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Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:22 am
by Zer0 Kay
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
psionicninja2000 wrote:
MrNexx wrote:
Ziggy78eog wrote:I highly doubt it see as one of the highest ranking generals in the CS Army is a woman. General Cashbrook I believe.


Bah. She's a token. Everyone knows the REAL work of the Army is done by old white men. ;-)

Too many nasty comments to make about this statement and so little time...
Anyway, I can see Uncle Karl quite easily making posters promoting the traditional values of womanhood, kitchen, children, and church (or whatever passes as such in the CS) and writing up a absurd number of edicts that give incentives for large families. Hey, it worked for his idol Adolf Hitler...
:nh: and just like the three 'R's Reading, Riting :D and R-itmatic they'd call it the three 'K's (oh god... :oops: I just thought of how that could be taken so terribly bad. I am so sorry. I shall now self-flagellate self-:thwak:. I shall however finish my thought in the innocent facetious gesture towards the U.S. education system as it was intended. But now I feel so... so dirty) :( any way the 3 'K's of Karl. I must go bathe now :-?


"Kirche, Kueche, Kinder"
Are you actually trying to make me feel better Kalinda? :D Thanks for not bitting me :D You do know I was refering to Kitchen, Khildren and Khurch (:lol: they seem even funnier written down) right.


Yes, I was trying to make you feel better, or at least show others that you're not a complete raving nutcase.(yeah yeah I know, lost cause...) :lol:

Mainly I thought it was a good link that showed the nazi attitude toward women and might be relevant to the thread.
Hey! I'm sane everyone else (who doesn't play RPGs) is crazy :D You know what the sad thing is? I didn't notice it was a link and since I didn't know it was German, I didn't even realize... wow what a coincidence that it just happened to be 3 Ks in German, I just figured it would be the stupidest link to the U.S.'s 3 Rs with Kitchen, Khildren and Khurch (almost sounds like a law firm if pronounced correctly :nh: :D) Gee maybe subconciously I know German (yeah German chocolate, German Cars and German Leaders :thwak: there I save you some time :D)

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:36 am
by Kalinda
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
psionicninja2000 wrote:
MrNexx wrote:
Ziggy78eog wrote:I highly doubt it see as one of the highest ranking generals in the CS Army is a woman. General Cashbrook I believe.


Bah. She's a token. Everyone knows the REAL work of the Army is done by old white men. ;-)

Too many nasty comments to make about this statement and so little time...
Anyway, I can see Uncle Karl quite easily making posters promoting the traditional values of womanhood, kitchen, children, and church (or whatever passes as such in the CS) and writing up a absurd number of edicts that give incentives for large families. Hey, it worked for his idol Adolf Hitler...
:nh: and just like the three 'R's Reading, Riting :D and R-itmatic they'd call it the three 'K's (oh god... :oops: I just thought of how that could be taken so terribly bad. I am so sorry. I shall now self-flagellate self-:thwak:. I shall however finish my thought in the innocent facetious gesture towards the U.S. education system as it was intended. But now I feel so... so dirty) :( any way the 3 'K's of Karl. I must go bathe now :-?


"Kirche, Kueche, Kinder"
Are you actually trying to make me feel better Kalinda? :D Thanks for not bitting me :D You do know I was refering to Kitchen, Khildren and Khurch (:lol: they seem even funnier written down) right.


Yes, I was trying to make you feel better, or at least show others that you're not a complete raving nutcase.(yeah yeah I know, lost cause...) :lol:

Mainly I thought it was a good link that showed the nazi attitude toward women and might be relevant to the thread.
Hey! I'm sane everyone else (who doesn't play RPGs) is crazy :D You know what the sad thing is? I didn't notice it was a link and since I didn't know it was German, I didn't even realize... wow what a coincidence that it just happened to be 3 Ks in German, I just figured it would be the stupidest link to the U.S.'s 3 Rs with Kitchen, Khildren and Khurch (almost sounds like a law firm if pronounced correctly :nh: :D) Gee maybe subconciously I know German (yeah German chocolate, German Cars and German Leaders :thwak: there I save you some time :D)


You probably heard it somewhere and subconsciously recalled it. It's a sad fact that our brains often know more then we do...

