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Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:43 pm
by taalismn
Alpha 11 wrote:[

:lol: :lol: If that really happen to someone, I don't think they would live very long, would they?


You can live with one kidney, and depending on how much intestine has to be removed, you can live with sections taken out(as long as the remaining ports are carefully connected and re-sectioned). It depends what ELSE is removed, and the post-op recovery conditions(hence, the references to the lurid urban myth tales of travelers waking up after being slipped a mickey to find they've had a kidney removed, victims of the black market organ transplant trade). It's not something you want to do outside a well-equipped and professionally-staffed hospital with good post-op care, though.

Not that Doctor Smith particularly cares. He's had a Doctor Destry Nova moment here doing something that will give any gods of karmic balance screaming fits....On one hand, he's done something GOOD by saving a life, but by doing something BAD by stealing somebody else's internal organs, but the donor was a little monster, and the recipient is a covetous, manipulative B****, but the little monster was a product of her brother's manipulations, and the manipulator was seeking revenge for her mind-rape, forced role in the betrayal of her comrades, and sought redemption, but we're talking Doctor Smith here...
You can just sense Blind Justice using her scales to measure a dose of opiates to deal with THIS headache...

Actually, in this scenario, given Embryo's dotty fixation on royal opulence and the way he's been breeding the mana-users for several hundred years, I wouldn't be surprised if there has been enough inter-kingdom/dynastic marriages and gene-swapping that Sylvia might not be a good organ match for ex-Princess Alektra/Jill.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:47 pm
by SRoss
Alpha 11 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Meanwhile:
Sylvia Ikaruga Misurugi wakes up in a bathroom somewhere in the Imperial Palace and is shocked to find herself in a bathtub filled with ice water, thick bandages around her midsection.
"UUUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!"


:lol: :lol: If that really happen to someone, I don't think they would live very long, would they?


I've heard of it happening before, but usually they just take a single organ...

That being said we don't know if Doctor Smith just took Sylvia's kidney, spleen and an intestinal graft ... or if he replaced them... :erm:

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:52 pm
by SRoss
taalismn wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:[

:lol: :lol: If that really happen to someone, I don't think they would live very long, would they?


You can live with one kidney, and depending on how much intestine has to be removed, you can live with sections taken out(as long as the remaining ports are carefully connected and re-sectioned). It depends what ELSE is removed, and the post-op recovery conditions(hence, the references to the lurid urban myth tales of travelers waking up after being slipped a mickey to find they've had a kidney removed, victims of the black market organ transplant trade). It's not something you want to do outside a well-equipped and professionally-staffed hospital with good post-op care, though.

Not that Doctor Smith particularly cares. He's had a Doctor Destry Nova moment here doing something that will give any gods of karmic balance screaming fits....On one hand, he's done something GOOD by saving a life, but by doing something BAD by stealing somebody else's internal organs, but the donor was a little monster, and the recipient is a covetous, manipulative B****, but the little monster was a product of her brother's manipulations, and the manipulator was seeking revenge for her mind-rape, forced role in the betrayal of her comrades, and sought redemption, but we're talking Doctor Smith here...
You can just sense Blind Justice using her scales to measure a dose of opiates to deal with THIS headache...

Actually, in this scenario, given Embryo's dotty fixation on royal opulence and the way he's been breeding the mana-users for several hundred years, I wouldn't be surprised if there has been enough inter-kingdom/dynastic marriages and gene-swapping that Sylvia might not be a good organ match for ex-Princess Alektra/Jill.



That's fine for the kidney and intestine, but I think Sylvia would kinda miss having a spleen, its kinda important and doesn't come in pairs.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:11 pm
by taalismn
SRoss wrote:[
That's fine for the kidney and intestine, but I think Sylvia would kinda miss having a spleen, its kinda important and doesn't come in pairs.


It's not entirely clear exactly how badly injured Jill is, just that she was lasered through the lower abdomen and that it's quite serious.
The cry 'MY SPLEEN!' is more a dark comic cry, since 'spleen' is just such a funny word. Like 'MY HYPOTHALAMUS!!!!"
I'm half-expecting the final episode to have Jill a paraplegic...

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:09 am
by Alpha 11
taalismn wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:[

:lol: :lol: If that really happen to someone, I don't think they would live very long, would they?


You can live with one kidney, and depending on how much intestine has to be removed, you can live with sections taken out(as long as the remaining ports are carefully connected and re-sectioned). It depends what ELSE is removed, and the post-op recovery conditions(hence, the references to the lurid urban myth tales of travelers waking up after being slipped a mickey to find they've had a kidney removed, victims of the black market organ transplant trade). It's not something you want to do outside a well-equipped and professionally-staffed hospital with good post-op care, though.

