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Bursters
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:27 pm
by Mouser13
Just wondering how they power should work.
Mainly the super fuel flame.
1. Does it increase the damage. I would say no from the text but player thinks it does.
2. I think it increase a fire upto the 20area per level or x10 whichever is less.
Re: Bursters
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:01 am
by Killer Cyborg
Mouser13 wrote:Just wondering how they power should work.
Mainly the super fuel flame.
1. Does it increase the damage. I would say no from the text but player thinks it does.
2. I think it increase a fire upto the 20area per level or x10 whichever is less.
1. Of course it says that it increases the damage.
The books flat-out SAY that it increases the damage.
2. I've always taken the area affected to mean that was the maximum sized fire that could be affected.
This sort of thing has been discussed in previous threads:
viewtopic.php?p=443566#p443566Killer Cyborg wrote:Another thought occurs to me...
Say a first level burster creates a 20' area of fire that does 4d6 MD.
Then he uses Super Fuel Flame to make that fire into a 200' area fire that does 4d6x10 MD.
Can he boost the fire again?
I'd say no.
He can only affect a 20' area of flame, and the fire is now way larger than 20'... it's too big for him to control any longer.
Also, this large area is too large for him to psychically feed through his Fire Eruption ability. He can only affect a 20' area at first level, so even though Super Fuel Flame can make that fire get a whole lot bigger, it will go out again right away (although it may combust other things before it goes out).
What about a 15th level burster?
He could make a 40' area Fire Eruption that does 6d6 MD.
Then he could Super Fuel Flame on it so that it does 6d6x10 MD and covers a 400' area.
But the maximum area he can keep going with Fire Eruption is 90', so any fire past that 90' area would go out again.
Would that 90' fire that he kept going do 6d6x10 MD still?
I'd say no.
The damage of the fire is directly proportional to that of the size, and the size of the fire is no longer 10x that of the original fire.
The damage would either be 2x the original (12d6), or it would fall back to the listed damage under Fire Eruption as "40' or bigger" and go back to doing 6d6 MD.
Pretty powerful, but compare it to some of the things that other classes can do at 15th level.
viewtopic.php?p=320510#p320510Super-Fuel Flame IS cumulative... at least there is no evidence to the contrary.
But the scenario wouldn't work.
Here's why:
Main Book, p. 103
under Super Fuel Flame:
"Affects a 20' area per experience level."
So a buster could take a 20' area flame and boost it up to a 200', but since that new area is more than 20' large subsequent bursters couldn't increase the size of it...
...unless they were higher level...
A 15th level burster could affect a 300' area of flame and turn it into a 3000' area, which is pretty impressive, but still not quite 32,000,000'
Re: Bursters
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:53 pm
by Mouser13
Another question I have is how often does the fire to damage on each person attack or on burster attack. I don't see any time element or is one time. I assume that this is not the case.
Re: Bursters
Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:01 am
by Killer Cyborg
Mouser13 wrote:Another question I have is how often does the fire to damage on each person attack or on burster attack. I don't see any time element or is one time. I assume that this is not the case.
Each person's attack, or when they enter the fire.