, the onus is on you to prove it. If you are not going to prove it, admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
You DO need to reread it if you're going to go around telling people the same when you obviously didn't even remember what you wrote and instead decide to act like some wannabe intellectual douche.
I do not care. That is not dismissive. If I dismiss something, I reject it. I did not reject anything. I simply offered something that could be taken or not.Alejandro wrote:You claim to not be dismissive and then go "Take it. Leave it. I really don't care",
I did not backtrack. As Rallan correctly observed, I made a typo.Alejandro wrote:you then assume that players would not know about something so blatantly obvious and act insulting when someone calls you on it only to backtrack and say "oh, I meant the characters, not the players"
Increasing the number of personal insults does nothing productive. Consider a change of tactic.Alejandro wrote:even though you insist on acting like a chump.
Quote my insults.Alejandro wrote: You have consistently failed to bring anything to the table beyond weak insults and a house rule as a defense for your support of a stupid idea.
I read what I write. He says I don't. He's wrong. It's not more complex than that.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:I don't need to reread it. I wrote it.Alejandro wrote:For someone who wants others to reread what he's wrote, you're not to big on reading your own stuff, are you?
If you are going to accuse me of something, the onus is on you to prove it. If you are not going to prove it, admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
Whether or not the onus is on him depends on the motivations of the people involved.
If you care about your actions, and the question of how they affect other people, then it's on you to look into the matter yourself.
Because it's something that you care about, whether or not he proves his case.
Yes.Alejandro wrote:lather wrote:Quote my insults.
You are aware that being insulting goes beyond just using words that are specific insults, right?
What is troll bait? I am not sure I know what a troll is in this context.Alejandro wrote:But sure, why not take the troll bait one last time.
I am sorry you felt insulted.Alejandro wrote:They would not know that "all laws of physics are exactly the same".
Pay attention.unless, of course, it is obvious you have not read what I have said.admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
I disagree that I am of the opinion that it needs no explanation and should simply be accepted just because it is written.Alejandro wrote:Quote my stupid idea.
Read was written like you tell other people. I said in defense of a stupid idea, not your idea. The idea in question being the very subject of this thread regarding the mystical ability of various areas being able to handle MDC when MDC as technology was first seen and still displayed in the Rifts books as existing without the need for MDC magic. However, you're of the opinion that it needs no explanation and should simply be accepted just because it's written.
lather wrote:I read what I write. He says I don't. He's wrong. It's not more complex than that.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:I don't need to reread it. I wrote it.Alejandro wrote:For someone who wants others to reread what he's wrote, you're not to big on reading your own stuff, are you?
If you are going to accuse me of something, the onus is on you to prove it. If you are not going to prove it, admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
Whether or not the onus is on him depends on the motivations of the people involved.
If you care about your actions, and the question of how they affect other people, then it's on you to look into the matter yourself.
Because it's something that you care about, whether or not he proves his case.
Have it your way and let's say that's why I asked him to back up his accusation, which is somerthing he should have to do without me asking. That's how accusations work.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:I read what I write. He says I don't. He's wrong. It's not more complex than that.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:I don't need to reread it. I wrote it.Alejandro wrote:For someone who wants others to reread what he's wrote, you're not to big on reading your own stuff, are you?
If you are going to accuse me of something, the onus is on you to prove it. If you are not going to prove it, admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
Whether or not the onus is on him depends on the motivations of the people involved.
If you care about your actions, and the question of how they affect other people, then it's on you to look into the matter yourself.
Because it's something that you care about, whether or not he proves his case.
Sure it is.
Either you're saying something that you don't see, or he's reading something into your posts that isn't there.
In either case, if clear communication is your goal, then you share some responsibility to try to figure out what's happening and why.
lather wrote:Have it your way and let's say that's why I asked him to back up his accusation, which is somerthing he should have to do without me asking. That's how accusations work.Killer Cyborg wrote:Either you're saying something that you don't see, or he's reading something into your posts that isn't there.
In either case, if clear communication is your goal, then you share some responsibility to try to figure out what's happening and why.
No, which is why I was not hostile.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:Have it your way and let's say that's why I asked him to back up his accusation, which is somerthing he should have to do without me asking. That's how accusations work.Killer Cyborg wrote:Either you're saying something that you don't see, or he's reading something into your posts that isn't there.
In either case, if clear communication is your goal, then you share some responsibility to try to figure out what's happening and why.
Okay.
And do you believe that hostility is the right way to get helpful information out of him?
lather wrote:No, which is why I was not hostile.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:Have it your way and let's say that's why I asked him to back up his accusation, which is somerthing he should have to do without me asking. That's how accusations work.Killer Cyborg wrote:Either you're saying something that you don't see, or he's reading something into your posts that isn't there.