Not that Doctor Smith particularly cares. He's had a Doctor Destry Nova moment here doing something that will give any gods of karmic balance screaming fits....On one hand, he's done something GOOD by saving a life, but by doing something BAD by stealing somebody else's internal organs, but the donor was a little monster, and the recipient is a covetous, manipulative B****, but the little monster was a product of her brother's manipulations, and the manipulator was seeking revenge for her mind-rape, forced role in the betrayal of her comrades, and sought redemption, but we're talking Doctor Smith here...
You can just sense Blind Justice using her scales to measure a dose of opiates to deal with THIS headache...

Actually, in this scenario, given Embryo's dotty fixation on royal opulence and the way he's been breeding the mana-users for several hundred years, I wouldn't be surprised if there has been enough inter-kingdom/dynastic marriages and gene-swapping that Sylvia might not be a good organ match for ex-Princess Alektra/Jill.


Thanks for the info!

SRoss wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Meanwhile:
Sylvia Ikaruga Misurugi wakes up in a bathroom somewhere in the Imperial Palace and is shocked to find herself in a bathtub filled with ice water, thick bandages around her midsection.
"UUUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!"


:lol: :lol: If that really happen to someone, I don't think they would live very long, would they?


I've heard of it happening before, but usually they just take a single organ...

That being said we don't know if Doctor Smith just took Sylvia's kidney, spleen and an intestinal graft ... or if he replaced them... :erm:


:lol: :eek:

SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:[

:lol: :lol: If that really happen to someone, I don't think they would live very long, would they?


You can live with one kidney, and depending on how much intestine has to be removed, you can live with sections taken out(as long as the remaining ports are carefully connected and re-sectioned). It depends what ELSE is removed, and the post-op recovery conditions(hence, the references to the lurid urban myth tales of travelers waking up after being slipped a mickey to find they've had a kidney removed, victims of the black market organ transplant trade). It's not something you want to do outside a well-equipped and professionally-staffed hospital with good post-op care, though.

Not that Doctor Smith particularly cares. He's had a Doctor Destry Nova moment here doing something that will give any gods of karmic balance screaming fits....On one hand, he's done something GOOD by saving a life, but by doing something BAD by stealing somebody else's internal organs, but the donor was a little monster, and the recipient is a covetous, manipulative B****, but the little monster was a product of her brother's manipulations, and the manipulator was seeking revenge for her mind-rape, forced role in the betrayal of her comrades, and sought redemption, but we're talking Doctor Smith here...
You can just sense Blind Justice using her scales to measure a dose of opiates to deal with THIS headache...

Actually, in this scenario, given Embryo's dotty fixation on royal opulence and the way he's been breeding the mana-users for several hundred years, I wouldn't be surprised if there has been enough inter-kingdom/dynastic marriages and gene-swapping that Sylvia might not be a good organ match for ex-Princess Alektra/Jill.



That's fine for the kidney and intestine, but I think Sylvia would kinda miss having a spleen, its kinda important and doesn't come in pairs.


True.

taalismn wrote:
SRoss wrote:[
That's fine for the kidney and intestine, but I think Sylvia would kinda miss having a spleen, its kinda important and doesn't come in pairs.


It's not entirely clear exactly how badly injured Jill is, just that she was lasered through the lower abdomen and that it's quite serious.
The cry 'MY SPLEEN!' is more a dark comic cry, since 'spleen' is just such a funny word. Like 'MY HYPOTHALAMUS!!!!"
I'm half-expecting the final episode to have Jill a paraplegic...


:lol: I hope not.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 1:06 pm
by taalismn
"Let's just load the Hysteria with Windows."
Embryo: "NNNOOOOOOO!!!"
*BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH*

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2015 11:42 pm
by Alpha 11
taalismn wrote:"Let's just load the Hysteria with Windows."
Embryo: "NNNOOOOOOO!!!"
*BLUE SCREEN OF DEATH*


:lol:

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:05 pm
by taalismn
Alpha 11 wrote:[
:lol: I hope not.



Either that of she drags herself up to do a last-moment kamikaze on Embryo, thus negating the MASSIVE deathflags that have been flying for Vivian and Tusk...either that, of Salia will backstab him with her Magic Girl wand...
"Did she just...?"
"Yeah, she did..."
"...that's gotte be a new humiliating way to go, shortcircuited with a battery-powered henshin stick..."

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:02 pm
by SRoss
Tune in next week, when we learn...

"So let me get this straight ... Embryo used to be the head scientist at IceGuard!?!"

