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Sentinel wrote:Yes.
Like I love enemas.

Well, I'm just going to have to break a canon rule.
Join the club.
Why is WuShu Tsung exclusive? It's no more powerful than TKD(in fact, less so). And yet Shaolin isn't exclusive (not that I want it to be).

There is no rhyme or reason for why styles are Exclusive in N&S.

Having done several intense and detailed comparisons and studies of the martial art styles in N&S, I have come to the conclusion that that non-Exclusive styles cost the equivalent of three Basic skill programs (which average 5 skills) and Exclusive styles cost the equivalent of five Basic skill programs (for totals of 15 skills and 25 skills respectively). Thai Kick Boxing and 'Ninjitsu,' despite their higher "martial art style" cost (i.e. Two martial arts) aren't affected because the power level of the styles isn't significantly higher than Exclusive styles. On the other hand, non-N&S characters often receive fewer skills than their N&S counterparts, so the skill equivalencies could be cut by 1/3 of the skills needed (10 and 16 skills respectively), but this would apply to OCC/Other skills, with Secondary skills being considered ½ skill for purchase purposes. However, I should also point out that the "power"/skill equivalency of the various martial art styles changes which styles are Exclusive and which are not. I use the following replacement for determining Exclusive/non-Exclusive styles:
The following Revised Ninjas & Superspies and Mystic China martial arts are not Exclusive: Aikido, An Yin, Ba Gua, Bak Mei, Bok Pai, Ch'a Ch'uan, Chao Ta, Chi Hsuan Men, Chin-Na, Choy-Li-Fut, Gui Long, Han Yu, Hsing-I, Lee Kwan Choo, Li Chia, Liang Hsiung, Mien Chuan, Moo Gi Gong, Pao Pat Mei, Sankukai Karate, Shan Tung, Shih Ba Ban Wu Yi, Snake Style, Tai Chi Chuan, Taido, Tang Su, Te, Tong Lun, Triad Assassin, Yu Sool, and Zanji Shinjinken Ryu
The following martial art styles are considered Exclusive (meaning they must be the first style learned by the character): Drunken Style, Fong Ngan, Fu Chiao Pai, Hsien Hsia*, Hwarang Do, Isshin Ryu, Jujutsu, Kuo-Ch'uan, Kyokushinkai, Monkey Style, Ninjutsu, Pao Chih, Shao Lin, Sumo, Tae Kwon Do, Thai Kick Boxing, Tien Hsueh, Wu Shu Tsung**, Wui Wing Chun, and Xing Chiao.
*Note: Hsien Hsia, if taken, can be the only martial art learned by that character.
**Wu Shu Tsung is listed in its description as being a requirement for Chinese espionage agents. This note should either be removed, or a reasonable solution should be found which would make the style available for espionage agent O.C.C.s ( I recommend additional loss of skill programs).
This revised system results in a much more balanced approach to equating martial art styles with skills and their availability.
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ash_wednesday wrote:We need N&SS 2nd ed!!!!


The last time I went to work on it, I got distracted by the question of total update vs just fixing the problems. That's why it's not done. Sorry.
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Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:We need N&SS 2nd ed!!!!


The last time I went to work on it, I got distracted by the question of total update vs just fixing the problems. That's why it's not done. Sorry.

It would be quicker if you did updates...


No it wouldn't. My updates busted 1000 pages of text in six months.
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I like ninjas; they're a great combination of the mystic, the magical and the martial. What about all of those old ninja films from the late 80s? Coooool stunts and neat tricks. It's like Halloween, only Japanese.

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ash_wednesday wrote:
Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:
Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:We need N&SS 2nd ed!!!!


The last time I went to work on it, I got distracted by the question of total update vs just fixing the problems. That's why it's not done. Sorry.

It would be quicker if you did updates...


No it wouldn't. My updates busted 1000 pages of text in six months.
1000 pages..in you spare time??? I tought I had too much time on my hands...j/k... :D


Well, it would probably be more, but having to do research has really slowed me down.
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ash_wednesday wrote:
Sentinel wrote:Anything I need to know about Ninja, I get from my collection of Ninja Magazine from the eighties and early nineties.

Everything I need to know about ninjas I get from the three TMNT movies
:D


They saw coverage in the Ninja Magazine, so I got the best of both worlds. :D
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ash_wednesday wrote:I might had read those magiznes. I was a big turtle fan back then..


Try The Official TMNT Web Site!
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Chinese Assasins did more ingenious stuff then Ninjas..


they also ran the Fai lung Gong trade...


and pretended to be healers and diviners as well
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Malignor wrote:Personally, I think they did a not bad job of the ninjas in The Last Samurai...


You mean, besides the jet-black jumpsuits, straight-bladed ninja-to, crossbows, and absolute lack of anything even remotely resembling proper taijutsu?? Uh, sure. :-?

There's also the slight historical wrinkle that the "ninja" hadn't been used in such a military capacity in well over 100 years...


The Japanese did have crossbows, several types no less, they just weren't commonly used.
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They must have existed. Fossil records clearly show that Ninjas are responsible for the deaths of the dinosaurs.
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Because they'd flip put and cut their heads off
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Actually its about a 5 year old joke here on the forums. It has to show up pretty much everytime we talk about ninjas or ninjas will flip out and cut our heads off.
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Jefffar wrote:Actually its about a 5 year old joke here on the forums. It has to show up pretty much everytime we talk about ninjas or ninjas will flip out and cut our heads off.


Your head maybe. :lol:
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My head, his head, it's always someone's
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Jefffar wrote:My head, his head, it's always someone's



" You die, she dies, every-body dies!"
when you get right down to it, Sentinel's right.~Uncle Servo.

Sentinel. you'll be always loved by the German Princess.~Nelly

That's twice in one day Sentinel has cleaned up my mess.~The Galactus Kid.

That's the best place to start. Otherwise, listen to Sentinel~lather

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