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 1:46 am
by Zer0 Kay
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Kalinda wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
psionicninja2000 wrote:
MrNexx wrote:
Ziggy78eog wrote:I highly doubt it see as one of the highest ranking generals in the CS Army is a woman. General Cashbrook I believe.


Bah. She's a token. Everyone knows the REAL work of the Army is done by old white men. ;-)

Too many nasty comments to make about this statement and so little time...
Anyway, I can see Uncle Karl quite easily making posters promoting the traditional values of womanhood, kitchen, children, and church (or whatever passes as such in the CS) and writing up a absurd number of edicts that give incentives for large families. Hey, it worked for his idol Adolf Hitler...
:nh: and just like the three 'R's Reading, Riting :D and R-itmatic they'd call it the three 'K's (oh god... :oops: I just thought of how that could be taken so terribly bad. I am so sorry. I shall now self-flagellate self-:thwak:. I shall however finish my thought in the innocent facetious gesture towards the U.S. education system as it was intended. But now I feel so... so dirty) :( any way the 3 'K's of Karl. I must go bathe now :-?


"Kirche, Kueche, Kinder"
Are you actually trying to make me feel better Kalinda? :D Thanks for not bitting me :D You do know I was refering to Kitchen, Khildren and Khurch (:lol: they seem even funnier written down) right.


Yes, I was trying to make you feel better, or at least show others that you're not a complete raving nutcase.(yeah yeah I know, lost cause...) :lol:

Mainly I thought it was a good link that showed the nazi attitude toward women and might be relevant to the thread.
Hey! I'm sane everyone else (who doesn't play RPGs) is crazy :D You know what the sad thing is? I didn't notice it was a link and since I didn't know it was German, I didn't even realize... wow what a coincidence that it just happened to be 3 Ks in German, I just figured it would be the stupidest link to the U.S.'s 3 Rs with Kitchen, Khildren and Khurch (almost sounds like a law firm if pronounced correctly :nh: :D) Gee maybe subconciously I know German (yeah German chocolate, German Cars and German Leaders :thwak: there I save you some time :D)


You probably heard it somewhere and subconsciously recalled it. It's a sad fact that our brains often know more then we do...
:lol: I know there is one psychology theory that all children are born with all the knowledge in the universe but no way to access it. As they start to learn stuff the neuron pathways are strengthened and essentially become what that person knows. But I've never heard it before. As I said I was just trying to make fun of our education system's 3 Rs (of wich only one begins with an R) by making an equally silly 3 Ks (of wich only one would have a K... otherwise the CS would be one up if it was the 3Cs as there are at least two words that begin with C) I wouldn't consider actually trying to be correct as that wouldn't really be funny... who'd know I'd be correct for once :D (uh... that was a joke :P)

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:02 am
by Pox
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Ziggy78eog wrote:I highly doubt it see as one of the highest ranking generals in the CS Army is a woman. General Cashbrook I believe.
Isn't that sweet so how many of the ruling body are female... you know the people who actually make the laws?


What am I invisible?

I pointed that out two pages ago and gave references of actual writings for this thread but no one seemed to have read it.

I mean I know I am not the most consistant when it comes to actually contributing to a topic but sheesh. :-D

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:15 am
by Zer0 Kay
Pox wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Ziggy78eog wrote:I highly doubt it see as one of the highest ranking generals in the CS Army is a woman. General Cashbrook I believe.
Isn't that sweet so how many of the ruling body are female... you know the people who actually make the laws?


What am I invisible?

I pointed that out two pages ago and gave references of actual writings for this thread but no one seemed to have read it.