"Well yeah, where do you think all the ice based weapons came from?"

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 10:02 am
by taalismn
SRoss wrote:Tune in next week, when we learn...

"So let me get this straight ... Embryo used to be the head scientist at IceGuard!?!"

"Well yeah, where do you think all the ice based weapons came from?"


Jill: "Ice Guard. It's a terrible place."

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:54 pm
by Alpha 11
taalismn wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:[
:lol: I hope not.



Either that of she drags herself up to do a last-moment kamikaze on Embryo, thus negating the MASSIVE deathflags that have been flying for Vivian and Tusk...either that, of Salia will backstab him with her Magic Girl wand...
"Did she just...?"
"Yeah, she did..."
"...that's gotte be a new humiliating way to go, shortcircuited with a battery-powered henshin stick..."


:lol: :lol:

SRoss wrote:Tune in next week, when we learn...

"So let me get this straight ... Embryo used to be the head scientist at IceGuard!?!"

"Well yeah, where do you think all the ice based weapons came from?"


:shock: :eek:

taalismn wrote:
SRoss wrote:Tune in next week, when we learn...

"So let me get this straight ... Embryo used to be the head scientist at IceGuard!?!"

"Well yeah, where do you think all the ice based weapons came from?"


Jill: "Ice Guard. It's a terrible place."


:lol:

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 1:45 pm
by taalismn
Summery of the last episode of Cross Ange:
Jill: "...and so, I die."
Ange: "Oh great, THIS again!"
Embryo: "Now let's see how many moles on your inner thigh!"
Ange: "I need a hero!"
Tusk: "Back to this gag, again, I see."
Hilda: "SAVE THE SEX FOR LATER, YOU KIDS!"
Chris: "I'll come back for a full pardon of the whole "I'll kill everybody' thing."
Salia: "Let's just kill this guy, okay?"
Embryo: "NOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU MEDDLING KIIDDDSSSS!!!"
Sala: "Ah, peace again. Enjoy being our pets neighbors, Normas."
Ange: "Here, put this on, Tusk. Table five wants service!"
Sylvia: "I've got a gun, I'm a post-apocalyptic heroine!"

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:08 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:Summery of the last episode of Cross Ange:
Jill: "...and so, I die."
Ange: "Oh great, THIS again!"
Embryo: "Now let's see how many moles on your inner thigh!"
Ange: "I need a hero!"
Tusk: "Back to this gag, again, I see."
Hilda: "SAVE THE SEX FOR LATER, YOU KIDS!"
Chris: "I'll come back for a full pardon of the whole "I'll kill everybody thing'."
Salia: "Let's just kill this guy, okay?"
Embryo: "NOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU MEDDLING KIIDDDSSSS!!!"
Sala: "Ah, peace again. Enjoy being our pets neighbors, Normas."
Ange: "Here, put this on, Tusk. Table five wants service!"
Sylvia: "I've got a gun, I'm a post-apocalyptic heroine!"


Ice Guard Tooper: " Damn rookies. "

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:13 pm
by taalismn
Kargan3033 wrote:[
Ice Guard Tooper: " Damn rookies. "


Sylvia: "I''VE GOT A GUN! I'M NOT AFRAID ANY MORE OF STUPID POLAR BEARS!"
Ice Guard Trooper: "You're going to need a bigger gun than that."
Ice Guard Trooper 2: "Groove Shark shrak."

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:23 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
Ice Guard Tooper: " Damn rookies. "


Sylvia: "I''VE GOT A GUN! I'M NOT AFRAID ANY MORE OF STUPID POLAR BEARS!"
Ice Guard Trooper: "You're going to need a bigger gun than that."
Ice Guard Trooper 2: "Groove Shark shrak."


And carved on Sylyvia's headstone is the inscription " She thought she had enough firepower. "

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:29 pm
by taalismn
Kargan3033 wrote:[

And carved on Sylyvia's headstone is the inscription " She thought she had enough firepower. "



Irony, is, it took out her legs first....

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:32 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

And carved on Sylyvia's headstone is the inscription " She thought she had enough firepower. "



Irony, is, it took out her legs first....



That's because they consider the legs and thighs to be the *Meaty* parts of human beings.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:40 pm
by taalismn
[quote="Kargan3033

That's because they consider the legs and thighs to be the *Meaty* parts of human beings.[/quote]


Plus hitting there first effectively immobilizes the rest of the prey for leisurely gnawing on. Sylvia's misfortune was that her legs were still soft and tender from hovering around all that time.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:43 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:[quote="Kargan3033

That's because they consider the legs and thighs to be the *Meaty* parts of human beings.



