How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
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How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Nothing fancy here, just the Question.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
I would plug the hives up with whipped cream. Whipped Cream is too heavy to fly in, too airy to float in, and the Xiticix breathe through their skin. They would all drown in the space of 24 hours, confused and unable to survive.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Biological Napalm from rogue mutating Xiticix Killers that come to infest the former Hivelands forming a strange, but not currently expanding, threat?
Or teams of brave adventurers sneak nukes into the heart of the hive and blow it sky high.
Mostly the second one, though the first makes an interesting idea to curveball the issue.
Or teams of brave adventurers sneak nukes into the heart of the hive and blow it sky high.
Mostly the second one, though the first makes an interesting idea to curveball the issue.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
keir451 wrote:Nothing fancy here, just the Question.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
...by shooting it.
With whatever gun you have handy.
Seriously, a lone Xitixic on a vast featureless plain isn't a giant problem. The only problem is they swarm.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Dust off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
The Xiticix hives have no defense against modern long range missiles.
The Xiticix hives have no defense against modern long range missiles.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
I haven't read the Xiticix sourcebook, so take this with a grain of salt.
Get a mage who can cast Astral Projection and Teleport Lesser.
--Have the mage scout the hive via Astral Projection, find the queen.
--Return to his body.
--Teleport 50 lbs worth of fusion blocks into the queen's chamber. (Three Type 3's less than 50 lbs, and inflicts a total of 12D6x10... average of 420 MD.)
--Repeat as needed.
With a range of 5 miles/level, a level 5 mage could do this from 25 miles away.
Get a mage who can cast Astral Projection and Teleport Lesser.
--Have the mage scout the hive via Astral Projection, find the queen.
--Return to his body.
--Teleport 50 lbs worth of fusion blocks into the queen's chamber. (Three Type 3's less than 50 lbs, and inflicts a total of 12D6x10... average of 420 MD.)
--Repeat as needed.
With a range of 5 miles/level, a level 5 mage could do this from 25 miles away.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Balabanto wrote:I would plug the hives up with whipped cream. Whipped Cream is too heavy to fly in, too airy to float in, and the Xiticix breathe through their skin. They would all drown in the space of 24 hours, confused and unable to survive.
It's not real Whipped Cream unless you use real whips to make it.
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Kudos to every on so far. Special mention to Laux, Jorel, Wooly and Mack.
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one at a time. with my bare hands.
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RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:one at a time. with my bare hands.
If you pulled THAT off you'd be set for life, AFTER you fought off every punk who would try to kill you to gain their reputation.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Orbital Bovine Bombardment.
3/4's of a tonne of grade A beef at meteoric velocity to a hive?
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3/4's of a tonne of grade A beef at meteoric velocity to a hive?
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Stick to the classics of extermination...
1) A big can of Raid
2) A big booot
3) A Giant fly swatter
4) a Army of giant venus fly traps
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
The "Egg Popper" robots from Triax 2 can be re-purposed to spray the egg chambers with Napalm P and ignite the entire place. That would severely wound a hive.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
I'm looking for suggestions for good Xiticix repellent.
Its not necessary to kill them though I'd like that better.
Zapper specialized in bug killing.
or
(Un)Natural Predators like giant birds and spiders.
Maybe some type of frequency to keep them at bay.
Keep them out of a radius of a few hundred feet to a mile or so.
Hope this isn't outta line with the OP.
Its not necessary to kill them though I'd like that better.
Zapper specialized in bug killing.
or
(Un)Natural Predators like giant birds and spiders.
Maybe some type of frequency to keep them at bay.
Keep them out of a radius of a few hundred feet to a mile or so.
Hope this isn't outta line with the OP.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Jorel wrote:I'm looking for suggestions for good Xiticix repellent.
Its not necessary to kill them though I'd like that better.
Zapper specialized in bug killing.
or
(Un)Natural Predators like giant birds and spiders.
Maybe some type of frequency to keep them at bay.
Keep them out of a radius of a few hundred feet to a mile or so.
Hope this isn't outta line with the OP.
i'm told by very reliable sources that dead xiticix are the kind most likely to leave you alone
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Holy BLEEP! Why didn't I think of that- It's brilliant!rat_bastard wrote:The "Egg Popper" robots from Triax 2 can be re-purposed to spray the egg chambers with Napalm P and ignite the entire place. That would severely wound a hive.
