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argos wrote:yup, no dodge. ever try to dodge lightning?
up the issue by saying that nature was never aiming for me, I'm sure after half the jokes i've made i'm on the list of people to be struck down by a bolt of lightiningAjax wrote:Ok so I'm playing a Ley line walker in a rifts game currently. And I was going back through the books re-reading spells. And I happened upon Call Lightning, now I never really liked the spell do to it's flat range and fairly low damage until higher levels. But this time around I noticed it's saving throw discription, it reads as none. Not dodge at a penalty, not if you see it coming, but none. I'm certain this has been discussed ad nausem before, but have I finally had my eyes opened to the 'I hit you, I don't care what your bonuses are Mr. Juicer' spell?
Ajax wrote:Ok so I'm playing a Ley line walker in a rifts game currently. And I was going back through the books re-reading spells. And I happened upon Call Lightning, now I never really liked the spell do to it's flat range and fairly low damage until higher levels. But this time around I noticed it's saving throw discription, it reads as none. Not dodge at a penalty, not if you see it coming, but none. I'm certain this has been discussed ad nausem before, but have I finally had my eyes opened to the 'I hit you, I don't care what your bonuses are Mr. Juicer' spell?
.Killer Cyborg wrote:Ajax wrote:Ok so I'm playing a Ley line walker in a rifts game currently. And I was going back through the books re-reading spells. And I happened upon Call Lightning, now I never really liked the spell do to it's flat range and fairly low damage until higher levels. But this time around I noticed it's saving throw discription, it reads as none. Not dodge at a penalty, not if you see it coming, but none. I'm certain this has been discussed ad nausem before, but have I finally had my eyes opened to the 'I hit you, I don't care what your bonuses are Mr. Juicer' spell?
Yup.
Automatic hit from the sky.
Mark Hall wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:Ajax wrote:Ok so I'm playing a Ley line walker in a rifts game currently. And I was going back through the books re-reading spells. And I happened upon Call Lightning, now I never really liked the spell do to it's flat range and fairly low damage until higher levels. But this time around I noticed it's saving throw discription, it reads as none. Not dodge at a penalty, not if you see it coming, but none. I'm certain this has been discussed ad nausem before, but have I finally had my eyes opened to the 'I hit you, I don't care what your bonuses are Mr. Juicer' spell?
Yup.
Automatic hit from the sky.
Which, if it required it to be from the sky, would be a good argument. I prefer the versions in PFRPG, which give a dodge number (a high one, but a dodge number).
AaronCE wrote:While on the Call Lightning angle.. I always wondered. Can you Call Lightning in an enclosed space? In a dungeon, cave, castle, building, underground? And yeah, I'm not talking something that the lightning could concievably penetrate. I've always wondered if you need "open sky" to Call Lightning.
Killer Cyborg wrote:AaronCE wrote:While on the Call Lightning angle.. I always wondered. Can you Call Lightning in an enclosed space? In a dungeon, cave, castle, building, underground? And yeah, I'm not talking something that the lightning could concievably penetrate. I've always wondered if you need "open sky" to Call Lightning.
IIRC, yes, you can.
Though I think that's kind of silly.
AaronCE wrote:While on the Call Lightning angle.. I always wondered. Can you Call Lightning in an enclosed space? In a dungeon, cave, castle, building, underground? And yeah, I'm not talking something that the lightning could conceivably penetrate. I've always wondered if you need "open sky" to Call Lightning.
Karsus wrote:Rogue_Scientist wrote:Killer Cyborg wrote:Ajax wrote:Ok so I'm playing a Ley line walker in a rifts game currently. And I was going back through the books re-reading spells. And I happened upon Call Lightning, now I never really liked the spell do to it's flat range and fairly low damage until higher levels. But this time around I noticed it's saving throw discription, it reads as none. Not dodge at a penalty, not if you see it coming, but none. I'm certain this has been discussed ad nausem before, but have I finally had my eyes opened to the 'I hit you, I don't care what your bonuses are Mr. Juicer' spell?
Yup.
Automatic hit from the sky.
Actually lightning bolts start at the earth and move up towards the sky. Weird, I know.
This.
J. Lionheart wrote:It has been stated officially somewhere around here that you don't have to be outdoors, or have access to outdoors, to use Call Lightning. The reply was something akin to "It's magic. It works."
Now it'll be hell to find that reference, but I'll look.