Plus hitting there first effectively immobilizes the rest of the prey for leisurely gnawing on. Sylvia's misfortune was that her legs were still soft and tender from hovering around all that time.[/quote]

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:57 pm
by taalismn
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:09 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.



Yep that is true and as for the Norcas they have a pack/hive mind deal happining which makes then some of the most fear predators in the Big Cold and with their inttelligence they are a major threat to life and limbs because of not only their highly cordnated attack and intelligance but also to their their savage blood lust and ravnous hunger.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:25 pm
by taalismn
The Invid deny all responsibility for, or knowledge of, the norca pack-mind. In fact, they're just plain AFRAID of them.
As for the EBSIS-Remanent experiments in fitting LASERS to Groove Sharks...well somebody neglected to view 'Deep Blue Sea' as part of the mandatory security training....

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:37 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:The Invid deny all responsibility for, or knowledge of, the norca pack-mind. In fact, they're just plain AFRAID of them.
As for the EBSIS-Remanent experiments in fitting LASERS to Groove Sharks...well somebody neglected to view 'Deep Blue Sea' as part of the mandatory security training....


I had always wondered what the Invid would think of the *wild life* in the Big Dark Cold.

As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:48 pm
by taalismn
Kargan3033 wrote:[
As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.



Comes in on my 'Dumbass Scientist Awards' list of movies, as in ''Why this is a really bad idea'.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:48 pm
by glitterboy2098
they may have lost Deep blue Sea and Jaws.. but evidently they did save a copy of the Austin Powers Series..

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:50 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.



Comes in on my 'Dumbass Scientist Awards' list of movies, as in ''Why this is a really bad idea'.



Really, what's the web addy?

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:52 pm
by Kargan3033
glitterboy2098 wrote:they may have lost Deep blue Sea and Jaws.. but evidently they did save a copy of the Austin Powers Series..


That's because AP is like a roach, you can nuke the world and there will still be some roachs left over.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:58 pm
by taalismn
Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.



Comes in on my 'Dumbass Scientist Awards' list of movies, as in ''Why this is a really bad idea'.



Really, what's the web addy?



Don't have a posted list, although there are likely some versions of 'Things Not to Do If I am ever a Mad Scientist' lists floating around the internet.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:01 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.



Comes in on my 'Dumbass Scientist Awards' list of movies, as in ''Why this is a really bad idea'.



Really, what's the web addy?



Don't have a posted list, although there are likely some versions of 'Things Not to Do If I am ever a Mad Scientist' lists floating around the internet.


Ahh ok then, pity really given your gift for humor I'm sure you would make a funny send up of such movies as Deep Blue Sea.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:19 pm
by taalismn
[quote="Kargan3033"][

Here's one I found with a few moments' goggling:
http://io9.com/11-mad-scientist-no-no-s-493145976

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:36 pm
by guardiandashi
Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.



Yep that is true and as for the Norcas they have a pack/hive mind deal happining which makes then some of the most fear predators in the Big Cold and with their inttelligence they are a major threat to life and limbs because of not only their highly cordnated attack and intelligance but also to their their savage blood lust and ravnous hunger.


After a couple encounters with Megarea they also check to see if their "targets" may be giant cats or wolves, if they are they abruptly decide to be somewhere else... Anywhere else.

(hive minds suck when you bite down on a robot animal, and break a couple teeth right before the anti armor mines detonate and blow your head off. ) The reason hive minds suck so bad in that instance is the rest of them get to actively REMEMBER what that experience feels like..

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:38 pm
by Kargan3033
guardiandashi wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.



Yep that is true and as for the Norcas they have a pack/hive mind deal happining which makes then some of the most fear predators in the Big Cold and with their inttelligence they are a major threat to life and limbs because of not only their highly cordnated attack and intelligance but also to their their savage blood lust and ravnous hunger.


After a couple encounters with Megarea they also check to see if their "targets" may be giant cats or wolves, if they are they abruptly decide to be somewhere else... Anywhere else.

(hive minds suck when you bite down on a robot animal, and break a couple teeth right before the anti armor mines detonate and blow your head off. ) The reason hive minds suck so bad in that instance is the rest of them get to actively REMEMBER what that experience feels like..


Good point and once the rest of the hive mind recovers from the expernce they are not going to be a bunch of happy campers to say the lest.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:38 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Here's one I found with a few moments' goggling:
http://io9.com/11-mad-scientist-no-no-s-493145976


Thanks.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:12 pm
by taalismn
"You do realize that unless male DRAGONs can mate with Norma...the latter are going to die out in roughly one generation?"
"Well, either Aura can transform norma into DRAGONS or they start dimensionally raiding for men...."
"Either of which is very scary."
"...we can always route a shipload of Zentraedi to the Earth..."
"Even scarier..."

