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Braden Campbell wrote:

azazel1024 wrote:We are talking about a galactic polity that is about as backwards politically as is possible and still remain a cohessive empire.
-Matt

I just wanted to say how much I love the Golgan for just that reason - they are a breath of fresh air in a setting packed with every concievable sci-fi trope. As a culture, they are unique, often laughable, and under the right circumstances, deadly. They're like Austro-Hungary... in space... with lasers and aliens.

BTW, if all goes well, their first attempt at extra-galactic colonization should appear in Thundercloud Galaxy.

Does a plot arc include several failed attempts to assinate the first citizen before someone finally succeeds?
-Matt

Hi there!

Braden Campbell wrote:
I just wanted to say how much I love the Golgan for just that reason - they are a breath of fresh air in a setting packed with every concievable sci-fi trope. As a culture, they are unique, often laughable, and under the right circumstances, deadly. They're like Austro-Hungary... in space... with lasers and aliens.

Like it was the "k.u.k." fleet which first launched triple gun turreted dreadnoughts? Or the bombardment of Ancona?

Adios
KLM

Heh.... I was thinking more along the lines of a multi-ethnic congloreration that really has nothing unifying it as a whole, apart from the fact that everyone happens to live within the same geographical border. For example, in the First World War, units from Austro-Hungary had to recieve their daily orders in no less than 11 different languages. I can easily see the Golgan, in some effort to preserve everyone's right to retain their own language rather than force them to learn Gologo Standard, doing the exact same thing.

Braden Campbell wrote:Heh.... I was thinking more along the lines of a multi-ethnic congloreration that really has nothing unifying it as a whole, apart from the fact that everyone happens to live within the same geographical border. For example, in the First World War, units from Austro-Hungary had to recieve their daily orders in no less than 11 different languages. I can easily see the Golgan, in some effort to preserve everyone's right to retain their own language rather than force them to learn Gologo Standard, doing the exact same thing.

Ugh! No wonder the frog-men keep getting pasted anytime they try and flex their muscles.
Pitty... but as with all great empires, theirs is dying soon near dead.

What number of decks do you see for each type of ship,if the races using them are under 12 feet?

Deck sizes should average approximately full standing height plus 5% + 3ft. The 5% is to give a little room to move at speed without clonking your head at every fast step. I wouldn't use the maximum height of the species, I'd use what would be considered high end.

US Navy ships aren't designed to accomodate Shaq, they are designed around 90% standards as far as I know. In other words anyone from about the 5 percentile to the 95 percentile should be able to fit in them well enough (around 4'10" up to about 6'4") above or below those sizes and its going to be ackward or cramped.

The extra call it 3 feet per deck is to accomodate the deck itself, crawlways, armored conduits, HVAC ducting, wiring, etc, etc, etc. For a really big species they'd need to be a bit bigger to accomodate larger crawlways, though of course not all decks might have them.

Reasonable enough to use though. So a CAF ship is probably going to be designed as multispecies, but none of the bigger ones (sorry Seljuk), so figure maybe 7ft 6in maximum accomodation to take in to account Wolfen, 5% (4.5 inches) maybe round so you have 8ft, add in 3ft for conduits, decking, etc, etc and you have 11ft per deck. Outer hulls are probably going to be anything from 2ft to 25ft thick depending on the size of the ship and if it is a single hull ship or a double hull ship and spacing between hulls. Of course not all of this is solid plate, some is keel, framing members, heat exchangers built in to the hull, etc, etc, etc.

So a 50ft tall ship in CAF service probably has 4 decks at its tallest point comprising about 44ft leaving the last 6ft to form a ventral and port hull section each about 3ft thick.
-Matt

Hi there!

azazel1024 wrote:Deck sizes should average approximately full standing height plus 5% + 3ft. The 5% is to give a little room to move at speed without clonking your head at every fast step. I wouldn't use the maximum height of the species, I'd use what would be considered high end.
(...)
-Matt

I would give a bit more, so that Joe Average could move in a space suit (ie. in helmet and thick, magnetic/gravitonic
shoes, also a bit broaded than "naked") - after all, it is a spaceship, and not supposed to go down if some sections
are decompressed.
That could add about 10 inches to "average high end" human sizes.

