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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:55 pm
by elecgraystone
MrNexx wrote:
Cain wrote:And hey, just drop me a PM if you need a BWW statted out and for some insane reason none of the boys at PB want to do it. I'LL do it for you.


Jason and I are meeting in College Station next weekend to settle who gets to stat out the BWW.


Knives will be involved. I've voted for Rogaland style discussion, but he doesn't have the stomach for it.
Maybe a good old monkey knife fight? :D

Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:58 pm
by Library Ogre
elecgraystone wrote:
MrNexx wrote:
Cain wrote:And hey, just drop me a PM if you need a BWW statted out and for some insane reason none of the boys at PB want to do it. I'LL do it for you.


Jason and I are meeting in College Station next weekend to settle who gets to stat out the BWW.


Knives will be involved. I've voted for Rogaland style discussion, but he doesn't have the stomach for it.
Maybe a good old monkey knife fight? :D


I'm fighting Jason... so, yeah, I'm getting my shots. ;-)

Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 1:24 pm
by Apollo Okamura
Just thought I'd drop in to let you know I've posted the colour version of the Blind Warrior Woman (from the D-Bees of NA sourcebook) up on my website.

Now to get started on the shower scene! :?

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:46 am
by elecgraystone
sawg138 wrote:
Apollo Okamura wrote:Just thought I'd drop in to let you know I've posted the colour version of the Blind Warrior Woman (from the D-Bees of NA sourcebook) up on my website.

Now to get started on the shower scene! :?

Dude, most awesome. :ok:
I'll second that. :D

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:55 am
by Apollo Okamura
Ack!
It's now almost 5:00am and I have to start my drive soon over to Palladium... there's no way I'm going to be able to finish the shower scene in time for the Open House. :(
Sorry guys...
I will bring (1) preview colour print of how it looks so far to the show, and I'll definitely be finishing it when I return.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:55 am
by Apollo Okamura
A picture of what I what was completed so far, has been posted on my site in the Sketches section.
This will be the same preview pic I'm bringing to the show.

Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:31 am
by Greyaxe
It certainly has potential.

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 10:55 pm
by Dr. Doom III
They are naturally blind. There is nothing to fix.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:34 pm
by Zer0 Kay
Dr. Doom III wrote:They are naturally blind. There is nothing to fix.
OMG an appearance by Doom!!! What you been doing this time around?

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 7:36 pm
by Zer0 Kay
:-? Hey Apollo the sketch seems to make her butt look huge. Shouldn't the connection to the leg be slight furter back? I mean shouldn't the leg be coming out of the lower part of her rear rather than directly under her torso? I suppose that since this will remain somewhat PG there will be no lighting from below? :( BTW what happened to the hair? KS said they weren't bald.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:01 pm
by Apollo Okamura
Hehe, well it IS a rough after all, so there's tons of mistakes! 'Course working on it at 5am doesn't help either :P

There will be lighting below, she will have an actual face, there'll be chains, and her clothes will be ripped, her eye won't be glowing, her body will be less exaggerated, she won't be all blurry, just to name a few things planned for it. :)

As to her hair... It's true they're not created bald. I haven't decided if I'm going to add hair or not. If she's bald in the picture she may still be a slave, or recent splugorth escapee, which might be cool, but then everyone will say, "see they're bald, look at the picture!"
Don't know yet.... I'm sorta' leaning to short hair, mostly for that reason. :-?

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:22 pm
by Dr. Doom III
Zer0 Kay wrote:OMG an appearance by Doom!!! What you been doing this time around?


Getting unbanned on Sound Off.
Getting banned on Sound Off.
Getting unbanned on Sound Off.

The usual. :)

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 8:55 pm
by Zer0 Kay
Dr. Doom III wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:OMG an appearance by Doom!!! What you been doing this time around?


Getting unbanned on Sound Off.
Getting banned on Sound Off.
Getting unbanned on Sound Off.

The usual. :)

So when they bann you from Sound Off they bann you from everything? :( Doom your just too evil.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:00 pm
by Zer0 Kay
duck-foot wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote::-? Hey Apollo the sketch seems to make her butt look huge. Shouldn't the connection to the leg be slight furter back? I mean shouldn't the leg be coming out of the lower part of her rear rather than directly under her torso? I suppose that since this will remain somewhat PG there will be no lighting from below? :( BTW what happened to the hair? KS said they weren't bald.


your complaning about the butt being to large. what... there suppose to be uhmm... sexually exaderated.

i like big butts, and i cannot lie. you brothers cant deny

everyone knew that was coming sooner or later. and its better from me than rat_bastard
... but if it comes from rat_bastard we get to shorten his name... with you foot just doesn't seem like much of an insult, heel though. :P Anyways, a but that sticks out two feet is NOT attractive.

Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:04 pm
by rat_bastard
My Pythoniod don't want none if she aint got buns! :P

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 9:54 pm
by Zer0 Kay
rat_bastard wrote:My Pythoniod don't want none if she aint got buns! :P
Was that supposed to be Pythonoid, bastard?

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:15 am
by rat_bastard
Zer0 Kay wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:My Pythoniod don't want none if she aint got buns! :P
Was that supposed to be Pythonoid, bastard?


Dude, its a intelligent snake race from Spylnn dimensional market. Its a more geeky reference than "my anaconda don't want none".

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 7:09 pm
by Zer0 Kay
sawg138 wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:My Pythoniod don't want none if she aint got buns! :P
Was that supposed to be Pythonoid, bastard?


Dude, its a intelligent snake race from Spylnn dimensional market. Its a more geeky reference than "my anaconda don't want none".

And a good one at that, until Zer0 Kay blew it by needing an explanation.
How is it a good one if he means Pythonoid and can't even spell it? Unless of course the Pythoniod is the mutant snakes prefered MP3 player. "Now, from the race that brought us the first Apple... Python I od with 32MB of MP3 storage and playback capability and a monochrome screen." The peak of golden age tech... just like the hand held mini-computer. :)

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:58 am
by Zer0 Kay
sawg138 wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
sawg138 wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:My Pythoniod don't want none if she aint got buns! :P
Was that supposed to be Pythonoid, bastard?


Dude, its a intelligent snake race from Spylnn dimensional market. Its a more geeky reference than "my anaconda don't want none".

And a good one at that, until Zer0 Kay blew it by needing an explanation.
How is it a good one if he means Pythonoid and can't even spell it? Unless of course the Pythoniod is the mutant snakes prefered MP3 player. "Now, from the race that brought us the first Apple... Python I od with 32MB of MP3 storage and playback capability and a monochrome screen." The peak of golden age tech... just like the hand held mini-computer. :)

We are used to Palladium editing and Chico's posts. Rat's misspell was trivial in comparison.
Eh... good point... but I still want to buy that Python I od for that uber sized 32MB portable drive!! :P You know it is amazing that a rodent without a father can even spell in the first place and second that he can type with little paws.

Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 5:08 am
by Zer0 Kay
sawg138 wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
sawg138 wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
sawg138 wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:
rat_bastard wrote:My Pythoniod don't want none if she aint got buns! :P
Was that supposed to be Pythonoid, bastard?


Dude, its a intelligent snake race from Spylnn dimensional market. Its a more geeky reference than "my anaconda don't want none".

And a good one at that, until Zer0 Kay blew it by needing an explanation.
How is it a good one if he means Pythonoid and can't even spell it? Unless of course the Pythoniod is the mutant snakes preferred MP3 player. "Now, from the race that brought us the first Apple... Python I od with 32MB of MP3 storage and playback capability and a monochrome screen." The peak of golden age tech... just like the hand held mini-computer. :)

We are used to Palladium editing and Chico's posts. Rat's misspell was trivial in comparison.
Eh... good point... but I still want to buy that Python I od for that uber sized 32MB portable drive!! :P You know it is amazing that a rodent without a father can even spell in the first place and second that he can type with little paws.

Better than some humans at that. Our Illegitimate Rodent is a rat of many talents.
Yes, including... HEY WHERE IS MY CHEESE!!! BASTARD RAT!!!! :D

Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 1:15 am
by Zer0 Kay
sawg138 wrote:
Zer0 Kay wrote:Yes, including... HEY WHERE IS MY CHEESE!!! BASTARD RAT!!!! :D

Exactly.
:-( I still want to know where my cheese is though :(

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:42 pm
by Misfit KotLD
Retired Juicer wrote:Logically they cannot have vision.

As they have been biologically crafted to lack sight as a sense, and to instead have they're senses comprised of Radar, super hearing and psionics. It is not that they have eyes that do not work, it is a matter of them not having eye's, optic nerves or (potentially) even an area of the brain that can process information from those kinds of organs. One could postulate that these areas have been given over to the senses that compensate for the "blindness".

Similar to how human beings do not perceive electrical energy as sharks do, we are not built to, we lack most if not everything that would make such a thing possible.