Kudos to the Ratmeister.
Just using the anti-egg bots in general would be a great tactic to adapt against the Xiticix. I feel bad for small animal life in the hivelands once they go swarming out to crush this enemy to the hive though.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Open rifts to an elemental plane of water and flood the hives. Drown them all.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Nuke um from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Shark_Force wrote:Jorel wrote:I'm looking for suggestions for good Xiticix repellent.
Its not necessary to kill them though I'd like that better.
Zapper specialized in bug killing.
or
(Un)Natural Predators like giant birds and spiders.
Maybe some type of frequency to keep them at bay.
Keep them out of a radius of a few hundred feet to a mile or so.
Hope this isn't outta line with the OP.
i'm told by very reliable sources that dead xiticix are the kind most likely to leave you alone
I kinda remember that if you smeared yourself w/ Xiticix guts/fluids they left you alone because you smell like one of them.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
johnkretzer wrote:4) a Army of giant venus fly traps
I'll take that a step further and pay my shifter buddy to bring a couple dozen Splicer dimension venus flytrap/frog/alien hybrid war mounts back from his next trip. When he delivers the goods we'll hire wired slingers to ride them into the hives and eat their way to the queen.
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Armorlord wrote:Holy BLEEP! Why didn't I think of that- It's brilliant!rat_bastard wrote:The "Egg Popper" robots from Triax 2 can be re-purposed to spray the egg chambers with Napalm P and ignite the entire place. That would severely wound a hive.
Kudos to the Ratmeister.
Just using the anti-egg bots in general would be a great tactic to adapt against the Xiticix. I feel bad for small animal life in the hivelands once they go swarming out to crush this enemy to the hive though.
i doubt there's much small animal life around a xiticix hive anyways. the xiticix actually pretty much destroy the natural ecosystems of the area over time, in a way that is remarkably similar to what humans do, as i recall.
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Zerebus wrote:In a thread a while back I suggested that a handful of high level Earth warlocks could summon elementals to wreck absolute havoc to a subterranean hive.
Yep, Earth Elementals attacking from below would be devastating.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
keir451 wrote:Nothing fancy here, just the Question.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
Water..
Flood them out...
Earth is covered in 78% water .. Easiest way..
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Lenwen wrote:keir451 wrote:Nothing fancy here, just the Question.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
Water..
Flood them out...
Earth is covered in 78% water .. Easiest way..
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
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rat_bastard wrote:Lenwen wrote:keir451 wrote:Nothing fancy here, just the Question.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
Water..
Flood them out...
Earth is covered in 78% water .. Easiest way..
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
yeah lenwen. don't be silly.
by composition, there's a *lot* more molten iron and nickel, and even more molten rock, on this planet than there is water. so clearly the *easiest* way is to simply dump massive quantities of molten rock, iron, and nickel on them until they die.
(or, to put it another way: yes, there's enough water on the earth to flood the xiticix and drown them... provided the area is somehow enclosed, which would most likely be close enough to impossible to not matter, and also provided the xiticix don't fly over it, and that they don't break the enclosure, and that the xiticix can't swim, and that their eggs will be killed by the water, and that you somehow manage to even get all that water into position... but that's an awful lot of rather far-fetched assumptions to make. the sheer logistics of getting enough water into the area to drown the xiticix without them responding is truly mind-boggling)
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Wooly wrote:Dust off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
The Xiticix hives have no defense against modern long range missiles.
Sure they do. Missile coming it a bunch of the swarm sacrifice them self as a bug shield.
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Cracked.coms 6 New Weapons That You Literally Cannot Hide From wrote:Kinetic Fireball Incendiaries
If someone told you that "rocket powered flaming rubber balls" were on the enemy's list of **** they were going to try and kill you with, you might be in danger of throwing out your back from all the maniacal laughter that would ensue. Kinetic Fireball Incendiaries are just that, though, and while the concept sounds retarded, the reality is about as close as the real world will ever get to being directed by Roland Emmerich.
The idea is to launch lots of hollow balls of rubberized rocket fuel with a hole in one side, and light them on fire.. They become rocket-powered fireballs that bounce around inside the building, killing everything near them in the most cartoonish yet horrifying way possible.