I mean I know I am not the most consistant when it comes to actually contributing to a topic but sheesh. :-D


:shock: Who the hell are you and where did you come from!! Dang I didn't see you come up behind me :D I agree with you non-sexist but pragmatic. Survival by production and defense need to find a balance. So how large is the Karl's counsil? and how seriously does he take their suggestions when he doesn't even listen to his wife, who he 'loves'?

Where'd you go now? :D

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:59 am
by Pox
Well in CWC page 36 it says that the Emporer relies on his council of 12 quite a bit when it comes to fields of study that he himself is not as proficient in as he would like to be...he is only human after all. :-D

In matters of war, he goes to his generals and so on...

And as far as Lady Prosek is concerned she might have his heart, but not his ear when it comes to making the right decision for his people.

I personally think the fact that he didn't risk war in order to save her doesn't show him as heartless but illustrating his resolve to protect humanity.

I can't find the parts in the books when it talks about her rescue...I'm so annoyed about that. :frust:

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:12 pm
by Killer Cyborg
In my game, the CS has passed sexism and racism against other humans.
If you're able to carry a gun and fight for them, and you're human, they'll let you sign up with no problem.

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:23 pm
by Kalinda
Killer Cyborg wrote:In my game, the CS has passed sexism and racism against other humans.
If you're able to carry a gun and fight for them, and you're human, they'll let you sign up with no problem.


Racism was not a problem on the Discworld, because -- what with trolls and dwarfs and so on -- speciesism was more interesting. Black and white lived in perfect harmony and ganged up on green.

-- (Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad)

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:54 pm
by Killer Cyborg
Kalinda wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:In my game, the CS has passed sexism and racism against other humans.
If you're able to carry a gun and fight for them, and you're human, they'll let you sign up with no problem.


Racism was not a problem on the Discworld, because -- what with trolls and dwarfs and so on -- speciesism was more interesting. Black and white lived in perfect harmony and ganged up on green.

-- (Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad)


:ok:

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:38 am
by cornholioprime
Kalinda wrote:
Killer Cyborg wrote:In my game, the CS has passed sexism and racism against other humans.
If you're able to carry a gun and fight for them, and you're human, they'll let you sign up with no problem.


Racism was not a problem on the Discworld, because -- what with trolls and dwarfs and so on -- speciesism was more interesting. Black and white lived in perfect harmony and ganged up on green.

-- (Terry Pratchett, Witches Abroad)
:lol:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:27 am
by Nxla666
Not reading any of the other posts all I have to say is; Why would a racist, military dictatorship have any use for mere sexism, I mean really they are the "new" American Empires army and the Good Ol' US Armed Forces have NEVER allowed sexism in their ranks.

(can you feel the sarcasm)

Of course they have sexism, as well as the (slim) probability of a certain amount of human racism still lingering, they are only human after all, complete with all the same foibles and idiosyncracies that make us what we are.

Then again its your game world so if you want them to be as politically correct, regarding humans, as Star Treks Federation then so be it.

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:18 pm
by Zer0 Kay
Tyciol wrote:
jedi078 wrote:If the CS can create dog boys they could possibly create/clone normal humans if not genetically enhanced humans.
Been done. See Psi-X aliens and exceptional human traits for mutated humans under Lone Star.

Similarly everyone, look at the military commander of Lone Star.

There is no sexism in the CS.

I've always viewed it to be a lot like Starship Troopers, except that it's monarchial (as long as the royal family stays strong and in the military) and that mages are seen as siding with the aliens. I bet the men and women bathe together. There's no evidence to the contrary.

Also, on the three letters route in english on those three mentioned subjects...