Otherwise sounds like a role of thumb to me.

Also, that extra 3 feet could be like 2 feet of air above the heads, which occasionally occupied by pipelines,
beams, whatever. A warship's interior might bear some resemblance to submarines - everything is placed so
that it can be reached without too much to be removed.

Adios
KLM

With all of the wiring, piping, etc runs you have in a ship, there would rarely be any 'air space' that wasn't occupied by condution, piping, etc in a ship. I think depending on the ship design it could be overhead utlities, or it could be underfoot in a crawl way with easily removable light gratings covering access or a combination of under foot and overhead.

I'd agree on the extra space for space suits, but the general design if probably still to keep it tight. Extra space is just more atmosphere you have to fill and maintain and wasted space on a the ship, especially warships and inexpensive commercial ships.
-Matt

I'd assume that dry dock is a pressurized zero gravity dock so that you can operate in your skivies, but still have all the advantages of working in zero G.

The Altess have very large expense accounts so everything is so heavily automated and basically everyone is an officer...think Lieutenant as the new Able Spacer. So their altess crews are tiny because it takes 1 man to do the work of 10 now.

The neutron cannons are still fairly decent weapons and there are organic threats in space (Necron, Coromal demons and devils, etc).

Otherwise I agree.
-Matt

I really dig this book, but I do have one big gripe. The down grading of the Kittani to just a bunch of high-tech apes picking bugs of each other in animalistic grooming rituals practically gave me a stroke when I read it. These are a highly advanced and proud race I just never invisioned them as being a bunch of gorillas with laser rifles.

I really dig this book, but I do have one big gripe. The down grading of the Kittani to just a bunch of high-tech apes picking bugs of each other in animalistic grooming rituals practically gave me a stroke when I read it. These are a highly advanced and proud race I just never invisioned them as being a bunch of gorillas with laser rifles.

@ Shadowwyrm; So you picked that up too, neh?
*chuckle*
It's not as bad as you're making it out though.
On further reading I came to teh conculsion that they're more like the armidillo-heads than "damned dirty apes!".
-sigh-
And in canon it IS revealed that some Sploogies don't give the Kittani as much leeway in their affairs as Splynn does, so yeah, they would regress to "nit-picking simmians".
So it's YOUR call as a GM to use the Kittani as given in the Atlantis book, or use Braden's knuckle-walkers

I thought it gave them some alieness, instead of just being humans with monkey heads.

:shrugs:

Dr. Hellstromme wrote:

azazel1024 wrote:The Altess have very large expense accounts so everything is so heavily automated and basically everyone is an officer...think Lieutenant as the new Able Spacer. So their altess crews are tiny because it takes 1 man to do the work of 10 now.

OK, my question must have been wrongly phrased. So here goes again:
considering the two Altess ships, the small one has a larger crew of human beings than the big one. Is there an obscure point in that or is it just a mistake?

The smaller one does not have enough room for the larger automation controls?

or it was intentionally designed with a larger crew. perhaps to serve as a "training ship" to get greater numbers of less experianced personell some experiance before taking command rank?

Braden Campbell wrote:I thought it gave them some alieness, instead of just being humans with monkey heads.

:shrugs:

Sorry, but alieness isn't grooming each other like earth apes,just my oppinion though, I really like your work on the book, that little bit just bugs me.

Also a few of the rumored Phase World space fleet would of been great. I always wanted to see what a Promeathean Battleship would look like.

What number of CCW,s ships in it?

Did they give info about the Ranks and departments in the CCW,s military?

What do you think was missing from it?

gaby wrote:What number of CCW,s ships in it?

Did they give info about the Ranks and departments in the CCW,s military?

