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Re: H.U. Juicers

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 12:23 am
by BillionSix
bob the desolate one wrote:ok admitedly i power game :D i likes it i can't stop but i try to stay cannon when i can :clown: so ok here goes
Can Supers get juiced?
If so does it hump with there powers?
I kinda know how i would run it But the input of other boardite GM's is precious to me :clown:


Do you realize that in Powers Unlimited 2 there are rules for a HU version of the Juicer under the Supersoldier options?

Brian

Re: H.U. Juicers

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 2:39 am
by Dog_O_War
bob the desolate one wrote:ok admitedly i power game :D i likes it i can't stop but i try to stay cannon when i can :clown: so ok here goes
Can Supers get juiced?

People with actual super-powers lose their super-powers when undergoing any type of augmentation.

bob the desolate one wrote:If so does it hump with there powers?
I kinda know how i would run it But the input of other boardite GM's is precious to me :clown:

If you want to power-game, take a human from Wormwood and Rift them to an H.U. setting. Proceed to select a physically-trained character OCC, then have that character rifted to Rifts Earth. Now, as far as I've read there is nothing that disqualifies an MDC being from undergoing Juicer augmentation other than bio-regeneration and OCC selection. Since the Juicer is a certain special OCC that allows humans, regardless of life-choices to undergo the process (re: it only requires you to be willing) - there is nothing preventing a naturally MDC human who doesn't regenerate from undergoing the augmentation process.

The reason you want to go to an H.U. setting before-hand though is for this reason; you don't lose your bonuses or hand-to-hand skill when changing your OCC in this manner. You do lose some of your skills, but that isn't going to matter when you get the following ability from the Physically Trained category;

PT's special Power Punch; as a power-punch normally works, but it affects both supernatural beings and creatures of magic as if it were a weapon normally effective against them.

Here's the only foreseeable downside; the GM will likely jack you on the SDC you gain. That is, a typical H.U. setting is SDC only, meaning that while on such a place you are considered human with SDC. There-for you can gain SDC. When you go back to an MDC setting though you'll be MDC again, but under no circumstances would a GM in their right mind allow SDC gained while in an SDC setting be translated to MDC (for your otherwise natural MDC body). This means that you'll be low on personal toughness, but you can still wear armour and you're still a force to be reckoned with, that has auto-dodge from both his H-to-H and his OCC.

If I were your GM, I wouldn't allow you to do this unless the whole campaign were based around such shinnanigans. Only in that case would you recieve a break, as you're likely to be the least worrisome character on the playing field.

Re: H.U. Juicers

Posted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 5:08 pm
by BillionSix
I have an idea! Instead of jumping through all those hoops, why don't you just give your character a single power called "Win"?

Then when the game starts, you can say, "I activate Win."
The GM says, "Good! You win this game of Heroes Unlimited."

Then everyone can go home. :)

Brian

Re: H.U. Juicers

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:41 am
by Dog_O_War
bob the desolate one wrote:Question :?: wheres your source for the loss of super powers during augmentation is it cannon or a house rule?
And secondly man good stuff on that work around :ok: thats some creative rifting :clown:

It's in both the HU book (as you can also become a cyborg in there, which mentions augmentations) and I believe that it also mentions it in the Conversions book.

Re: H.U. Juicers

Posted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:24 am
by Dog_O_War
It's definitely in HU pg. 101-102 under the Bionics heading. Look for the bolded portion labelled, "Important note" for the beginning of the blurb. Juicer conversion is severe enough to remove all psychic and magic from a player normally, it should otherwise be assumed then that it will have the most severe affect on a super-being, if not the next-most.

As for Conversions, I only remember reading it there as I otherwise do not own the book.