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:17 pm
by SRoss
Embryo: "How did you all get here..."

SRoss: "Psssh! Most of us have read Crisis on Infinite Earths."

Later as everyone is standing around Embryo's corpse.

Alpha 11: "Tune in next week folks for Mad Sylvia: Beyond the Inviddome" 8)

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:21 pm
by SRoss
taalismn wrote:"You do realize that unless male DRAGONs can mate with Norma...the latter are going to die out in roughly one generation?"
"Well, either Aura can transform norma into DRAGONS or they start dimensionally raiding for men...."
"Either of which is very scary."
"...we can always route a shipload of Zentraedi to the Earth..."
"Even scarier..."


"What about Karno?"

"Way too scary to contemplate."

"Kyle, Wolf, Dixon!?!"

"Even Norma have SOME standards..."

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 8:40 pm
by taalismn
Ben's not all that bad, and his body is conveniently missing...
Come to think of it, there's an entire CITY that's conveniently missing...
Using the 'Millennium' caper, where you use disasters to collect people who were otherwise going to DIE, in order to use them as a genetic hedge against species extinction, it would be a good bet to snatch those folks who were supposed to be VAPORIZED, and transplant them where you need them. Toss in a few (disarmed) Zentraedi if you want to add extra exotic to the mix. Put them on the far side of the Earth, and that gives them some breathing room and calm-down time before the dragons start showing up and freaking them out.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:03 pm
by SRoss
taalismn wrote:Ben's not all that bad, and his body is conveniently missing...
Come to think of it, there's an entire CITY that's conveniently missing...
Using the 'Millennium' caper, where you use disasters to collect people who were otherwise going to DIE, in order to use them as a genetic hedge against species extinction, it would be a good bet to snatch those folks who were supposed to be VAPORIZED, and transplant them where you need them. Toss in a few (disarmed) Zentraedi if you want to add extra exotic to the mix. Put them on the far side of the Earth, and that gives them some breathing room and calm-down time before the dragons start showing up and freaking them out.


Corg: (Waking up naked, strapped to a table) "Agg! No! Wasn't Annie enough." :eek:

Maggy: "Who do you think sent you to us?" :twisted:

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:20 pm
by taalismn
Corg's only good for two things: Fertilizer and Calories(the latter if you don't mind meat that talks back).

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:21 pm
by Kargan3033
taalismn wrote:Corg's only good for two things: Fertilizer and Calories(the latter if you don't mind meat that talks back).


And a strange after taste.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:18 pm
by SRoss
Come to think of it, where do dragon children come from? I mean even in dragon form, there's a huge size difference.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:06 pm
by taalismn
SRoss wrote:Come to think of it, where do dragon children come from? I mean even in dragon form, there's a huge size difference.


And is it live birth or egg?
In fact, Aura's exact gender is never made clear either. Maybe s/he's hermaphroditic.
There's a closing shot that apparently shows Vivian's father(massive, draconic form), but apparently the absence of any human males or even male children in the settlement suggests reproduction is done in dragon form.
For that matter, we don't see any smaller male dragons...either they're identical to the females when younger or they're cloistered away in the country after they're born/hatched , being taught the business of munching draconium pollutants by their fathers. Or maybe they're very small until they get their first gutfull of draconium residue and they balloon up into the big adult size.
There's also the matter of whether the dragon-humans have mating-at-will, or a seasonal heat period...Sala's remarks when she barges in on Ange and Tusk on the verge of inflagro delicti could be interpreted as either that dragons have sex for fun too, or, she's simply well-versed in the pre-Split human culture she's studied up on.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2015 11:49 pm
by Alpha 11
taalismn wrote:Summery of the last episode of Cross Ange:
Jill: "...and so, I die."
Ange: "Oh great, THIS again!"
Embryo: "Now let's see how many moles on your inner thigh!"
Ange: "I need a hero!"
Tusk: "Back to this gag, again, I see."
Hilda: "SAVE THE SEX FOR LATER, YOU KIDS!"
Chris: "I'll come back for a full pardon of the whole "I'll kill everybody' thing."
Salia: "Let's just kill this guy, okay?"
Embryo: "NOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU MEDDLING KIIDDDSSSS!!!"
Sala: "Ah, peace again. Enjoy being our pets neighbors, Normas."
Ange: "Here, put this on, Tusk. Table five wants service!"
Sylvia: "I've got a gun, I'm a post-apocalyptic heroine!"