What do you think was missing from it?

1) Fleets of the Three Galaxies, pg. 37
2) Fleets of the Three Galaxies, pg. 38
3) Your input

Scorpion Leader wrote:

azazel1024 wrote:I agree on both accounts. It wouldn't be to hard to come up with basic rules like point blank is 1/10th maximum range, 1/4 for short, 1/2 for medium, and up to the full range for long. Maybe you tinker with it for different weapon types or maybe you just keep it the same across the board.

For different models, no reason why it should be different. That said, there should be differences if you really want FB versions. The FB version of the Scorpion and Black Eagle should really be 2 seaters with a seperate weapon/sensor operate to take the load off the pilot as well as maybe more advanced sensors and targetting computers to go along with that cruise missile package.

Also, the Scorpion at least should have a 2 seater training version, that or the CCW and TGE need a trainer fighter. That is one thing I don't like about the TGE, one and only one type of fighter. I'd like to see at least one or two additional types (with one having a training option), the TGE is likely to have at least a dedicated heavy fighter/bomber and the CCW is as well.
-Matt

My thoughts exactly!! I think an FB version of the Black Eagle with a weapons officer and tail gunner would be really cool !! It already seats three anyway. Change the loadout to include more cruise missles (at least four total) and dump ethier one of the guns (probablly the lasers) or the mini missiles,then add a tail gun and some more sophisticated sensors, Wa-la a true Fighter Bomber/Attack Fighter!! (even better if its got FTL) What do you think?

Then agian a Katana can already be equipped like this. All the other fighters should have been made more like it.
-Brent

i agree with Scorpion Leader
how about put a single rear heavy GR rail gun 1d6 x10 to 3d6x10 M.D.C range 2 miles or dual ear heavy GR rail gun 1d6 x10 to 3d6x10 M.D.C or 2d6x10 to 6d6x20 MDC range 2 mile
or
heavy energy beam weapon
or dual weapon system rear heavy gun and heavy beam weapon
and
you can put an internal bay of mini missiles 24 each bay x2 per wing ,or 18 short range missile X2 per wing , medium range missile 8 x2 per wing , 4 light weight long range range missile x2 per wing weight 1000 lds.

add engine F.T.L 1D4 Per light year
add VFF system 100 to 400 per side
add 100 to 200 mdc to main body plus 100 to wings and other MDC locations
WELL WHAT DO THINK ?

ZINO wrote:

Scorpion Leader wrote:

azazel1024 wrote:I agree on both accounts. It wouldn't be to hard to come up with basic rules like point blank is 1/10th maximum range, 1/4 for short, 1/2 for medium, and up to the full range for long. Maybe you tinker with it for different weapon types or maybe you just keep it the same across the board.

For different models, no reason why it should be different. That said, there should be differences if you really want FB versions. The FB version of the Scorpion and Black Eagle should really be 2 seaters with a seperate weapon/sensor operate to take the load off the pilot as well as maybe more advanced sensors and targetting computers to go along with that cruise missile package.

Also, the Scorpion at least should have a 2 seater training version, that or the CCW and TGE need a trainer fighter. That is one thing I don't like about the TGE, one and only one type of fighter. I'd like to see at least one or two additional types (with one having a training option), the TGE is likely to have at least a dedicated heavy fighter/bomber and the CCW is as well.
-Matt

My thoughts exactly!! I think an FB version of the Black Eagle with a weapons officer and tail gunner would be really cool !! It already seats three anyway. Change the loadout to include more cruise missles (at least four total) and dump ethier one of the guns (probablly the lasers) or the mini missiles,then add a tail gun and some more sophisticated sensors, Wa-la a true Fighter Bomber/Attack Fighter!! (even better if its got FTL) What do you think?