If you subscribe to the above idea, then in order to grant sight to an Altara you would have to modify them with Genetics, Eugenics, Gene-Splicing, Bio-Wizardry or similar.

Something that could reshape, regrow, or attach new areas to the brain.
Interesting interpretation, but I'm wondering what you're basing this on.

*Edit* Atlantis, p51, states "All warrior women are born blind." I read that as having non-functional eyes, rather than having no eyes at all. Although the eyes could be non-functional due to optic nerve or brain alteration. I rule all BWWs have eyes which are covered by a milky white film.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:24 pm
by The Galactus Kid
Retired Juicer wrote:Logically they cannot have vision.

As they have been biologically crafted to lack sight as a sense, and to instead have they're senses comprised of Radar, super hearing and psionics. It is not that they have eyes that do not work, it is a matter of them not having eye's, optic nerves or (potentially) even an area of the brain that can process information from those kinds of organs. One could postulate that these areas have been given over to the senses that compensate for the "blindness".

Similar to how human beings do not perceive electrical energy as sharks do, we are not built to, we lack most if not everything that would make such a thing possible.

If you subscribe to the above idea, then in order to grant sight to an Altara you would have to modify them with Genetics, Eugenics, Gene-Splicing, Bio-Wizardry or similar.

Something that could reshape, regrow, or attach new areas to the brain.


I like this answer.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:43 pm
by Misfit KotLD
Retired Juicer wrote:Was just a jump in logic, "Born Blind" is actually pretty subjective.

If I recall correctly, haven't reviewed the books lately...

In Atlantis, Warrior Women are described as being foreign creatures to the point that even the Splugorth have trouble comprehending they're biology.

In D-bees of NA, they are ret-conned as being custom made warrior minions, MADE by the Splugorth.

If the above discrepancy does exist, then I was going with the newer background and with it the following line of logic:

We made them to have spatial awareness out to 400' without the use of eyes, the organs are now extraneous. Lets get rid of them.

And that sir, is what I'm basing my interpretation on :)
No, the Splugorth haven't gotten their cloning process fully figured out. Though the cloning process can be initiated in a laboratory (anyone want to picture a Splugorth lab?), but not duplicated. The rest is pretty easy. "All warrior women are born blind, but are otherwise anatomically complete and healthy." and "Symbiotic, cybernetic, magic and even genetic modifications or additions are not passed on to the clone."

The wording is vague and they could have everything but visual organs, but since they seem to be compared to humans (mention of "there are no blind warrior men and the women are sterile") makes me think the women have non-functional vision organs.

But this is Rifts and logic need not (and usually doesn't) apply.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:43 pm
by Lenwen
elecgraystone wrote:I've been wondering about this for a while and thought this would be as good a time as any to ask.
Can a altara have her blindness fixed?
I know they are born blind, but could these things fix that.
Bio-wizard eyes.
Cybernetic eyes.
optic nerve video implant.
(Knowing the splugorth experiment on them, i'm sure all of these have been tried)

And if their blindness could be fixed, how would if affect their abilities?

Yes thier Blindness can be fixed. There is nuthing anywhere canonly speaking that would hint at them not being able to use Cybernetic Eyes, or even Bio-Wizard eyes.

Hope this helps.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:24 pm
by Misfit KotLD
Their enhanced senses are at least partially psychic in nature rather than the product of exotic organs, unless that's how you explain psionics.

As for anatomically correct, obviously they are anatomically correct for them. But the write up is implying a comparison to humans, even if poorly. Still, YMMV.

And so long as Palladium's very own Hentai warrior women are in use, something is right in the world.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:37 pm
by Misfit KotLD
Retired Juicer wrote:I redact some if not most of my previous statements:

After having some time to peruse the new entry for Altara Blind Warrior Women in D-bees of NA, I have discovered the following:

Spoiler alert! They began life as TRUE ATLANTEANS! After years of Genetic tweaking (now officially inflicted on them by the Splugorth) they are functionally human females who are blind, have crazy powers and live for something like 90 years instead of thousands. Weather or not True-Atlanteans even know that the Altara began life as Atlanteans is anybodies guess.

See the line in their descriptive text that reads: Often wear a headdress/helmet to disguise they're Atlantean roots.

We're not talking hair plugs or blindness here people, that single line is pretty clear.

Another interesting thing that changed between the entry presented in Atlantis and the entry in D-bees is that instead of 25% of all warrior women being not content with their lives as slaves (and possibly just mad enough to do something about it) that number is now a much more reasonable sounding 2%.