The thing is, the flaming balls don't actually have to hit you. The concept works something like a martini shaker; the reason the shaker cools your delicious drink faster than simply mixing in ice cubes is because they move around the liquid inside, cooling a higher volume in a much shorter time. With the KFI, you get essentially the same thing, except the ice cubes are flaming balls that raise the ambient air temperature to over 1000 degrees in seconds, not to mention knocking down doors and spreading the same horror throughout the building.
But this is some weird-ass DARPA project that will probably never move beyond the inventor's brain, right? Nope, published documents show that they have been tested, successfully. Is there a word for the emotion you feel when something is really really cool and really really horrible at the same time? If not, we need to invent it soon.
Now Imagine, some CS robot techs take a look at the schematics of the "Egg Popper" drones and decide that while that is all well and good they need a cheap efficient method of killing Xitixix. So they design the CS "Bug cooker" drone that look something like a golf ball sized skull with 6 bony legs that are designed to climb inside a hive and go sufficiently deep inside so they can all await the kill signal. Once the kill signal is delivered thousands of drones crack open their skulls and ignite rubberized MDC napalm balls which shoot around inside the the hive, burning everything.
Nits die, larva die, eggs die, warriors, nannies, workers and queens have their sensory organs burned off and the mold that grows throughout the hive that feeds the colony is incinerated. Then wave two marches in, Custom designed 4 armed skelebots made for climbing and leaping march into the hive, two arms are barbed climbing hands and two are weapons, plasma flamers for filling entire tunnels with killing flame and a pulse laser for precision killing. Their enemies are blind, their antennas are charred off, their scent organs are clogged with the overwhelming stink of dead bugs and ash and tireless merciless death is marching through to them killing bugs en mass.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Shark_Force wrote:rat_bastard wrote:Lenwen wrote:keir451 wrote:Nothing fancy here, just the Question.
How would YOU the GM's & Gamers of Rfits, kill the Xiticix? Be as verbose or as simple as you want.
Water..
Flood them out...
Earth is covered in 78% water .. Easiest way..
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
yeah lenwen. don't be silly.
by composition, there's a *lot* more molten iron and nickel, and even more molten rock, on this planet than there is water. so clearly the *easiest* way is to simply dump massive quantities of molten rock, iron, and nickel on them until they die.
(or, to put it another way: yes, there's enough water on the earth to flood the xiticix and drown them... provided the area is somehow enclosed, which would most likely be close enough to impossible to not matter, and also provided the xiticix don't fly over it, and that they don't break the enclosure, and that the xiticix can't swim, and that their eggs will be killed by the water, and that you somehow manage to even get all that water into position... but that's an awful lot of rather far-fetched assumptions to make. the sheer logistics of getting enough water into the area to drown the xiticix without them responding is truly mind-boggling)
Hopefully they aren't like some earth insects capable of living in water for several days. Earth elemental making a tunnel under a hive down through the crust... I don't know if that would create an eruption or not but a Earth Warlock should know that.
Why hasn't anyone suggested Fire elementals? They are completely unaffected by any of the bugs' weapons. They can stroll in and attack at leisure. The only problem is that I'm sure the queen, the nannies and the eggs would make it out with so much advanced warning.
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Zer0 Kay wrote:Wooly wrote:Dust off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
The Xiticix hives have no defense against modern long range missiles.
Sure they do. Missile coming it a bunch of the swarm sacrifice them self as a bug shield.
Not to mention the economics of using that quantity of long range missiles make it unrealistic, the bugs have the ability to hide in free deep underground bunkers and seers to warn them when to do it, while frag LRMs are definitely part of the recipe they are not the main ingredient.
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rat_bastard wrote:Cracked.coms 6 New Weapons That You Literally Cannot Hide From wrote:Kinetic Fireball Incendiaries
If someone told you that "rocket powered flaming rubber balls" were on the enemy's list of **** they were going to try and kill you with, you might be in danger of throwing out your back from all the maniacal laughter that would ensue. Kinetic Fireball Incendiaries are just that, though, and while the concept sounds retarded, the reality is about as close as the real world will ever get to being directed by Roland Emmerich.