Baking, Babies, Bibles
Cooking, Children, Church
Dishes, Diapers, Deuteronomy
Kitchen, Kids, Kindness
Noodles, Nooky, Nuns
Oven, Offspring, Omens
Pots, Peewees, Prayer
Stove, Sex, Submission
Tablesetting, Tots, Temple
The other reason I had done the three K's of Karl is because Karls name starts with a... 'K' not that any average Joe Grunt would know that :D

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:19 am
by Mech-Viper Prime
i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:07 am
by Zer0 Kay
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:38 am
by Pox
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.


I just think he was making a social commentary about Clinton's presidency and how people joked that Hillary was the real power in the White House.

am I right MV?

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:40 am
by dark brandon
The Galactus Kid wrote:Racism and sexism are pretty much nonexistant, in my opinion. Any segregation, persecution, or discrimination is focused on and centered around D-bees and magic users.


agreed.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:31 am
by Mech-Viper Prime
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.
before she was kidnapped

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:33 am
by Mech-Viper Prime
Pox wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.


I just think he was making a social commentary about Clinton's presidency and how people joked that Hillary was the real power in the White House.

am I right MV?
maybe , maybe not...... just my continuing rant on how evil is erin tarn bit

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:11 am
by Zer0 Kay
Mech-Viper wrote:
Pox wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.


I just think he was making a social commentary about Clinton's presidency and how people joked that Hillary was the real power in the White House.

am I right MV?
maybe , maybe not...... just my continuing rant on how evil is erin tarn bit


Now your not a flip-flopin like a certain ex-presedential hopeful are ya? :D hey by the way I'm PCSing back home (Anchorage, AK or rather Elmendorf, AK... same thing). To bad I won't be any closer to most of you guys... hey anyone in Anch, AK or Eagle River?)

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:14 am
by Zer0 Kay
Mech-Viper wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.
before she was kidnapped
So your saying anyone who doesn't just like pure-bred humans is just evil? :P

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:16 am
by Mech-Viper Prime
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:
Pox wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.


I just think he was making a social commentary about Clinton's presidency and how people joked that Hillary was the real power in the White House.

am I right MV?
maybe , maybe not...... just my continuing rant on how evil is erin tarn bit


Now your not a flip-flopin like a certain ex-presedential hopeful are ya? :D hey by the way I'm PCSing back home (Anchorage, AK or rather Elmendorf, AK... same thing). To bad I won't be any closer to most of you guys... hey anyone in Anch, AK or Eagle River?)
need to work on getting transferred to maryland.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:17 am
by Mech-Viper Prime
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.
before she was kidnapped
So your saying anyone who doesn't just like pure-bred humans is just evil? :P
not just erin tarn is evil, for some reason i just dont trust her

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:22 am
by Zer0 Kay
Mech-Viper wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:
Pox wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.


I just think he was making a social commentary about Clinton's presidency and how people joked that Hillary was the real power in the White House.

am I right MV?
maybe , maybe not...... just my continuing rant on how evil is erin tarn bit


Now your not a flip-flopin like a certain ex-presedential hopeful are ya? :D hey by the way I'm PCSing back home (Anchorage, AK or rather Elmendorf, AK... same thing). To bad I won't be any closer to most of you guys... hey anyone in Anch, AK or Eagle River?)
need to work on getting transferred to maryland.
Good luck... Don't play with ARCHIE too much :D

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:23 am
by Zer0 Kay
Mech-Viper wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
Mech-Viper wrote:i got the answer why the coalition is so evil, Lady Prosek was the power behind the throne much like hillary was in the 90's until she was kidnapped, its explains soo much

karl and jojo protection of lady prosek, erin tarn hate of the proseks and much more


:shock: so are you saying Lady Prosek is evil? Or it turned evil after she was kidnapped? The later wouldn't make sense though because it was already anti-everything but humans before that and the latter doesn't make sense because it is written that she had other opinions after the cyber-knights rescued her.
before she was kidnapped
So your saying anyone who doesn't just like pure-bred humans is just evil? :P
not just erin tarn is evil, for some reason i just dont trust her
Kind of hard to trust the woman who broke KP's heart :lol: