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Re: Quick FAQ: M203

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:47 pm
by ArmySGT.
SpiritInterface wrote:Either way, unless you are going to get hyper technical it is a moot point. If you don't like what the book says ignore it or change it. All I said was that the writers for simplicity lumped the 40mm grenade round with the mini missile and the LAWS.

We could endlessly debate this it doesn't matter. I mean what would the damage of a 40mm HEDP using enhanced K-HEX be compared the a conventional m72 LAWS or a RPG-28?


Apparently so. When ever pinned to an answer, your answer is to move the goal posts back just a bit further.

So what is the damage for a cannon style fissionable warhead in 40mm vs the M72A2 with RDX explosive fillers?

Re: Quick FAQ: M203

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 6:55 pm
by jaymz
ArmySGT. wrote:So per the latest variation of Heroes Unlimited Palladium writers have seen there is a difference, maybe they did not read the Compendium of Modern Weapons..........



Actually my Companedium of modern weapons has most 40mm Grenades doing 1d6x10 and the LAWs doing 1d4x100-1d6x100

Re: Quick FAQ: M203

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:58 am
by Jefffar
Just a quick few notes regarding the Contemporary Weapons Compendium which was published in 1993.

40mm Grenade damages
Page 114 it does 1D6x100
Page 116 it does 1D6x10
Page 117 it does 1D6x10
Page 118 it does 1D6x10
Page 119 it does 1D6x10 (the weapon here being the M203)
Page 120 it does 1D6x10

In reality all the 40mm grenade launchers on these pages fire the same 40mm grenades. The idea of 1D6x100 grenades is based on an error putting an extra digit on the damage multipliers for Austrian made 40mm weapons. It's not like this is the only place such errors occur in the book.

For example, the 5.45mm AK-74 (mis-identified as an Ak-47) does 5D6 damage on page 76 but the short barreled version using the same ammunition does 1D6 damage on page 98. On page 75 the AK-47 does 5D6 damage but the AKM which is essentially the same gun does 3D6. 7.62 NATO and 7.62 Soviet are consistently given the same damage throughout the book despite being radically different in terms of power. On page 108 we see a .50 calibre round do 2D6x10+10, almost twice what it does in the rest of the book and a 5.56mm cartridge jump from 3D6 to 1D6x10+10 - almost 4x it's base damage.

By cherry picking these sorts of errors in a 20 year old book it is certainly possible to get outrageous stats for some things, but a little common sense and flipping a few pages can get things sorted out.

Re: Quick FAQ: M203

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:09 am
by Jefffar
Just a reminder to argue the discussion rather than comment on each other.

Re: Quick FAQ: M203

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:48 pm
by Killer Cyborg
Little Snuzzles wrote:
Lucky wrote:Anyone else catch this? :lol:


Hee hee. :D


I thought it sounded a little fishy.

Re: Quick FAQ: M203

Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:48 pm
by jaymz
Killer Cyborg wrote:
Little Snuzzles wrote:
Lucky wrote:Anyone else catch this? :lol:


Hee hee. :D


I thought it sounded a little fishy.


Yeah though the smell gave it away for me :P ;)