:lol: :lol: It was a nice ending.

Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Summery of the last episode of Cross Ange:
Jill: "...and so, I die."
Ange: "Oh great, THIS again!"
Embryo: "Now let's see how many moles on your inner thigh!"
Ange: "I need a hero!"
Tusk: "Back to this gag, again, I see."
Hilda: "SAVE THE SEX FOR LATER, YOU KIDS!"
Chris: "I'll come back for a full pardon of the whole "I'll kill everybody thing'."
Salia: "Let's just kill this guy, okay?"
Embryo: "NOOOOOOOOOO!! YOU MEDDLING KIIDDDSSSS!!!"
Sala: "Ah, peace again. Enjoy being our pets neighbors, Normas."
Ange: "Here, put this on, Tusk. Table five wants service!"
Sylvia: "I've got a gun, I'm a post-apocalyptic heroine!"


Ice Guard Tooper: " Damn rookies. "


:lol:

taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
Ice Guard Tooper: " Damn rookies. "


Sylvia: "I''VE GOT A GUN! I'M NOT AFRAID ANY MORE OF STUPID POLAR BEARS!"
Ice Guard Trooper: "You're going to need a bigger gun than that."
Ice Guard Trooper 2: "Groove Shark shrak."


:lol:

Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
Ice Guard Tooper: " Damn rookies. "


Sylvia: "I''VE GOT A GUN! I'M NOT AFRAID ANY MORE OF STUPID POLAR BEARS!"
Ice Guard Trooper: "You're going to need a bigger gun than that."
Ice Guard Trooper 2: "Groove Shark shrak."


And carved on Sylyvia's headstone is the inscription " She thought she had enough firepower. "


:lol: :( Wish she hadn't died.

taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

And carved on Sylyvia's headstone is the inscription " She thought she had enough firepower. "



Irony, is, it took out her legs first....


Isn't that because of blood loss?

Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

And carved on Sylyvia's headstone is the inscription " She thought she had enough firepower. "



Irony, is, it took out her legs first....



That's because they consider the legs and thighs to be the *Meaty* parts of human beings.


:lol: That's usally were most meat is on most creatures.

taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033

That's because they consider the legs and thighs to be the *Meaty* parts of human beings.



Plus hitting there first effectively immobilizes the rest of the prey for leisurely gnawing on. Sylvia's misfortune was that her legs were still soft and tender from hovering around all that time.[/quote]

:lol: True.

[quote="Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033

That's because they consider the legs and thighs to be the *Meaty* parts of human beings.



Plus hitting there first effectively immobilizes the rest of the prey for leisurely gnawing on. Sylvia's misfortune was that her legs were still soft and tender from hovering around all that time.


Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.[/quote]

:shock: :eek:

[quote="taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.


:shock: :eek:

Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.



Yep that is true and as for the Norcas they have a pack/hive mind deal happining which makes then some of the most fear predators in the Big Cold and with their inttelligence they are a major threat to life and limbs because of not only their highly cordnated attack and intelligance but also to their their savage blood lust and ravnous hunger.


:eek: :shock:

taalismn wrote:The Invid deny all responsibility for, or knowledge of, the norca pack-mind. In fact, they're just plain AFRAID of them.
As for the EBSIS-Remanent experiments in fitting LASERS to Groove Sharks...well somebody neglected to view 'Deep Blue Sea' as part of the mandatory security training....


:lol:

Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:The Invid deny all responsibility for, or knowledge of, the norca pack-mind. In fact, they're just plain AFRAID of them.
As for the EBSIS-Remanent experiments in fitting LASERS to Groove Sharks...well somebody neglected to view 'Deep Blue Sea' as part of the mandatory security training....


I had always wondered what the Invid would think of the *wild life* in the Big Dark Cold.

As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.


"But it seemed such a good ideal at the time!"

taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[
As for the EBSIS I don't think they were aware of the flick Deep Blue Sea because most of the entertainment in the world went up in smoke juring The Rain and even if they did mange to find and view a copy of that flick they felt the reward was well worth the risk at the time, BTW I never saw the flick myself.



Comes in on my 'Dumbass Scientist Awards' list of movies, as in ''Why this is a really bad idea'.


:lol: :lol:

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:04 am
by Alpha 11
glitterboy2098 wrote:they may have lost Deep blue Sea and Jaws.. but evidently they did save a copy of the Austin Powers Series..


:lol: :shock: :eek: Oh, please, no! Sorry, just can't stand those movies.

Kargan3033 wrote:
glitterboy2098 wrote:they may have lost Deep blue Sea and Jaws.. but evidently they did save a copy of the Austin Powers Series..


