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Braska wrote:Q: Does anyone have specific rules regarding the use of TK (Super) to throw/manipulate PC's/NPC's? There is insufficient descripion imo to whether a character should be able to "fight" back against the psychic. My player has an 8th lvl Mind Melter and I am finding that his ISP pool is allowing him to throw very large objects as well as groups of NPC's and has become sort of a one man army.

Greetings and Salutations. There is an article written by Mark Hall (a Palladium Freelancer) that discusses Telekinesis and Ectoplasm in Rifter 44 on page 45. It mentions a saving throw and the reasoning behind it. That's the closest answer given in a book, but Rifter material isn't official (at least most aren't, and the article in particular isn't official). Though I do know people who liked it all the same.

Personally, in my games, I have (usually) ruled the Telekinesis can't be used on living beings. The description says "object" and I ruled people are not objects. The same as I don't let Teleport Object work on living beings. Abilities such as Levitation even say "object or person" (separating the two). My reasoning is that the aura of living beings is different than inanimate objects, and that telekinesis doesn't function on the living aura.

Also keep in mind if the player can do it then NPC can do it too. If ever facing an opponent with Telekinesis and a higher level, the NPC will win in range (so the player character mever gets a chance to use it). Usually when players argue they want an ability that can kill without a defense and that I gimp it otherwise, I point that out and most players don't like the thought of it being used back on their character. Those are just my experiences and thoughts though. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys.

Braska wrote:To add to my original post, I had been researching further options for a possible save or defense and found that within the text of TK(Super) it states that only metalic or objects with an MDC equivalent strength can do MD with a TK(Super) attack, yet it specifies that "people" can not to MD. This would lead me to believe that since palladium took the time to add this small detail that it is well within the limits of the power to be used to manipulate living beings. However this does not resolve my issue with how to properly handle the power in regards to abuse.

Also, does anyone have the passages within the Rifter? I have been unable to obtain a copy and no one seems to have that specific one.

Greetings and Salutations. I'll say I actually know of the quote from Rifts GM Guide and there are some quotes in R:UE that suggest it's possible on humans as well. I personally never cared for the ruling though (for a variety of reasons), and none of the references give any type of mechanic for using it on people (so it's an automatic success like on other objects?).

As for the passages, yes I do have them, but no I can't quote them. We're allowed to quote small passages here or there for one reason or another, but otherwise the board rule tends to be the person needs to buy the book. I'm usually not sure where exactly the board moderators draw that line, so I tend to play it on the safe side. Though if you can't find the book near you, I can provide you with a few links to places you could by it online.

From Palladium Books directly:
http://www.palladiumbooks.com/Merchant2 ... _Code=R100

From Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Rifts-RPG-The-Rif ... 010&sr=8-2

From Noble Knight Games:
http://www.nobleknight.com/ProductDetai ... GenreID_E_

If you don't like any of those places, hopefully you can do a small web search and I'm sure you'll find several other options as the book is still fairly new. Thank you for your time and patience, please have a nice day. Farewell and safe journeys for now.