Then agian a Katana can already be equipped like this. All the other fighters should have been made more like it.
-Brent

i agree with Scorpion Leader
how about put a single rear heavy GR rail gun 1d6 x10 to 3d6x10 M.D.C range 2 miles or dual ear heavy GR rail gun 1d6 x10 to 3d6x10 M.D.C or 2d6x10 to 6d6x20 MDC range 2 mile
or
heavy energy beam weapon
or dual weapon system rear heavy gun and heavy beam weapon
and
you can put an internal bay of mini missiles 24 each bay x2 per wing ,or 18 short range missile X2 per wing , medium range missile 8 x2 per wing , 4 light weight long range range missile x2 per wing weight 1000 lds.

add engine F.T.L 1D4 Per light year
add VFF system 100 to 400 per side
add 100 to 200 mdc to main body plus 100 to wings and other MDC locations
WELL WHAT DO THINK ?

I think it has merrit. Thus spoke the DhAk-meister

DhAkael wrote:

ZINO wrote:

Scorpion Leader wrote:

azazel1024 wrote:I agree on both accounts. It wouldn't be to hard to come up with basic rules like point blank is 1/10th maximum range, 1/4 for short, 1/2 for medium, and up to the full range for long. Maybe you tinker with it for different weapon types or maybe you just keep it the same across the board.

For different models, no reason why it should be different. That said, there should be differences if you really want FB versions. The FB version of the Scorpion and Black Eagle should really be 2 seaters with a seperate weapon/sensor operate to take the load off the pilot as well as maybe more advanced sensors and targetting computers to go along with that cruise missile package.

Also, the Scorpion at least should have a 2 seater training version, that or the CCW and TGE need a trainer fighter. That is one thing I don't like about the TGE, one and only one type of fighter. I'd like to see at least one or two additional types (with one having a training option), the TGE is likely to have at least a dedicated heavy fighter/bomber and the CCW is as well.
-Matt

My thoughts exactly!! I think an FB version of the Black Eagle with a weapons officer and tail gunner would be really cool !! It already seats three anyway. Change the loadout to include more cruise missles (at least four total) and dump ethier one of the guns (probablly the lasers) or the mini missiles,then add a tail gun and some more sophisticated sensors, Wa-la a true Fighter Bomber/Attack Fighter!! (even better if its got FTL) What do you think?

Then agian a Katana can already be equipped like this. All the other fighters should have been made more like it.
-Brent

i agree with Scorpion Leader
how about put a single rear heavy GR rail gun 1d6 x10 to 3d6x10 M.D.C range 2 miles or dual ear heavy GR rail gun 1d6 x10 to 3d6x10 M.D.C or 2d6x10 to 6d6x20 MDC range 2 mile
or
heavy energy beam weapon
or dual weapon system rear heavy gun and heavy beam weapon
and
you can put an internal bay of mini missiles 24 each bay x2 per wing ,or 18 short range missile X2 per wing , medium range missile 8 x2 per wing , 4 light weight long range range missile x2 per wing weight 1000 lds.

add engine F.T.L 1D4 Per light year
add VFF system 100 to 400 per side
add 100 to 200 mdc to main body plus 100 to wings and other MDC locations
WELL WHAT DO THINK ?

I think it has merrit. Thus spoke the DhAk-meister

thank you
but huh

DhAk-meister

???

I think it has some merit, but I think it needs to be a stretched version with an extra 8ft added to it, no FTL engine and no extra mini-missiles. All this at a 30% price premium. Everything else seems about right.

The extra minimissiles and FTL drive, to my mind at least, seem like they'd take up way to much extra space in the ship, even adding some length to it.

Briefly on the FB versions of ships, that is one of the things I didn't like about the Scorpion FB...so it can carry a pair of cruise missiles on pylons...big whoopty, why the hell is it 66% more expensive just adding some pylons? It should have something else going for it. Backseater maybe (no tail gun), better sensor package, maybe a basic force field (maybe 200MDC) OR some light variable force fields (100 a side, 600 total) AND the ability to carry a pair of cruise missiles.
-Matt

Dr. Hellstromme wrote:

Shadow Wyrm wrote:Also a few of the rumored Phase World space fleet would of been great. I always wanted to see what a Promeathean Battleship would look like.

