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Torngesis wrote:My suggestion is all the classes in the main book when the games starts out, Then with each expansion you can add the additional books as expansions which would turn out a huge profit and years and years to come of gaming. Thats how Ever quest 1 was, I am a MMO hardcore player( over 13 years now) and I have been playing palladium games since you guys only had the main book palladium fantasy back in 1983 or 84 when it was just the book back as well my group called it. Rifts has such a enormous money in it. as long as you don't sell the wrights away you guys will have so much money it wouldn't be funny. Look at world of warcraft for instance they only had a stuff of 50 people for the first 3 years of that games existence and had 7 million players on a monthly subscription of 16 bucks each account that equals 112 million a month and the over head was crap. Honestly there trying to create there star craft in to an MMO and my suggestion is get Rifts going as fast as possible. main book core of the game and build from there stay within America for the first 8-12 months and have an expansion every 6 months after that. You can have groups 6-8 man ( hence to be like table top) do quest in Chitown or any where in America. Some minor things of course would be free like small expansions like if you add psyscape where Tolken is huge so that would be a toss up if you wanted to add some content and the rest a buy able expansion. If you want to even hire me as a consultant I'm up for it. I'm taking my BA in network administration/Server based and web design for creation of games Just started so it would take me a year to get all the skills I would need. I am serious about assisting in this venture.

Falconi wrote:Well, if you need advice or maybe a little code here and there I'll lend a hand, but I've been in the Biz and worked on an MMO Project and what you're talking about is the single most ambitious, difficult, expensive and complicated projects in game development.

In the words of Jason Hall (Now the CEO of Monolith) whom I had an opportunity to speak to at GDC 03, "You're going to have a lot of 'ComeTo Jesus' moments." What that means is that it's not going to be easy and there are going to be a lot of obstacles in your way. I commend your gusto - it reminds me of myself in many ways. But let me be honest and straightforward without trying to be a killjoy: Its a very naive assumption to believe that you can create an MMO, from scratch within four years without a team of professional developers and staff. Even licensing middleware, there is significant lead-in time required to get your team up to speed on the technology you're using. I'm not saying that it's impossible, just that it's gonna be a lot harder than you think.

That being said, again, if you need help - let me know and I'll do what I can to help you.

melanieshaman wrote:Never Happen..as stated before the balancing issue, too much "stuff" and well doesn't have the audience to keep an mmo going... i mean 3-500k players is a success, and are there really that many people that would pay $15 a month to play it?

Rifter6 wrote:

Falconi wrote:You speak the truth, Rifter!

I suppose there is room for both types of games to be sure - both with their play styles and target audience. Just like there is Classic Warcraft for the Real Time Strategy buffs, and World of Warcraft for the MMO. Two different games with two different play styles that cater to two different markets. That way you don't compete against yourself but you still are able to massively advertise your company and products.

Right on! well.. now that we've 'solved' the Rifts MMO vs. PC argument, what's there to argue about any more. We just killed this thread.

-Rifter6

AlexM wrote:Who has approached us and who have we turned down?





Alex Marciniszyn

websitelink wrote:CCP is about the only company right now I'd trust to pull it off.

AlexM wrote:Four years ago, we were approached by one company that expected us to foot the bill. Not what we're looking for. And similar.

To put that into context, we are sometimes contacted by people who cannot do the quality work we and our fans are looking for.




Alex Marciniszyn

Nomadic wrote:

AlexM wrote:Four years ago, we were approached by one company that expected us to foot the bill. Not what we're looking for. And similar.

To put that into context, we are sometimes contacted by people who cannot do the quality work we and our fans are looking for.




Alex Marciniszyn

Wait, found it. 5 years ago you were approached by a company(Icarus Studios LLC) that wanted to do a profit share, but you wanted insane amounts of money to release the IP. You wouldn't even sell it, you would lease it and the rate would change depending on how Palladium Felt any given year. So instead they made Fallen Earth.

"The game takes place in a post-apocalyptic wasteland located around the American Grand Canyon. Fallen Earth's gameplay features FPS/RPG hybridization, first-person/third person views, 19 equipment slots, hundreds of items including improvised equipment and weapons, a real-time crafting system, various skills and abilities, factions and tactical PvP, all existing within 1000 square kilometers of usable terrain based on real-world topographical maps of the area."

100,000 and counting. @ $14.95 a month man thats a lot of money.

MillionDollarHatGuy wrote:Wouldn't play it myself.


I like Pen and Paper RPGs because I am not bound by the barriers of the Programmers mind.

To each their own. The sadness I felt when I realized I couldn't slay small Horde children in WoW.