In either case, if clear communication is your goal, then you share some responsibility to try to figure out what's happening and why.
Okay.
And do you believe that hostility is the right way to get helpful information out of him?
That's unfortunate.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:No, which is why I was not hostile.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:Have it your way and let's say that's why I asked him to back up his accusation, which is somerthing he should have to do without me asking. That's how accusations work.Killer Cyborg wrote:Either you're saying something that you don't see, or he's reading something into your posts that isn't there.
In either case, if clear communication is your goal, then you share some responsibility to try to figure out what's happening and why.
Okay.
And do you believe that hostility is the right way to get helpful information out of him?
You seem hostile to me, and presumably to Alejandro, and probably to some other people.
lather wrote:That's unfortunate.Killer Cyborg wrote:You seem hostile to me, and presumably to Alejandro, and probably to some other people.
I mean, please, provide examples.
Alejandro wrote:They would not know that "all laws of physics are exactly the same".
Pay attention.unless, of course, it is obvious you have not read what I have said.admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
Sarcasm. That's something you're familiar with, I think.Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:That's unfortunate.Killer Cyborg wrote:You seem hostile to me, and presumably to Alejandro, and probably to some other people.
I mean, please, provide examples.
Well, right there starting off with "That's unfortunate" just makes it seem like you don't care how you come off to others. Kind of like saying, "That's your problem".
I am sorry he felt insulted because I do not think these are insulting things to say. Perhaps my skin is thicker than his?Killer Cyborg wrote:Also, there's the stuff that Alejandro already quoted:Alejandro wrote:They would not know that "all laws of physics are exactly the same".
Pay attention.unless, of course, it is obvious you have not read what I have said.admit your wrongdoing or at least sit quietly.
And your response to him on this was to put the burden of your actions on him, saying that you were sorry that he "felt insulted", which implies again that he's just being delusional and that you bear no responsibility for the impact of your words.
lather wrote:Sarcasm. That's something you're familiar with, I think.
Killer Cyborg wrote:And your response to him on this was to put the burden of your actions on him, saying that you were sorry that he "felt insulted", which implies again that he's just being delusional and that you bear no responsibility for the impact of your words.
I swear that was you!Killer Cyborg wrote:lather wrote:Sarcasm. That's something you're familiar with, I think.
Never heard of it.
I do try.Killer Cyborg wrote:I'll try to tone it down for him so as to not be accused of being an idiot, a douche, or a chump.
All you can do is try, but do try.
It's no fun when the mods get involved.
You DO need to reread it if you're going to go around telling people the same when you obviously didn't even remember what you wrote and instead decide to act like some wannabe intellectual douche.
:ok: Just the sort of thing I had been talking about.duck-foot wrote:heres good rule my gm used one time. i had a chrcter rift to HU from Rifts he was a CS spy. after i ran out of E-Clips for my MDC laser assualt rifle. i decided to get some E-clips from anothr contemporary HU Laser weapon. the Blasts after tht did SDC. i asked my GM why this was. he told me Because MDC E-clips are more profieciant at using power cells from thier tanks, that iswhy they are MDC and not SDC. well that could be true or not. the point is h gave an excellent reason why, and not just because it cant support MDC physics in theis world. my brother tried to use a plasma rifle from rifts. in order for it to work with MDC we actually had to tap into a city-wide (yes city-wide) transformer. my gms explination was that in the future those city-wide transformers will be scaled down considerabily, but still retain the equal amounts of power eventually becoming Rifts E-clips. well that might not be fesible, atleast has i said he didnt do a cop-out.
lather wrote::ok: Just the sort of thing I had been talking about.duck-foot wrote:heres good rule my gm used one time. i had a chrcter rift to HU from Rifts he was a CS spy. after i ran out of E-Clips for my MDC laser assualt rifle. i decided to get some E-clips from anothr contemporary HU Laser weapon. the Blasts after tht did SDC. i asked my GM why this was. he told me Because MDC E-clips are more profieciant at using power cells from thier tanks, that iswhy they are MDC and not SDC. well that could be true or not. the point is h gave an excellent reason why, and not just because it cant support MDC physics in theis world. my brother tried to use a plasma rifle from rifts. in order for it to work with MDC we actually had to tap into a city-wide (yes city-wide) transformer. my gms explination was that in the future those city-wide transformers will be scaled down considerabily, but still retain the equal amounts of power eventually becoming Rifts E-clips. well that might not be fesible, atleast has i said he didnt do a cop-out.
Did you have to turn the lights off on the entire city in order to hook up? I have no idea how these things work.