I made one of those a few years ago.

DAME!!!!!!! N1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW: The TGE does have a second fighter type. Under the stats for the Doombringer Dreadnaught it say's there is FB version of the Tri-Fang that carries cruise missiles. But as we have all established this really is not a true FB.
Also the lack of any sort of trainner for any of the Galatic powers is suprising and need (even for the powers like the CS and Triax on Rifts Earth need a traineer for their convetional fighters as well). I'd also like to comment as to why no one has yet in the Three Galaxies has been listed as using the Naruni Star Dragon or Cresent Moon Fighters? The Rifts Mercs and Naruni Phase 2 list that there are Powers in the Three Galaxies who do?

As for an FB with FTL, I don't see no reason why it can't be done (If done to an exsisting fighter like the CAF BE, by making it a streched model with added Mass, then I can see performance like speed in an Atmophere being futher affected as well as any dodge bonuses etc.) Also a purpose built FTL FB should be considred a Strategic or Special Mission Type craft.

Now on a side bar when will we ever get and learn about the following (all of which has been mentioned or eluded to in various Phase World sourcebooks but have never flushed out)???

My list is as follows:
CCW GSA Agent O.C.C. (mentioned in the Phase World book but no O.C.C. given)
The Terror Lizard
(listed as being in the monster section of Phase World Book under the Seljuk write up but can't be found anywhere)

More Phase Ships like the Phase Cruisers and Battleships mentioned in Dimentional Outbreak.

I'd like to see a revised edition of the Phase World Book & Phase World Sourcebook, with updates to the O.C.C.,R.C.C., and NPC's. This is need because for or one thing with the listed NPC's like Thraxus everyone's listed # of H-T-H attacks is now wrong and outdated.
This is do to changes that were made to the H-t-H Combat skills and Rules in both the Rifts GM guide & Rifts Ultimate Editon.
For another why does a CAF Fleet Officer have Pilot Spacefighter only at the Basic Level (50% + 3% per lev. exp.), when that O.C.C. can take any piloting skill as an other skill at +10%??? Why does the CAF Trooper and Fleet Officer have Robot & Power Armor Combat: Basic and yet not the Skill Pilot: Robot & Power Armor, which is Required in order to take Robot & Power Armor Combat: Basic or Advanced(same goes for The TGE Legionaire)??? Why Doesn't the CAF Fleet Officer have the skill Space Fighter Combat: Basic or Elite??? The CAF Trooper (If not the CAF Fleet Officer as well) and TGE Legionaire both need to be updated with the Skill: Forced March.

On another side bar I' d like to see:

More About the CCW/CAF Discovery Corps, Consortium (CAF) Scouting Corps, Consortium Planetary (Exploration/Survey) Expiditions Corps.
I'd like to see a CAF Special Forces Commando O.C.C., A CAF Fighter Pilot and Robot/Power Armor O.C.C., CAF Technical and Medical Officer O.C.C.'s (other than CAF Fleet Officer, CAF Trooper and Turbo Jock, same goes for the other Major Galatic powers as well).

The UWW and FWC both have a greater varity of O.C.C.'s Than the CAF and TGE right now.
As they are the Two Most Major Powers in the Three Galaxies, you'd think there would be more varity of O.C.C. for both.

For peet sake!! The FWC who were trained by CCW advisors have a better and more interesting line of O.C.C.'s, as given in Phase World: The Three Galaxies Sourcebook than the CCW!! Most of which are even more capable than the Current CAF O.C.C.'s!!

A Spacer Miner O.C.C. and Galatic Ambassador/Politician O.C.C. would be cool as well.

Bringing the Void Whales (as MDC creatures) to the Three Galaxies from Aliens Unlimitied 2 would also be Awesome!

And what about the Rathenor, the Toogarth, and Antorians as well (but the first two would do)!!