That's because AP is like a roach, you can nuke the world and there will still be some roachs left over.


:lol: True.

taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Here's one I found with a few moments' goggling:
http://io9.com/11-mad-scientist-no-no-s-493145976




:lol:

guardiandashi wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Which is why Groove Sharks are considered to be an Apex Predator because they are smart enough to immoblize their pray and given the fact 99.99% of Groove Shark victims are ususaly dead before they knew what hit them.


Unless you're in a party of people. Then you get to see them, if you're unlucky, getting picked off one by one.
Norcas, on the other hand, TIME their attacks.



Yep that is true and as for the Norcas they have a pack/hive mind deal happining which makes then some of the most fear predators in the Big Cold and with their inttelligence they are a major threat to life and limbs because of not only their highly cordnated attack and intelligance but also to their their savage blood lust and ravnous hunger.


After a couple encounters with Megarea they also check to see if their "targets" may be giant cats or wolves, if they are they abruptly decide to be somewhere else... Anywhere else.

(hive minds suck when you bite down on a robot animal, and break a couple teeth right before the anti armor mines detonate and blow your head off. ) The reason hive minds suck so bad in that instance is the rest of them get to actively REMEMBER what that experience feels like..


:lol: :lol:

Kargan3033 wrote:Good point and once the rest of the hive mind recovers from the expernce they are not going to be a bunch of happy campers to say the lest.


:lol:

taalismn wrote:"You do realize that unless male DRAGONs can mate with Norma...the latter are going to die out in roughly one generation?"
"Well, either Aura can transform norma into DRAGONS or they start dimensionally raiding for men...."
"Either of which is very scary."
"...we can always route a shipload of Zentraedi to the Earth..."
"Even scarier..."


:lol:

SRoss wrote:Embryo: "How did you all get here..."

SRoss: "Psssh! Most of us have read Crisis on Infinite Earths."

Later as everyone is standing around Embryo's corpse.

Alpha 11: "Tune in next week folks for Mad Sylvia: Beyond the Inviddome" 8)


:lol: :lol:

SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:"You do realize that unless male DRAGONs can mate with Norma...the latter are going to die out in roughly one generation?"
"Well, either Aura can transform norma into DRAGONS or they start dimensionally raiding for men...."
"Either of which is very scary."
"...we can always route a shipload of Zentraedi to the Earth..."
"Even scarier..."


"What about Karno?"

"Why too scary to contemplate."

"Kyle, Wolf, Dixon!?!"

"Even Norma have SOME standards..."


:lol: Well, I think Wolf would have some chance there.

taalismn wrote:Ben's not all that bad, and his body is conveniently missing...
Come to think of it, there's an entire CITY that's conveniently missing...
Using the 'Millennium' caper, where you use disasters to collect people who were otherwise going to DIE, in order to use them as a genetic hedge against species extinction, it would be a good bet to snatch those folks who were supposed to be VAPORIZED, and transplant them where you need them. Toss in a few (disarmed) Zentraedi if you want to add extra exotic to the mix. Put them on the far side of the Earth, and that gives them some breathing room and calm-down time before the dragons start showing up and freaking them out.


:D I can go with that!
SRoss wrote:
taalismn wrote:Ben's not all that bad, and his body is conveniently missing...
Come to think of it, there's an entire CITY that's conveniently missing...
Using the 'Millennium' caper, where you use disasters to collect people who were otherwise going to DIE, in order to use them as a genetic hedge against species extinction, it would be a good bet to snatch those folks who were supposed to be VAPORIZED, and transplant them where you need them. Toss in a few (disarmed) Zentraedi if you want to add extra exotic to the mix. Put them on the far side of the Earth, and that gives them some breathing room and calm-down time before the dragons start showing up and freaking them out.


Corg: (Waking up naked, strapped to a table) "Agg! No! Wasn't Annie enough." :eek:

Maggy: "Who do you think sent you to us?" :twisted:


:lol: :lol:

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:13 am
by Alpha 11
taalismn wrote:Corg's only good for two things: Fertilizer and Calories(the latter if you don't mind meat that talks back).


:lol:

Kargan3033 wrote:
taalismn wrote:Corg's only good for two things: Fertilizer and Calories(the latter if you don't mind meat that talks back).


And a strange after taste.


:lol:

SRoss wrote:Come to think of it, where do dragon children come from? I mean even in dragon form, there's a huge size difference.


Ya, they are even way bigger then the female dragons.

taalismn wrote:
SRoss wrote:Come to think of it, where do dragon children come from? I mean even in dragon form, there's a huge size difference.