Frickin' hilarious.
Cheesy.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:38 pm
by Khanibal
Retired Juicer wrote:Spoiler alert! They began life as TRUE ATLANTEANS! After years of Genetic tweaking (now officially inflicted on them by the Splugorth) they are functionally human females who are blind, have crazy powers and live for something like 90 years instead of thousands. Weather or not True-Atlanteans even know that the Altara began life as Atlanteans is anybodies guess.


No, we didn't know, I'll bring it up at the next interdimensional picnic and family reunion.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:43 pm
by Shark_Force
atlantean also applies to the people/beings/entities/whatevers who are currently living in atlantis. as such, the blind warrior women are atlanteans. so are the splugorth slavers. so are the kydians, and the kittani. or at least, the ones that are living in atlantis at present. which are the ones that description was likely dealing with when it was written.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:45 pm
by Khanibal
Shark_Force wrote:atlantean also applies to the people/beings/entities/whatevers who are currently living in atlantis. as such, the blind warrior women are atlanteans. so are the splugorth slavers. so are the kydians, and the kittani. or at least, the ones that are living in atlantis at present. which are the ones that description was likely dealing with when it was written.


Kind of like being American even though your ancestors were mostly German with a smattering of French and Irish.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:47 pm
by Misfit KotLD
Shark_Force wrote:atlantean also applies to the people/beings/entities/whatevers who are currently living in atlantis. as such, the blind warrior women are atlanteans. so are the splugorth slavers. so are the kydians, and the kittani. or at least, the ones that are living in atlantis at present. which are the ones that description was likely dealing with when it was written.
Moot point if the entry uses the words, "True Atlantean," which specifically signifies the original inhabitants who produce Undead Slayers.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:59 pm
by elecgraystone
Misfit KotLD wrote:Moot point if the entry uses the words, "True Atlantean," which specifically signifies the original inhabitants who produce Undead Slayers.
It doesn't. D-bee's of NA says they are a 'human or human-like race' taken over by the splugorth. The helmet quote was indeed meant as the generic 'Atlantean'.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:29 pm
by Misfit KotLD
elecgraystone wrote:
Misfit KotLD wrote:Moot point if the entry uses the words, "True Atlantean," which specifically signifies the original inhabitants who produce Undead Slayers.
It doesn't. D-bee's of NA says they are a 'human or human-like race' taken over by the splugorth. The helmet quote was indeed meant as the generic 'Atlantean'.
That makes all the difference.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:04 am
by Khanibal
Retired Juicer wrote:I mean, I like StarTrek as much as the next guy, but I don't like meeting a new D-bee every gaming session, that is obviously a man in a rubber suit, or simply has a fake third nipple made of chewing gum.


I think if the BWW had a third nipple of any substance the cover art on the old RIFTS core book would have made it obvoius.
:D

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:31 pm
by Shark_Force
Khanibal wrote:
Retired Juicer wrote:I mean, I like StarTrek as much as the next guy, but I don't like meeting a new D-bee every gaming session, that is obviously a man in a rubber suit, or simply has a fake third nipple made of chewing gum.


I think if the BWW had a third nipple of any substance the cover art on the old RIFTS core book would have made it obvoius.
:D

no, no, you've got it all wrong... it's plain to see that the BWW fall under the "[wo]man in a rubber suit" category.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:36 pm
by Khanibal
Male characters are -1D4 to iniative, and -3 to save vs psionics, HOWEVER, anyone attempting to probe his mind takes 2D4 temporary M.E. damage.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:18 am
by Kalidor
Everytime someone says "BWW" I keep reading that as "BBW" and I tell you, the mental image it produces doesn't make that rubber skin suit nearly as flattering as they are in the artwork.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:38 pm
by Misfit KotLD
Kalidor wrote:Everytime someone says "BWW" I keep reading that as "BBW" and I tell you, the mental image it produces doesn't make that rubber skin suit nearly as flattering as they are in the artwork.
Perhaps you should get off the Craig's List personals. :P

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:43 am
by drewkitty ~..~
The way I have the BWW, is that they are a constructed race. But it's not the Splugei that did so. That the Splugorth found a planet that the locals had constructed the BWW as a defense against invaders. The S killed off the locals and took the BWW to be their own 'product'.
I've posted the specifics around here somewhere.

Re: blind warrior women

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:20 am
by Apollo Okamura
Eight years later... Finally drew this thing!