I'd also like to see the Xiticix show up (maybe their involved in a war against the Star Hives) and of course everybodies favorite Cybernetic life form (excluding:Terminators,Daleks,Cybermen, and Borg) The Mechinoids!!!

What about the Meganaut and Bioaw (come on even if the Bioaw are the power source for the Dominators planetoid size ships we still deserve stats for them don't you think!) among others.

Yes I know I've mentioned this some if not all of this elsewhere before, but it does need reminding so the powers that be at Palladium remember to get us this stuff (as they were the ones who forgot as to what they mention and not yet fulfilled)!!!

I know there is some other stuff as well, but I'll mention those some other time, when I remember just exactly what they are??

Cain wrote:The article from Rifter 50 about the FWC[/b], that names some of the original Cadre, and vaguely describes the new Cadre, and has quickstats for the FWC leader. This article should go into a revised PW Sourcebook as official-- but Rachael Klass should be fully statted out, and at least three or four other Cadre members should be named (with quick-stats at the least).

The Original FWC Cadre

Micheal Klass - human, former Lt in the Imperial Legions, FWC Commander-in-Chief
Vasto Haseeb - human, former first officer on the Doombringer Nisbroloth, head of the FWC Areospace Corps
Misner Sowa - Trensik, commander of the visiting Trensik Mercenaries, Cadre special advisor
Lt. Heiegor - Wulfen, former technical officer in the Imperial legion, Cadre Minister of Technology and War
Mireat - Shilouette, former Imperial Secuirty Agent, became the leader of all FWC intelligence operations

* these are taken from my notes for the first Palladium Open House, from which that article in Rifter #50 eventually grew. I never stated out the characters, although I can tell you that Klass is the only one of a Good alignment, and that Mireat is diabolic.

Officially, Mireat died of old age, and was the last of the original members to go. Since her people can live to be 500 years old, and the FWC Rebellion started 100 years ago, she was a) probably middle aged when the fighting began, and b) of quite a high level.

Now that I think about it though... maybe something happened and she had to fake her own death. She was an Imperial Security Agent after all. Being sneaky was her second nature. If she were still around today, she would be quite old (but there's ways around infirmity in the Three Galaxies), quite experienced (like 10th level or more), and quite dangerous. Remember that, unlike the Cadre of today, who are more like politicians, she's still of the old school and sees tehe FWC only as a means for power and control of the masses.

Anything more, I leave up to you.

I always thought Db3:Phase world sourcebook need to get updated and Expanded.

If they ever make it what do you hope they would add.
I hope it,s a Map of the 3 Galaxies,better art,more member races of CCW and TGE.

Definetly need maps. Dimensional Outbreak has one, so at least we now have an idea of where the galaxies are, and some of distances... Someone on here made a really awesome set of maps awhile back. I'm not sure how correct they are, but I believe them to be pretty darn close. KS should just pay that dude to use them, spruce them up and fact check them, then toss them in a book. Also, I think a new phaseworld book should get the RUE treatment and be updated as such. I think there needs to be more info on the criminal side of center, like the underwolrd stuff that happens on the sly. Obviously there would be gangs and such. Therefore, we need a lot more info on security and the Promethians. Also, with the maps, publish some of the shipping routes through the 3 galaxies. Then, to top it off, a lot more ships, a few new occ's/rcc's and an entire section or even seperate book filled with ship construction rules and equipment for ships and also tons of equipment. GURPS has a whole book dedicated to crap like this. So should RIFTS. Also, somewhere along the way, there should be in depth rules on creating power armor and body armor, not just the tiny bit posted with the operator occ in RUE. Man... I'm not asking for much huh? But I think I just pitched the next 2-3 books that should come about.

Hi there!

MaxxSterling wrote:Also, somewhere along the way, there should be in depth rules on creating power armor and body armor, not just the tiny bit posted with the operator occ in RUE. Man... I'm not asking for much huh? But I think I just pitched the next 2-3 books that should come about.