And is it live birth or egg?
In fact, Aura's exact gender is never made clear either. Maybe s/he's hermaphroditic.
There's a closing shot that apparently shows Vivian's father(massive, draconic form), but apparently the absence of any human males or even male children in the settlement suggests reproduction is done in dragon form.
For that matter, we don't see any smaller male dragons...either they're identical to the females when younger or they're cloistered away in the country after they're born/hatched , being taught the business of munching draconium pollutants by their fathers. Or maybe they're very small until they get their first gutfull of draconium residue and they balloon up into the big adult size.
There's also the matter of whether the dragon-humans have mating-at-will, or a seasonal heat period...Sala's remarks when she barges in on Ange and Tusk on the verge of inflagro delicti could be interpreted as either that dragons have sex for fun too, or, she's simply well-versed in the pre-Split human culture she's studied up on.


Ya, there are still some unanswered questions that I wish they did answer, like these.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:56 pm
by taalismn
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Good point and once the rest of the hive mind recovers from the expernce they are not going to be a bunch of happy campers to say the lest.


I believe Schlock: Mercenary had fun with that when Tagon discovered that the yard 'bots that had been bribed to hinder the reconditioning of their new ship had a group mind akin to the Cylons' Resurrection technology. Tagon then proceeded to shot drone units as a lesson in reward/punishment to the greater AI pool. The AI pool learned that maybe turning up the stimulus sensitivity on its drones was NOT a good idea...

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:00 pm
by taalismn
Alpha 11 wrote:[q

Ya, there are still some unanswered questions that I wish they did answer, like these.


Such as 'How much did Ange's parents know and what was their end-game for Ange the Norma? Or were they just idiots?
How did the Ancient Humans get ahold of a d-traveling submarine?
And how long before Chris has another psychotic break and has to be put down like a rabid dog?

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 8:07 pm
by Alpha 11
taalismn wrote:
Kargan3033 wrote:[

Good point and once the rest of the hive mind recovers from the expernce they are not going to be a bunch of happy campers to say the lest.


I believe Schlock: Mercenary had fun with that when Tagon discovered that the yard 'bots that had been bribed to hinder the reconditioning of their new ship had a group mind akin to the Cylons' Resurrection technology. Tagon then proceeded to shot drone units as a lesson in reward/punishment to the greater AI pool. The AI pool learned that maybe turning up the stimulus sensitivity on its drones was NOT a good idea...


:lol:

taalismn wrote:
Alpha 11 wrote:[q

Ya, there are still some unanswered questions that I wish they did answer, like these.


Such as 'How much did Ange's parents know and what was their end-game for Ange the Norma? Or were they just idiots?
How did the Ancient Humans get ahold of a d-traveling submarine?
And how long before Chris has another psychotic break and has to be put down like a rabid dog?


If there is a manga of this, some of them might get answered.

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:24 pm
by SRoss
Hel: "Well, Embryo. We've been waiting for you for a long time."

Embryo: :?

Hel: "I've prepared a special hell just for you." :demon:

There's a flash of light, and Embryo finds himself in a hut on a deserted island. The figure in the bed beside him stirs...

Minmei: :love: :demon: :love: "FINALLY! AFTER ALL THIS TIME! I GET A MAN, AND HE'S ALL MINE, FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER..." :love: :demon: :love:

Embryo: :eek: :eek: :eek: "AAAAAGGG!!!! QUICK! I NEED SOMETHING TO KILL MYSELF!!!" :eek: :eek: :eek:

Minmei: :lol: "Silly... This is Hel. You can't die here... Now rock my world!" :love:

Embryo: "You mean, I'm stuck here forever ... with you." :shock: :shock: :eek: :?

Re: Robotech Crossover question

Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:53 pm
by Alpha 11
SRoss wrote:Hel: "Well, Embryo. We've been waiting for you for a long time."

Embryo: :?

Hel: "I've prepared a special hell just for you." :demon:

There's a flash of light, and Embryo finds himself in a hut on a deserted island. The figure in the bed beside him stirs...

Minmei: :love: :demon: :love: "FINALLY! AFTER ALL THIS TIME! I GET A MAN, AND HE'S ALL MINE, FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER..." :love: :demon: :love:

Embryo: :eek: :eek: :eek: "AAAAAGGG!!!! QUICK! I NEED SOMETHING TO KILL MYSELF!!!" :eek: :eek:

Minmei: :lol: "Silly... This is Hel. You can't die here... Now rock my world!" :love:

Embryo: "You mean, I'm stuck here forever ... with you." :shock: :eek: :?


:lol: :lol: Well, she got a man, at least.