The idea is to launch lots of hollow balls of rubberized rocket fuel with a hole in one side, and light them on fire.. They become rocket-powered fireballs that bounce around inside the building, killing everything near them in the most cartoonish yet horrifying way possible.
The thing is, the flaming balls don't actually have to hit you. The concept works something like a martini shaker; the reason the shaker cools your delicious drink faster than simply mixing in ice cubes is because they move around the liquid inside, cooling a higher volume in a much shorter time. With the KFI, you get essentially the same thing, except the ice cubes are flaming balls that raise the ambient air temperature to over 1000 degrees in seconds, not to mention knocking down doors and spreading the same horror throughout the building.
But this is some weird-ass DARPA project that will probably never move beyond the inventor's brain, right? Nope, published documents show that they have been tested, successfully. Is there a word for the emotion you feel when something is really really cool and really really horrible at the same time? If not, we need to invent it soon.
Now Imagine, some CS robot techs take a look at the schematics of the "Egg Popper" drones and decide that while that is all well and good they need a cheap efficient method of killing Xitixix. So they design the CS "Bug cooker" drone that look something like a golf ball sized skull with 6 bony legs that are designed to climb inside a hive and go sufficiently deep inside so they can all await the kill signal. Once the kill signal is delivered thousands of drones crack open their skulls and ignite rubberized MDC napalm balls which shoot around inside the the hive, burning everything.
Nits die, larva die, eggs die, warriors, nannies, workers and queens have their sensory organs burned off and the mold that grows throughout the hive that feeds the colony is incinerated. Then wave two marches in, Custom designed 4 armed skelebots made for climbing and leaping march into the hive, two arms are barbed climbing hands and two are weapons, plasma flamers for filling entire tunnels with killing flame and a pulse laser for precision killing. Their enemies are blind, their antennas are charred off, their scent organs are clogged with the overwhelming stink of dead bugs and ash and tireless merciless death is marching through to them killing bugs en mass.
Lets skip that and go a little more subtle. Microwaves! Anyone who's worked on a NEXRAD will know that all the CS needs to do is build a few modified NEXRAD radars around the hives. Modified so they can aim or just scan a given area continually cooking things. Its amazing how many dead birds and bugs their are around a NEXRAD.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
I, personally, love the kinetic kill weapon (aka Rod from God) fired from a bout L5 (Lagrange 5) right into the midst, sinking it low enough to flood the lowest of warrens and drown them all.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
jhwrench wrote:rat_bastard wrote:The "Egg Popper" robots from Triax 2 can be re-purposed to spray the egg chambers with Napalm P and ignite the entire place. That would severely wound a hive.
Thats the best idea ever!
Modified "Egg Poppers" that inject the eggs with nano bots that implant themselves in the growing larvas brains (making the Popers reusable, just refill them with nanites). Then you set up a Electric fence that activates the implanted nanites killing the Bug when thay cross it. You keep the bugs coraled without having to kill them all (our group loves bug weapons and would hate to loose a chance to get more). Great idea to pitch to Lazlo, they could teleport the Poppers in as well as the occasional nanite refill station.
Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Shark_Force wrote:by composition, there's a *lot* more molten iron and nickel, and even more molten rock, on this planet than there is water. so clearly the *easiest* way is to simply dump massive quantities of molten rock, iron, and nickel on them until they die.
Not talking about "IN" the earth .. I am talking about "ON" the Earth, since you want to get technical ..
Shark_Force wrote:yes, there's enough water on the earth to flood the xiticix and drown them... provided the area is somehow enclosed
Wrong, the main parts of the Hive's are underground.. The Hives are already sealed .. from the water tables outside of the hives .. If you want to flood the hives its as easy as getting enough water to where you want it to be. Logisitical nightmare for a tech based sociaty to be sure .. but still a very real possability ..
So technically .. the hives are already sealed for the flood due to being dry from the current water tables at their current depth ..
Shark_Force wrote:but that's an awful lot of rather far-fetched assumptions to make.
The Xit's breath .. aka they can drown .. perhaps the eggs wont drown till after they have hatched, (certainly a possability) but they would be utterly crushed being down that far underwater .. ever 30ft of water and you double the Atmosphere pressure .. aka you double the amount of PSI in the given chamber ..
Taking into account the Towers can be up to 1500ft high, and the underground tunnel systems are literally dozens of times deeper then the towers are tall.. with 1500ft, alone of water pressure .. those eggs would be dead as it is .