Yepp, along with TW stuff... And this should be a good time to "restat" the ships, so that twenty-some Doombringers
could do a difference in the face of nearly 20 thousand Protectors and Packmasters...

ADios
KLM

Maybe Palladiumbook can make a Video Game on 3 Galaxies,where players take command of a ship,they go on missions win rank and better ships.
I always wanted a game where I control a Big ship.
They can use the ships in Fleets of 3 Galaxies.

MaxxSterling wrote:Definetly need maps. Dimensional Outbreak has one, so at least we now have an idea of where the galaxies are, and some of distances... Someone on here made a really awesome set of maps awhile back. I'm not sure how correct they are, but I believe them to be pretty darn close. KS should just pay that dude to use them, spruce them up and fact check them, then toss them in a book. Also, I think a new phaseworld book should get the RUE treatment and be updated as such. I think there needs to be more info on the criminal side of center, like the underwolrd stuff that happens on the sly. Obviously there would be gangs and such. Therefore, we need a lot more info on security and the Promethians. Also, with the maps, publish some of the shipping routes through the 3 galaxies. Then, to top it off, a lot more ships, a few new occ's/rcc's and an entire section or even seperate book filled with ship construction rules and equipment for ships and also tons of equipment. GURPS has a whole book dedicated to crap like this. So should RIFTS. Also, somewhere along the way, there should be in depth rules on creating power armor and body armor, not just the tiny bit posted with the operator occ in RUE. Man... I'm not asking for much huh? But I think I just pitched the next 2-3 books that should come about.

I agree with add magic , bio- ships ,demons ships ,crystal ships ,pure energy ships and so on from fighter to Dreadnought ships

Yeah more maps and more detailed descriptions of various areas of space & different planets. Blueprints/Deck plans of some of the more note worthy ships. more O.C.C.'s for the CAF/CCW. I'd like to see The GSA Agent, CAF Commando, CAF Fighter/Robot Pilot, Galatic Ambassador/Politician, Glalatic Merchant/Trader/Arms Dealer, a Galatic Law Enforcement /Space Ranger (other than the the Galatic Tracer or Wulfen Quatoria) O.C.C's to name a few. As I've said before more on the CCW/CAF goverment, Bases, Discovery Corps (ships & O.C.C.'s), Consortium Scouting Corps (ships & O.C.C.'s), Consortium Planetary Expeditions Corps (ships & O.C.C.'s), May need to do A sourcebook just on the Consortium alone!! More on the TGE (more fighter ships for them), more Promeathian Ships (sub-capital & Capital designs) and info. about them and Phase World and Center(MAPS). More UWW and FWC. More on the Gene-Tech and their Ships, Area(s) of space, and bases of operation. More on the Star Hives and their Territory. Over All In General: All the Stuff we've all been longing for!!

What UWW,s ships was in fleets?

What type of ships do you think the UWW need?

I think deck plans would be amazing for all the ships that currently exist in this game. I tried making some up before, but got bored with it. The publisher should make this stuff anyhow, not the gamers.

Gaby:
The UWW/Elven Bright Wander Class multi-role Capital ship for one was in Fleets.
The UWW could use another fighter class of their own techno-wizard design, maybe another frigate/destroyer class as well.

I'd also like to see some more outposts/space stations describe (stats & deckplans) for all the major powers.
I would like more info. on some of the more Note Worthy Client members of the CCW & info. on their Independent Defense Forces like that of the Human Alliance. Also more on the Altess and their ships and equipment. I'd like to see info/stats on the Phase World Space Gates. As I've already mentioned before I'd like to see the missing info. from the Core Phase World Book on the Seljuk Terror Lizard, CCW/CAF Sheild Bearer Missile Tank, among others come to light. There is even an organization mentioned in the Adventures Section that said it would be describe below in the text but then never was. The name of the organization slips my mind at the moment. I'll look it up and post it in the future.
I'd Like to finally see the stats for the Golgan Auntin Class (frigate/destroyer?), the CCW/CAF Stonewall Class Cruiser and the CCW/CAF frigate (forgot the name) also given quick stats in Fleets but not fleshed out in that book.

You are Right Scorpion Leader.
Thundercloud will have some CCW,s members who live ther.

Scorpion Leader wrote:Gaby:
I'd Like to finally see the stats for the Golgan Auntin Class (frigate/destroyer?), the CCW/CAF Stonewall Class Cruiser and the CCW/CAF frigate (forgot the name) also given quick stats in Fleets but not fleshed out in that book.

All three (the Corrister-class is the frigate you are trying to recall) should be appearing in Thundercloud Galaxy, since they are commonly used nowadays as pirate ships.

Sure, ask away.

As for the pirates... you'll get a sizable section on them, how they raid, what they go raiding for, and a breakdown of who's in chare fo what onboard the ship. Aslo, the difference between pirates and privateers.

What ships do you think is a let down?

Maybe Phase world fleets of the three Galaxies2 have ships of the Thundercloud,s powers?

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

The one where I can't find the restroom, the drive cranks out a paltry 1 light year every 365 days, the food synthesizer only pumps out bean-based products, the ventilation system smells like something died in it, the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

taalismn wrote:

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

Could be better / worse; The Shat sings 'Rocketman'

DhAkael wrote:

taalismn wrote:

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

Could be better / worse; The Shat sings 'Rocketman'

Well, I now have something else I need to belt-sander off my lobes!

DhAkael wrote:

taalismn wrote:

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

Could be better / worse; The Shat sings 'Rocketman'

Even worse Leonard Nimoy singing the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins.

Shawn Merrow wrote:

DhAkael wrote:

taalismn wrote:

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

Could be better / worse; The Shat sings 'Rocketman'

Even worse Leonard Nimoy singing the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins.

Hand me the power drill, willya? I heard about this procedure called 'trepanning'---maybe it will let the evil spirits out of my head...

taalismn wrote:

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

The one where I can't find the restroom, the drive cranks out a paltry 1 light year every 365 days, the food synthesizer only pumps out bean-based products, the ventilation system smells like something died in it, the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

wait, didn't i write that one up before?
i seem to remember filling them with Midget hexapodal artic psycho-bears..

glitterboy2098 wrote:

taalismn wrote:

gaby wrote:What ships do you think is a let down?

The one where I can't find the restroom, the drive cranks out a paltry 1 light year every 365 days, the food synthesizer only pumps out bean-based products, the ventilation system smells like something died in it, the communications system keeps replaying 'William Shatner Sings the Priceline Savings", and the computer keeps asking me what other ship I'd rather have.

wait, didn't i write that one up before?
i seem to remember filling them with Midget hexapodal artic psycho-bears..

Oh yeah. Forgot to add that; and the other crewmembers are trying to eat me.

"chor'ii shipyard facility #0001, #0002, #0678, et al. bringing you the top of the line in crap for centuries. then killing you with it"

glitterboy2098 wrote:"chor'ii shipyard facility #0001, #0002, #0678, et al. bringing you the top of the line in crap for centuries. then killing you with it"

"So, what will it be? Drive failure? Radiation shield leak? Or Donner Party In Space?"

taalismn wrote:

glitterboy2098 wrote:"chor'ii shipyard facility #0001, #0002, #0678, et al. bringing you the top of the line in crap for centuries. then killing you with it"

"So, what will it be? Drive failure? Radiation shield leak? Or Donner Party In Space?"

I'll take drive failure for 200 mil bob.

batlchip wrote:

taalismn wrote:[


"So, what will it be? Drive failure? Radiation shield leak? Or Donner Party In Space?"

I'll take drive failure for 200 mil bob.

"Instant Catastrophic Dead-Before-You-Know-It or Sporadic-Get-Your-Hopes-Up-Of-Maybe-Pulling-Into-Port?"