Now take 1500 and times it by at LEAST 5-10x for the towers being 5-10x smaller then the Hive is deep, and you can literally see not only could you drown most of the Xit, but you would crush any and all who could not escape ..
Thank you for your time, Was a fun lil debate.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Lenwen wrote:Shark_Force wrote:by composition, there's a *lot* more molten iron and nickel, and even more molten rock, on this planet than there is water. so clearly the *easiest* way is to simply dump massive quantities of molten rock, iron, and nickel on them until they die.
Not talking about "IN" the earth .. I am talking about "ON" the Earth, since you want to get technical ..Shark_Force wrote:yes, there's enough water on the earth to flood the xiticix and drown them... provided the area is somehow enclosed
Wrong, the main parts of the Hive's are underground.. The Hives are already sealed .. from the water tables outside of the hives .. If you want to flood the hives its as easy as getting enough water to where you want it to be. Logisitical nightmare for a tech based sociaty to be sure .. but still a very real possability ..
So technically .. the hives are already sealed for the flood due to being dry from the current water tables at their current depth ..Shark_Force wrote:but that's an awful lot of rather far-fetched assumptions to make.
The Xit's breath .. aka they can drown .. perhaps the eggs wont drown till after they have hatched, (certainly a possability) but they would be utterly crushed being down that far underwater .. ever 30ft of water and you double the Atmosphere pressure .. aka you double the amount of PSI in the given chamber ..
Taking into account the Towers can be up to 1500ft high, and the underground tunnel systems are literally dozens of times deeper then the towers are tall.. with 1500ft, alone of water pressure .. those eggs would be dead as it is .
Now take 1500 and times it by at LEAST 5-10x for the towers being 5-10x smaller then the Hive is deep, and you can literally see not only could you drown most of the Xit, but you would crush any and all who could not escape ..
Thank you for your time, Was a fun lil debate.
ok, you completely missed my point, which is that the simple act of transporting the obscenely large quantities of water makes the idea that this is the easiest way to do anything laughable. yes, water is plentiful. so are many other things. that doesn't mean that it's a trivial task to just pick up an ocean and drop it on the xiticix.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Shark_Force wrote:Lenwen wrote:Shark_Force wrote:by composition, there's a *lot* more molten iron and nickel, and even more molten rock, on this planet than there is water. so clearly the *easiest* way is to simply dump massive quantities of molten rock, iron, and nickel on them until they die.
Not talking about "IN" the earth .. I am talking about "ON" the Earth, since you want to get technical ..Shark_Force wrote:yes, there's enough water on the earth to flood the xiticix and drown them... provided the area is somehow enclosed
Wrong, the main parts of the Hive's are underground.. The Hives are already sealed .. from the water tables outside of the hives .. If you want to flood the hives its as easy as getting enough water to where you want it to be. Logisitical nightmare for a tech based sociaty to be sure .. but still a very real possability ..
So technically .. the hives are already sealed for the flood due to being dry from the current water tables at their current depth ..Shark_Force wrote:but that's an awful lot of rather far-fetched assumptions to make.
The Xit's breath .. aka they can drown .. perhaps the eggs wont drown till after they have hatched, (certainly a possability) but they would be utterly crushed being down that far underwater .. ever 30ft of water and you double the Atmosphere pressure .. aka you double the amount of PSI in the given chamber ..
Taking into account the Towers can be up to 1500ft high, and the underground tunnel systems are literally dozens of times deeper then the towers are tall.. with 1500ft, alone of water pressure .. those eggs would be dead as it is .
Now take 1500 and times it by at LEAST 5-10x for the towers being 5-10x smaller then the Hive is deep, and you can literally see not only could you drown most of the Xit, but you would crush any and all who could not escape ..
Thank you for your time, Was a fun lil debate.
ok, you completely missed my point, which is that the simple act of transporting the obscenely large quantities of water makes the idea that this is the easiest way to do anything laughable. yes, water is plentiful. so are many other things. that doesn't mean that it's a trivial task to just pick up an ocean and drop it on the xiticix.
Not to mention Xitixix hives are like termite mounds-they have natural drainage systems built in, and they have supernatural endurance which means it takes a long time for them to drown. So not only do you have to transport lakes of water to a system designed to at least partially deal with it in hostile territory but you have to deal with the fact that most of the people you are trying to drown can deal with water for quite some time.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
MillionDollarHatGuy wrote:Not sure how this would work.
Couldn't you flood the tunnel system, and then run an electrical current through it?
once again, how are you getting that much water in the tunnel systems?
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
MillionDollarHatGuy wrote:No idea. Im just curious if my idea would even work.
I prefer the shoot and scoot method myself.
depending on the voltage, one would assume that you could electrocute multiple xits and possibly drown a few. But the logistics of a plan are somewhat hazy.
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Get a bunch of Water Warlocks to open a series of Rifts to the Elemental Plane of Water over the Xiticix hives.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Shark_Force wrote:Lenwen wrote:Shark_Force wrote:by composition, there's a *lot* more molten iron and nickel, and even more molten rock, on this planet than there is water. so clearly the *easiest* way is to simply dump massive quantities of molten rock, iron, and nickel on them until they die.
Not talking about "IN" the earth .. I am talking about "ON" the Earth, since you want to get technical ..Shark_Force wrote:yes, there's enough water on the earth to flood the xiticix and drown them... provided the area is somehow enclosed
Wrong, the main parts of the Hive's are underground.. The Hives are already sealed .. from the water tables outside of the hives .. If you want to flood the hives its as easy as getting enough water to where you want it to be. Logisitical nightmare for a tech based sociaty to be sure .. but still a very real possability ..
So technically .. the hives are already sealed for the flood due to being dry from the current water tables at their current depth ..Shark_Force wrote:but that's an awful lot of rather far-fetched assumptions to make.
The Xit's breath .. aka they can drown .. perhaps the eggs wont drown till after they have hatched, (certainly a possability) but they would be utterly crushed being down that far underwater .. ever 30ft of water and you double the Atmosphere pressure .. aka you double the amount of PSI in the given chamber ..
Taking into account the Towers can be up to 1500ft high, and the underground tunnel systems are literally dozens of times deeper then the towers are tall.. with 1500ft, alone of water pressure .. those eggs would be dead as it is .
Now take 1500 and times it by at LEAST 5-10x for the towers being 5-10x smaller then the Hive is deep, and you can literally see not only could you drown most of the Xit, but you would crush any and all who could not escape ..
Thank you for your time, Was a fun lil debate.
ok, you completely missed my point, which is that the simple act of transporting the obscenely large quantities of water makes the idea that this is the easiest way to do anything laughable. yes, water is plentiful. so are many other things. that doesn't mean that it's a trivial task to just pick up an ocean and drop it on the xiticix.
Perhaps you could show me where I said it would be trivial ?
Or are you trying to argue something that was never stated ?
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Start a new franchise...KFX...Kentucky-Fried Xiticix...I pay whoever of you comes up with a solution that nets me the most usable meat, plus anybody who brings in their own fresh(killed) Xiticix gets 75% off on the preparation(and I'll throw in the large drink and side dish for free).
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
keir451 wrote:I, personally, love the kinetic kill weapon (aka Rod from God) fired from a bout L5 (Lagrange 5) right into the midst, sinking it low enough to flood the lowest of warrens and drown them all.
Uh... what would the point of firing it from that far off be? L5 is if the Sun is "North" of the Earth... to the Suns West. It is almost in or if you want to do it by seasons if the Earth were in Summer L5 is about where the Earth was when it was Spring. You get the max velocity without the rod burning up in the atmosphere by dropping it from orbit. Firing it from L5 would most likely miss all together because of the distance and time that it would travel. If you HAVE to use an L point then use 1 or 2.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
taalismn wrote:Start a new franchise...KFX...Kentucky-Fried Xiticix...I pay whoever of you comes up with a solution that nets me the most usable meat, plus anybody who brings in their own fresh(killed) Xiticix gets 75% off on the preparation(and I'll throw in the large drink and side dish for free).
Come on now they're bugs everyone knows that it would be more like sea food like Red Xiticix, Joe's Xiticix Shack, Long John Prosek's, Captain X's Hivefood, and of course
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
keir451 wrote:Get a bunch of Water Warlocks to open a series of Rifts to the Elemental Plane of Water over the Xiticix hives.
pretty sure in rifts underseas it mentions that underwater rifts don't have massive quantities of water come through. (it could be in another book, but i'm pretty sure there is an explicit mention of this somewhere)
Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Shark_Force wrote:keir451 wrote:Get a bunch of Water Warlocks to open a series of Rifts to the Elemental Plane of Water over the Xiticix hives.
pretty sure in rifts underseas it mentions that underwater rifts don't have massive quantities of water come through. (it could be in another book, but i'm pretty sure there is an explicit mention of this somewhere)
Tho generally speaking this is true ..
There are Rifts that in fact do .. mix atmosphere's as well as dimensions .. threw out Rifts Earth ..
1 - Vampire Kingdomes
2 - China ..
So it is in fact a "Possibility" to actually Open a Rift .. and mix both Atmosphere's to drown the Xit's ..
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hmm... the problem with using those as a precedent is that they are crazy dimensional hotspots. the entire yucatan peninsula is one big mixed-up blur of different dimensions, and china is pretty messed up too. in both cases, they're pretty clearly not typical examples. i suppose you *could* potentially devise a new spell to do it, but it probably would have to be a spell of legend to pull it off on the kind of scale you're talking about. plus, devising a new spell to do that is, in and of itself, going to be extremely time-consuming (the only rules i know of are in nightbane book... three, i think it is? through the glass, darkly, in any case)
and as far as when you said it would be 'trivial', well, you indicated this was the easiest thing to do. considering some of the suggestions have been extremely easy (like the egg-killer 'bots, which require nothing more than tweaking already-existing technology a bit), the only conclusion is that you meant your solution is easier than those extremely easy solutions. and what do you call something that is easier than easy? well, i suppose you could call it a lot of things. the word trivial could quite easily apply.
and as far as when you said it would be 'trivial', well, you indicated this was the easiest thing to do. considering some of the suggestions have been extremely easy (like the egg-killer 'bots, which require nothing more than tweaking already-existing technology a bit), the only conclusion is that you meant your solution is easier than those extremely easy solutions. and what do you call something that is easier than easy? well, i suppose you could call it a lot of things. the word trivial could quite easily apply.
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
keir451 wrote:Get a bunch of Water Warlocks to open a series of Rifts to the Elemental Plane of Water over the Xiticix hives.
How does a Water Warlock open a rift?
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Zer0 Kay wrote:taalismn wrote:Start a new franchise...KFX...Kentucky-Fried Xiticix...I pay whoever of you comes up with a solution that nets me the most usable meat, plus anybody who brings in their own fresh(killed) Xiticix gets 75% off on the preparation(and I'll throw in the large drink and side dish for free).
Come on now they're bugs everyone knows that it would be more like sea food like Red Xiticix, Joe's Xiticix Shack, Long John Prosek's, Captain X's Hivefood, and of courseSpoiler:
I can see we're going to have a run on lemon wedges....
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
This wouldn't be the easiest way, to be sure, but chemical warfare seems to be the best way. The trick is finding a poison or biological agent that kills 100% of Xiticix, or makes those that survive, steril. I don't remember the Rifter it was in, but there is an article on the CS Biowarfare, and it briefly discussed the idea of chemical warefare. Again, not simple, but could be done.
If some bio-agent could be discovered or invented it could be administered on some scouts who take it back to thier respective hives, and spread it like a desiese. No lose of human (or d-bee) life nessisary.... except for the Xiticix...
If some bio-agent could be discovered or invented it could be administered on some scouts who take it back to thier respective hives, and spread it like a desiese. No lose of human (or d-bee) life nessisary.... except for the Xiticix...
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Re: How would YOU kill the Xiticix?
Hystrix wrote:This wouldn't be the easiest way, to be sure, but chemical warfare seems to be the best way. The trick is finding a poison or biological agent that kills 100% of Xiticix, or makes those that survive, steril. I don't remember the Rifter it was in, but there is an article on the CS Biowarfare, and it briefly discussed the idea of chemical warefare. Again, not simple, but could be done.
If some bio-agent could be discovered or invented it could be administered on some scouts who take it back to thier respective hives, and spread it like a desiese. No lose of human (or d-bee) life nessisary.... except for the Xiticix...
Awesome suggestion. Do you know what Rifter that is in?
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